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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 11:07:16 GMT -8
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Post by dshawfan on Jul 23, 2010 12:26:52 GMT -8
Have not seen Christian, but have seen Tanner Rust. Man I hope we are not "fairly evenly matched."
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 23, 2010 13:50:33 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2010 14:00:21 GMT -8
This is a pillow match in historic terms... Sure was last year.
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Post by panammaniac on Jul 23, 2010 14:08:50 GMT -8
Hello,
Some of you may remember me as SoCal Aggie on the old board...
I have not personally seen Matt Christian play, but from what I have heard he may or may not end up winning the starting job. Jeff Fleming, who started against SDSU last year, is the incumbent. He was less than impressive last year as you saw in San Diego, but he also didn't have any reliable WR's to throw to. Tanner Rust was once considered the next up and coming QB at NMSU but he didn't get that many snaps in spring practice. We have yet another QB, Andrew Manley, who is the subject of a lot of talk in NM. He's a true freshman so he didn't participate in spring practice. Depending on how much you believe the hype, some people expect him to show up next month and contend for the starting job. It's expected to be a 3-man race or even a 4-man race right up until the season opener.
Personally, I expect to see Christian starting for at least the first couple games. From what I heard, he wasn't necessarily lighting it up in spring practice, but neither was anybody else, and with a more solid corps of receivers they all looked better than anything we had last year.
This matchup in Las Cruces should be a better game than last year. Both squads have made improvements. NMSU is headed in the right direction but is still a couple years away from being consistently competitive.
Are any of you making the road trip? I'd be glad to offer tips as to where to stay and eat, things to see, etc.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 23, 2010 15:32:51 GMT -8
Are any of you making the road trip? I'd be glad to offer tips as to where to stay and eat, things to see, etc. I'm flying in that morning, leaving the next morning, so it's mainly about the game. For anybody else who might be attending, I'll be wearing my Aztec road gear if we should cross paths for a beer. panammaniac, I do plan on hitting one of the casinos I pulled up after the game, (l love the Indian gaming). Can you tell me anything about Fort Sill Apache Casino? Don't look for much when I'm on the road, but can you tell me if it is a decent property? Any other casinos in the area that I'm not aware of? Thanks for any feedback and maybe I'll see you at the game.
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Post by panammaniac on Jul 23, 2010 20:25:16 GMT -8
Are any of you making the road trip? I'd be glad to offer tips as to where to stay and eat, things to see, etc. panammaniac, I do plan on hitting one of the casinos I pulled up after the game, (l love the Indian gaming). Can you tell me anything about Fort Sill Apache Casino? Don't look for much when I'm on the road, but can you tell me if it is a decent property? Any other casinos in the area that I'm not aware of? Thanks for any feedback and maybe I'll see you at the game. Hmm, I'm actually not aware of any Indian gaming in the area. I remember reading something last year about the Ft. Sill Apaches (who are an Oklahoma tribe, not NM) wanting to open a casino somewhere in Southern NM and there was some kind of legal flak over it, but I don't know where that stands. When I was in school at NMSU you never heard anything about casinos in the area (I'm actually a San Diego native who happened to go to NMSU, and now I live in the L.A. area). One thing about Las Cruces is you don't want to miss the local Mexican food. You can get some of the best Mexican food on the planet there, but the best places are local dives that you would never think about stopping in to eat unless a local sent you there.
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Post by ron on Jul 24, 2010 3:46:04 GMT -8
If you were the fan of another team and saw SDSU on your schedule you'd think it was a good chance for a win too. We have to prove otherwise.
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 24, 2010 9:06:19 GMT -8
panammaniac, I do plan on hitting one of the casinos I pulled up after the game, (l love the Indian gaming). Can you tell me anything about Fort Sill Apache Casino? Don't look for much when I'm on the road, but can you tell me if it is a decent property? Any other casinos in the area that I'm not aware of? Thanks for any feedback and maybe I'll see you at the game. One thing about Las Cruces is you don't want to miss the local Mexican food. You can get some of the best Mexican food on the planet there, but the best places are local dives that you would never think about stopping in to eat unless a local sent you there. As an Angelino with Latino roots I have a full appreciation for the "ma and pa" Mexican eateries, and local cuisine, (Tucson, Zona being one my favorites for eateries). Thank you for the tip sir, I'll be definitely adding that to my brief "to do" list. Who knows? Being gainfully unemployed, (AKA retired), I may decide to say longer and truly enjoy the experience. Thank you again panammaniac for your feedback. Be nice to see you or some fellow SDSU supporters at the game..
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2010 9:21:53 GMT -8
If you were the fan of another team and saw SDSU on your schedule you'd think it was a good chance for a win too. We have to prove otherwise. No disputing that, Ron. My point was merely that if our talent is truly no better than the school picked to finish no better than eighth in the WAC, there's no way in hell we're going to finish as high as fifth in the MWC as some are predicting. We may struggle, but I still say we win this one. Yeah, our road record since 2000 is a pathetic 14-47. However, we have no real hope of becoming a bowl eligible team again until we start turning that around. And considering that we will have a game under our belts whereas it's NMSU's opener (that's huge in my mind) and considering they will likely be bringing in a completely new QB to an offense which was itself pathetic last year in averaging 11.5 ppg, there's no better time to start turning that around than in Las Cruces this year.
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Jul 24, 2010 9:50:19 GMT -8
If you were the fan of another team and saw SDSU on your schedule you'd think it was a good chance for a win too. We have to prove otherwise. No disputing that, Ron. My point was merely that if our talent is truly no better than the school picked to finish no better than eighth in the WAC, there's no way in hell we're going to finish as high as fifth in the MWC as some are predicting. We may struggle, but I still say we win this one. Yeah, our road record since 2000 is a pathetic 14-47. However, we have no real hope of becoming a bowl eligible team again until we start turning that around. And considering that we will have a game under our belts whereas it's NMSU's opener (that's huge in my mind) and considering they will likely be bringing in a completely new QB to an offense which was itself pathetic last year in averaging 11.5 ppg, there's no better time to start turning that around than in Las Cruces this year. NMSU has a mess on their hands at the QB position and the Oline. They will struggle to score points. The only scored 21 Against Prarie View last season and it is not going to get better this year. Their defense will be improved, but not enough to overcome the other side of the ball. State, though not firing on all cylinders, is in better foundational shape than NMSU.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2010 10:03:04 GMT -8
NMSU has a mess on their hands at the QB position and the Oline. They will struggle to score points. The only scored 21 Against Prarie View last season and it is not going to get better this year. Their defense will be improved, but not enough to overcome the other side of the ball. State, though not firing on all cylinders, is in better foundational shape than NMSU. An Idaho fan visited NMSU's board to say how they are "on fire" in recruiting. Here's what he was talking about: newmexicostate.rivals.com/default.asp?SR=RivalsFPThe wide receiver, Mathews, seems like a very good get. Otherwise? I remember that the main reason some here wanted SDSU to hire DeWayne Walker was the opinion that he would be a mutha recruiter. Well, there's been an uptick at NMSU since he arrived (their true freshman QB from Hawaii was a great pickup, for example) but Walker isn't being the superstar some here said he would be had we hired him.
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Jul 24, 2010 12:03:00 GMT -8
I remember that the main reason some here wanted SDSU to hire DeWayne Walker was the opinion that he would be a mutha recruiter. Well, there's been an uptick at NMSU since he arrived (their true freshman QB from Hawaii was a great pickup, for example) but Walker isn't being the superstar some here said he would be had we hired him. It is very difficult to initially recruit to a place like NMS. Once you get the ball rolling, the kids will start recruiting their selves.
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Post by panammaniac on Jul 26, 2010 14:04:54 GMT -8
I remember that the main reason some here wanted SDSU to hire DeWayne Walker was the opinion that he would be a mutha recruiter. Well, there's been an uptick at NMSU since he arrived (their true freshman QB from Hawaii was a great pickup, for example) but Walker isn't being the superstar some here said he would be had we hired him. It is very difficult to initially recruit to a place like NMS. Once you get the ball rolling, the kids will start recruiting their selves. Walker is doing quite well for us and the NMSU community is more confident about the future than I've ever seen. Keep in mind that we're talking about 40+ years of football futility here, so the expectations are low. All the NMSU fans expect to see at this point is consistent year-over-year improvement, even if it doesn't necessarily translate into W's for the first couple years. I, for one, was very impressed with the team's demeanor on the sidelines and how they carried themselves over the course of the season even though they were noticeably overmatched almost every game. I think this team, and Coach Walker, will be just fine, but they're a year or perhaps two years away from anybody taking them seriously. As for the QB situation, I wouldn't call it a "mess." The talent is there, it's just raw and inexperienced. Keep in mind also we have a new OC this year who is bringing in an entirely different offensive scheme. Last year's OC was a last minute hire and wasn't the guy Walker really wanted. That's not to say that NMSU is suddently going to start putting points on the board, but I think this year's offense is a better fit for the personnel we have and will be a bit more capable of moving the ball than last year's.
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Post by panammaniac on Jul 26, 2010 14:20:15 GMT -8
One thing about Las Cruces is you don't want to miss the local Mexican food. You can get some of the best Mexican food on the planet there, but the best places are local dives that you would never think about stopping in to eat unless a local sent you there. As an Angelino with Latino roots I have a full appreciation for the "ma and pa" Mexican eateries, and local cuisine, (Tucson, Zona being one my favorites for eateries). Thank you for the tip sir, I'll be definitely adding that to my brief "to do" list. Who knows? Being gainfully unemployed, (AKA retired), I may decide to say longer and truly enjoy the experience. Thank you again panammaniac for your feedback. Be nice to see you or some fellow SDSU supporters at the game.. Unfortunately I won't be going. As an out-of-towner, the only game I make it back for every year is homecoming. I will list a few of the favorite local "don't miss" eateries here. Your hotel desk or any local can point you in the right direction. People are very friendly in Las Cruces so you won't have any problems. Nopalito's (5 minutes from Aggie stadium, so it's a great stop before the game). Their specialty is New Mexico style enchiladas. One of my local favorites. Chope's (a bit off the beaten path - 20 minutes or so from NMSU. Little hole in the wall type place in the middle of nowhere, but worth the effort). Outstanding chile rellenos. Roberto's - fast food style, but don't go there if you're really in a hurry (or for that matter any other restaurant in town. Things move in slow motion in LC as compared to California). The tacos and stuffed sopaipillas are great there. Si Senor - a little more upscale sit-down restaurant. Nellie's Cafe - another local mom and pop joint with outstanding Mexican food. Dick's Cafe - great Mexican food as well as burgers and other classics. La Posta - Not the best Mexican food in town, and locals tend to not eat there because there's better Mexican food available in town for less money. However, the chile rellenos are very good, and it's in kind of a cool settiing on an old historic plaza. It's in an old adobe stagecoach station where Billy the Kid was gunned down and General McArthur stayed a few times as a child. I would recommend it for a visitor looking for something a little out of the ordinary. Keep in mind that Las Cruces is not at all a late night town, so there won't be much open after the game. For something local that is open late, try Farley's - a cheesy sports bar type hangout, but they do have some pretty good local eats on the menu. There's also a Hooters in town now and a few other national chains, but don't expect a thriving nightlife after the game.
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Post by C-GAR on Jul 26, 2010 14:25:41 GMT -8
Anyone know if tickets for this game can be purchased via SDSU, or do I just buy online through NMSU?
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Post by panammaniac on Jul 26, 2010 14:34:38 GMT -8
Anyone know if tickets for this game can be purchased via SDSU, or do I just buy online through NMSU? You'll be able to buy tickets right at the gate. I'd expect that game to draw about 25,000 max. Aggie Memorial Stadium seats around 35,000 and it's an intimate facility, so there isn't really a bad seat in the house.
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Post by McQuervo on Jul 26, 2010 14:41:49 GMT -8
Our D will be solid- this should be a good indicator of how far Rocky has developed the scheme.
Unless Lindley is hurt, no contest.
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 26, 2010 14:47:25 GMT -8
How are they going to cover Vincent Brown?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2010 14:50:07 GMT -8
As for the QB situation, I wouldn't call it a "mess." The talent is there, it's just raw and inexperienced. Keep in mind also we have a new OC this year who is bringing in an entirely different offensive scheme. Last year's OC was a last minute hire and wasn't the guy Walker really wanted. That's not to say that NMSU is suddently going to start putting points on the board, but I think this year's offense is a better fit for the personnel we have and will be a bit more capable of moving the ball than last year's. Bringing in Dunbar should help since he has a solid background. However, I have to disagree about the QB situation. Here are Fleming and Walls' cumulative stats from a year ago: 133-266 for 1,141 yards for just 4.3 yards per attempt (Ryan Lindley averaged 7.0) and a TD to INT ratio of 6:17 (Lindley's was 23:16). No disrespect intended but that qualifies as a mess in my book.
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