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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2010 13:19:36 GMT -8
I also don't think ESPN is going to let the big east walk to the point it is feasible of us forming a partnership with them The need to play on other than Saturday has to be a consideration, however. This year, other than Syracuse - which ESPN obviously thinks is so bad nobody would want to watch them - everybody in the Big East will play two or three Wednesday through Friday games this year. To put it another way, the Big East is gradually getting pushed toward playing mid-week rather than Saturday. Along with getting every game on the tube and a lowball offer from ESPN for renewal, that's why the MWC left the Worldwide Leader. |
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Post by monty on Jul 20, 2010 13:29:21 GMT -8
I also don't think ESPN is going to let the big east walk to the point it is feasible of us forming a partnership with them The need to play on other than Saturday has to be a consideration, however. This year, other than Syracuse - which ESPN obviously thinks is so bad nobody would want to watch them - everybody in the Big East will play two or three Wednesday through Friday games this year. To put it another way, the Big East is gradually getting pushed toward playing mid-week rather than Saturday. Along with getting every game on the tube and a lowball offer from ESPN for renewal, that's why the MWC left the Worldwide Leader. the strange dynamic of having basically two leagues, it is interesting to see how negotiations go, such as this is what you are going to get, say a hundred mil for basketball and football and football plays when we damn well want you to. Now, if they have to clearly demarcate what is for bball (say 75 mil) and what is football (25 mil under this scenario), that might be enough for them to say, we will only take basketball and shop football around, if they got lowballed on football, then a partnership is feasible. Then maybe cbs or fox or nbc become options with a game of the week and a network with non-conf. crossover games and half and half conf. game of the weeks. |
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Post by sdsuaztecs on Jul 20, 2010 16:23:17 GMT -8
I much prefer adding Houston, Fresno and Nevada to the MWC than merging with South Florida, Connectciut, Syracuse, West Virginia, etc....
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Post by monty on Jul 20, 2010 17:07:54 GMT -8
I much prefer adding Houston, Fresno and Nevada to the MWC than merging with South Florida, Connectciut, Syracuse, West Virginia, etc.... I don't think there is any any option of a 17 team conference, but you could see either the very limited option of a playoff game between the two for a bcs bowl; and the slightly more likely option of a shared programming, joint network, and/or maybe a non-conf. game or two/ I'd rather stay at 9 then add those 3 |
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Post by hoobs on Jul 20, 2010 18:11:17 GMT -8
The benefit of a "joint" TV network for football is that you'd have the Big East football games starting at noon or 1pm Eastern Time... a mix of BE/MWC 4pm ET/1pm PT games, then 10pm ET/7pm PT games to offer a FULL slate morning to night. That's something that no other "conference" would be able to offer. And is absolutely vital from a network/programming/advertising/marketing perspective.
12 hours of live football every Saturday.
Think about it.
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Post by aztecgold on Jul 20, 2010 18:32:48 GMT -8
I kind of like it because I think the MWC would kick their butts. However, no way should the Big East get all the money. Boise State and TCU would have many more BCS bowl appearances.
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Post by newyorker2586 on Jul 20, 2010 22:19:21 GMT -8
i am St. John's alum and my feeling is that MWC-Big East combo would hurt my school but, from an economic standpoint makes a lot of sense. The feeling is football schools have been trying to leave the basketball only schools for a long time. If thats the case the basketball only schools would keep the name since The Cuse and Convicts are the only founding members that play football since the Big East was founded on Basketball. That being said you would have a pretty good balance of football and basketball. Pitt is a historic program. Pitt-WV is rivalry is pretty good. Cuse has been down since McNabb but, they have history Jim Brown/Ernie Davis. The other programs much newer to the scene but, have done ok. Uconn and USF only became Div 1A 10 years ago. Randy Edsall is one of best coaches in America and they gone to four or five bowls over the last 10 years more than the aztecs can say. USF has raided some of the best talent in Florida that would've gone to Miami and FSU. The last 5 years you can make the case that they are number 2 behind the Gators in the state. Also look at the places to hold a conference championship game the New Giants Stadium (the Jets can kiss my ass), Cowboy Stadium, Paul Brown Stadium, Heinz, the Murph, Raymond James. I would have the East add Temple. Who had a nice season last year going bowl game in 30 + years. The west would add Houston. Look at media markets (NYC) Syracuse and Rutgers (Philly)Temple ( Dallas-FT. Worth) TCU (LV) UNLV (Socal) SDSU, (Houston) Houston. The other schools are nice size markets. It would be perfect for a network. I use to work for SNY which is owned by the Wilpons and Comcast. Trust me during football season we aired tons of Rutgers, there is always footage and programming for university athletics.
For basketball, it only helps SDSU. I would keep the conference tourney in Vegas. Everyone goes to Vegas. I would move the league office there too.
If the non football schools from the east come too. I would have the west add some non football schools (Gonzaga, St. Mary's, Dayton, Seattle, Loyola Marymount) so the take is even. For football its amazing and for basketball it's a BEAST. Your alternate between the Garden and Thomas Mack for Conference tourney.
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