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Post by Bob Forsythe on Apr 19, 2011 16:30:06 GMT -8
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 19, 2011 17:15:35 GMT -8
Read the details and I agree with her. She will sign a bill that just requires a legit birth certificate.
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Post by uwaztec on Apr 19, 2011 18:15:14 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!!  |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Apr 20, 2011 8:18:05 GMT -8
Read the details and I agree with her. She will sign a bill that just requires a legit birth certificate. The birth certificate which has already been produced IS a legal document issued by the State of Hawaii. It must be recgonized as such by every other state in the union. Case Closed. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Apr 20, 2011 8:31:31 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!! Being by nature a far right winger on occasion (even though I mostly post as a liberal on here), I would not care if somebody else was packing. Self defense is a private and individual issue that the government has no right to meddle in. Now, as a liberal poster, I would report my suspicions to the campus police in a minute and hope they quickly busted that crazy son of a bitch for packing and expelled him from school. |
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Post by markyc on Apr 20, 2011 11:48:09 GMT -8
So you can't have your cell phone on in class but you can bring a gun? No food or drink in the classroom but packing heat is okay?Does this sound f-ing crazy to anybody else besides me
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Post by uwaztec on Apr 20, 2011 12:16:15 GMT -8
These whack jobs should be given their own State (maybe they already have one). Allow guns everywhere...schools, bars, banks, parole hearings, etc. Take away all zoning and environmental regulations and give them unlimited amounts of alcohol and fossil fuels to run their weekend toys to enable "scorched Earth. ....plus allow construction of nuclear plants with no regulatory overview or construction design. Give them what they want and we could have the ultimate "Road Warrior" experiment.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 12:19:27 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!! The article says Utah allows guns on campus. I could be missing something but I'm not aware of a rash of F students blowing away teachers in Utah. Maybe Utah only has A students. Likewise, I'm not aware of any law that has stopped crazy MF'ers from shooting people on campus. In fact, I'm pretty sure every school shooting has occurred on campuses that expressly prohibit the carrying of weapons. So maybe some of the far left wingers on here could expound on how a law, one way or the other will in any way effect future events. |
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Post by uwaztec on Apr 20, 2011 13:03:48 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!! The article says Utah allows guns on campus. I could be missing something but I'm not aware of a rash of F students blowing away teachers in Utah. Maybe Utah only has A students. Likewise, I'm not aware of any law that has stopped crazy MF'ers from shooting people on campus. In fact, I'm pretty sure every school shooting has occurred on campuses that expressly prohibit the carrying of weapons. So maybe some of the far left wingers on here could expound on how a law, one way or the other will in any way effect future events. You didn't answer the question AFAN. Do you give the student an "F" or a "D"? You have 250 students in a large class and you don't know anything about the student other than you briefly see evidence that they have a gun. I know you are arguing this just to argue, but even you probably wouldn't want to see students with guns at SDSU... Oh, I forgot...one did. |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 20, 2011 13:03:53 GMT -8
Read the details and I agree with her. She will sign a bill that just requires a legit birth certificate. The birth certificate which has already been produced IS a legal document issued by the State of Hawaii. It must be recgonized as such by every other state in the union. Case Closed. It is legal, just not good enough! Case back open!  |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 20, 2011 13:05:20 GMT -8
So you can't have your cell phone on in class but you can bring a gun? No food or drink in the classroom but packing heat is okay?Does this sound f-ing crazy to anybody else besides me Yes, they should let you bring milk and cookies along with your heat. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2011 13:48:33 GMT -8
The article says Utah allows guns on campus. I could be missing something but I'm not aware of a rash of F students blowing away teachers in Utah. Maybe Utah only has A students. Likewise, I'm not aware of any law that has stopped crazy MF'ers from shooting people on campus. In fact, I'm pretty sure every school shooting has occurred on campuses that expressly prohibit the carrying of weapons. So maybe some of the far left wingers on here could expound on how a law, one way or the other will in any way effect future events. You didn't answer the question AFAN. Do you give the student an "F" or a "D"? You have 250 students in a large class and you don't know anything about the student other than you briefly see evidence that they have a gun. I know you are arguing this just to argue, but even you probably wouldn't want to see students with guns at SDSU... Oh, I forgot...one did. Probably more than one. Only one actually shot anybody however. F. Pretty easy answer really given there's no data to support the notion that an F student is anymore or less likely than a D student to arbitrarily gun down a professor, or an A student for that matter. Generally, I don't like the notion of people going around strapped. Principally, I wouldn't advocate limiting their right to do so but a campus is different. Administrators need to have the freedom to make rules that they think are necessary to protect their wards and indemnify the institution against lawsuits. |
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Post by davdesid on Apr 20, 2011 15:40:25 GMT -8
The governor said in her veto message of the gun carry bill that she supports the expansion of legal carry, but that the bill presented to her was poorly written, and left open questions that could not be resolved due to vagueness. She is an attorney, and I assume she knows what she's talking about.
The bill was supposedly intended to extend campus carry to state and federally recognized permit holders. I don't believe her problem was with the concept, but rather with the sloppy language in the bill.
I suspect she will sign a cleaned up version.
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Apr 20, 2011 16:15:30 GMT -8
The gun part I agree with, but why would anyone have a problem with a law requiring proof of citizenship to run for higher office? Because it targets one person and laws targeting one person are generally unconstitutional. =Bob |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Apr 20, 2011 16:21:51 GMT -8
The birth certificate which has already been produced IS a legal document issued by the State of Hawaii. It must be recgonized as such by every other state in the union. Case Closed. It is legal, just not good enough! Case back open! Ah, anything to keep the argument going, eh  . =Bob |
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 21, 2011 10:36:53 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!! I would have that student outgunned so he would get what he earned. I challenge a leftie to give an "F" under any circumstances. They think being present should rate at least a "D". |
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Post by aztec70 on Apr 21, 2011 11:33:45 GMT -8
I challenge any far right winger on here.... that if they were a professor.... that they would go ahead and give an "F" to a student if they knew they were packing!! I would have that student outgunned so he would get what he earned. I challenge a leftie to give an "F" under any circumstances. They think being present should rate at least a "D". Dodge City here we come! Oh, wait. Dodge City had gun laws restricting carrying weapons. Something about keeping the peace and such. Where was the NRA back then? ;D |
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Post by markyc on Apr 21, 2011 12:08:22 GMT -8
Just ask one simple question, what is the benefit of allowing guns into schools? (crickets)
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Post by aztecwin on Apr 21, 2011 12:41:31 GMT -8
Just ask one simple question, what is the benefit of allowing guns into schools? (crickets) Who says there is a benefit? |
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Post by davdesid on Apr 21, 2011 13:16:55 GMT -8
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