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Post by ctap13 on Mar 2, 2017 12:06:41 GMT -8
We will not be better next year, unless Fisher retires. He has not helped us out lately at all he has made us worse. We had the #17 recruiting class a few years ago And look how that has panned out for us. You think it's always the players we get are bad? No, not at all. Coach Fisher does not know how to coach anymore.
He gets a stud named Malik pope and he gets him like seven shots a game. That is not nearly enough he should be getting 15 shots a game, minimum. He hardly ever used to play him because supposedly he is not great defensively. Coach would be benching Kevin Durant and Russel Westbrook if they were on our team also. That is an absolute joke! Coach Fisher needs to change his game and stop being so damn stubborn and learn how to coach a new good offense.
He brings in Kell Who was also very highly touted. He has him focusing so much on defense the guy can't even score anymore. Coming out of high school he was known as one of the best scorers in college that's what he was supposed to be anyways. Fisher ruined him also.
Leonard was good for us but not great. It shows you how much better somebody can be when they play for a real coach and not Steve Fisher. Fisher's game is old, just like his age. He will never be able to win the big game. The dude never even won a conference title in the Big Ten with all the great teams he had. He is not a great coach at all he's a pretty good Recruiter though he gets good players what a mistake good players are making by going to San Diego State to play for this guy. Yes I appreciate what he has done for our school but it's over now it's time to move on without him bring somebody fresh in who knows what the hell they're doing.
It really doesn't matter who keeps coming to our school anymore because Coach Fisher will ruin them. If I was a player trying to go to the NBA, I would never play for Coach Fisher. The word is out TJ Leaf is very lucky he did not play for school. you think you want to be associated with this type of basketball? 51 points? 22 points at the half last night? What kind of basketball is that?
We will not get better next year unless Coach Fisher retires and we also fire Dutch!
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Post by ctap13 on Jan 5, 2017 0:34:57 GMT -8
If our entire season rests on Pope coming back healthy, in shape and focused, well, that's a pretty scary thought. Even when he is healthy, Coach Fisher only finds a way to get him five shots a game! Blame Coach Fisher, not Pope!
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Post by ctap13 on Jan 5, 2017 0:32:26 GMT -8
Get a new coaching staff. 5 years ago, I wouldn't have said it but I have no problem saying it now. I agree the game has passed fisher by. He has done a lot for this program but is time for a young coach to take over the reigns. Amen! I sure hope this is Fisher's last season!
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Post by ctap13 on Jan 5, 2017 0:30:15 GMT -8
Helmsley contributed to this loss today... A forced drive to the basket that ended in a turnover..a play that was very predictable with no team involvement...just trying to be the hero...all of his drives look the same and the only time he is successful is when the opposing player is just not that good What drives me crazy is his free throw shooting..shooting 65% for the year and missed 2 at the end of the game that were costly I am not a shooting guru...but his free throw shooting rhythm just looks off..does not bend his knees and there is no flow to his shot..almost shoots his free throw with his legs locked on his tip toes...and his release point is not in rhythm. Can't believe that the coaches ain't correcting or adjusting his shot Once again, we are victim of bad offense... No reason to blame him at all. He's basically the only guy who showed up today. If you're going to blame anybody blame Trey Kell.... he's horrible!
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Post by ctap13 on Jan 5, 2017 0:29:11 GMT -8
I have confidence this Aztec team will play better in the coming weeks. Trey and Zylan will right the ship.[/quote Try is horrible! The dude is a ball hog, is way too slow and he is so damn overrated!
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Post by ctap13 on Jan 5, 2017 0:24:24 GMT -8
Totally agree, he's horrible! He is way too slow and he cannot even shoot anymore. if he would've had a good game we would've won the game tonight. Same with the last game. But for some reason Fisher loves him.
I sure hope this is Fisher's last season. It's time to bring in someone different, one who actually knows how to run a damn offense!
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 16, 2016 9:15:25 GMT -8
I wonder what "OK" is to you as it relates to basketball. If it means zero player development and one and done or two and done in the tournament, then yes, everything's going to be ok. Long Beach is nice this time of year. I don't expect/demand an undefeated season. That tends to keep me from posting suicidal thoughts every time things don't go my way. Some people are high strung and lash out at everything the first sign of struggle, even when it involves kids playing a game. They tend to be losers in life as well. Carry on. Ok dude LOL keep thinking we are good when we aren't! Better to be a realist instead of pretending we are still good.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 16, 2016 9:13:48 GMT -8
When Watson becomes eligible next year this offense will perk up noticeably. He is a natural point guard. NOT a combo, although he could be if he wanted that. He burned the zags for 33 points in one game last year and knows how to play versus them and many other teams. Are you sure? We've had more than a few "natural" point guards at State and even more shooting guards. Just wait until this coaching staff gets a hold of him, you'll see what happens . 33 points? That will be a distant memory. But hey, he'll be a good defender when he graduates at least. Exactly!!! Fisher will turn him into a defensive specialist LOL if I was a big recruit, I'd never go to SDSU and deal with Fishets inept offense! He kills players NBA value. He has completely messed up Pope single-handedly!
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 16, 2016 9:11:31 GMT -8
The good thing about threads like these.....it reminds me which of our fans were the bedwetters growing up. I had almost forgotten. The rest of us get over losses like these and look back and laugh at the rest of you when it turns out everything's going to be OK. I wonder what "OK" is to you as it relates to basketball. If it means zero player development and one and done or two and done in the tournament, then yes, everything's going to be ok. We will be lucky to make the NIT this season. Fisher has really plummeted lately.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 16, 2016 9:07:09 GMT -8
When Watson becomes eligible next year this offense will perk up noticeably. He is a natural point guard. NOT a combo, although he could be if he wanted that. He burned the zags for 33 points in one game last year and knows how to play versus them and many other teams. So we are waiting for a player from San Francisco to help us out next season? He's coming from a low division. He will be good, but not great playing against better competition. No reason to put all your eggs in his basket. He's not the next coming of the Messiah.We have a season right now we can't wait until next season.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 16, 2016 9:03:58 GMT -8
Not to make excuses but the reality is this. Gonzaga is a ranked team and we are not. This is a young team that lost 2 seniors that provided tough defense and leadership and are currently missing 3 important players that are expected to play huge roles this year. The 2010 team was a very different squad, 3 seniors and a budding superstar. That frontline could compete and dominate most teams in the country in offense, defense, and running the break. And DJ literally never turned the ball over, add in Chase,Rahon, Jamal, Carlwell, Mehdi it was a very good group. The play last night was disappointing in nearly every aspect, it's early and I am not giving up on this team, they have every chance to be very good and it's up to good health, the players and coaches to put it all together Those are excuses. We have no offense at all and no real coaching strategy, especially when we start losing. Regarding last night, it looked to me like the coaching staff gave up on the team and any chance of us winning midway through the first half. I was hoping for some real in-game coaching or strategy change like we saw vs. New Mexico at home for the conference championship a few years back, but alas, I didn't. Well said....
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 23:13:52 GMT -8
If, Kell & Hemsley combine for 45-50 points they can soitenly make up the difference. And, then with help from the rest of the team playing well they just might surprise a few people. Especially Gonzaga, because they don't have a guard combo that can compete with ours. So, we have more hope than some might believe. Don't give up so easily on them. Kelly was horrible last night. Overrated!
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 22:34:29 GMT -8
No you cannot. It's a funny thing to say, but if you truly believe that you have absolutely no concept of the game or what role coaching play in to it. You probably think Phil Jackson's teams only won because he had Jordan and Bryant? Just roll the basketballs out there! Smh I'm sorry for you taking me literal. The point was that last night we got beat be a superior team and not by coaching. Btw..... Jack tribedauuaa invented the triangle offense and taught defense. Phil was the glue that kept the teams together. Phil was a genius at getting egos to coexist. You must have missed the game last night. How can you say our offensive effort was good? It's like we've never seen a zone before LOL that's on the coaching staff 100%. Remember last year against West Virginia? Same thing they were pressed to death we had no answer for it. That's inexcusable to not have your team ready to go. That's coaching!
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 22:28:27 GMT -8
The good thing about threads like these.....it reminds me which of our fans were the bedwetters growing up. I had almost forgotten. The rest of us get over losses like these and look back and laugh at the rest of you when it turns out everything's going to be OK. Not all of us are happy and will accept the NIT like you. We are NIT quality And I do not take that lightly. This team continues to get worse the coaching gets worse and we always have the same crappy offense every single year. I do not see things getting much better anytime soon either. yes I know we will start winning some games at home against her very weak out of conference home schedule and there's a chance we might still win our division that's great but it's not a ticket into the tournament. I mean how much longer are we willing to put up with the same crappy offense every single season from Coach Fisher?
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 9:15:47 GMT -8
Not to make excuses but the reality is this. Gonzaga is a ranked team and we are not. This is a young team that lost 2 seniors that provided tough defense and leadership and are currently missing 3 important players that are expected to play huge roles this year. The 2010 team was a very different squad, 3 seniors and a budding superstar. That frontline could compete and dominate most teams in the country in offense, defense, and running the break. And DJ literally never turned the ball over, add in Chase,Rahon, Jamal, Carlwell, Mehdi it was a very good group. The play last night was disappointing in nearly every aspect, it's early and I am not giving up on this team, they have every chance to be very good and it's up to good health, the players and coaches to put it all together It doesn't matter. It's the same $#!+ every year from Coach Fisher. We keep hearing about how much better the offense is going to be every year it's complete crap nothing has changed he's the same crappy offensive coach he is every year! he's going to start losing big-time recruits who know about his offense of problems. That's going to start happening big time.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 9:14:32 GMT -8
My thoughts: I can coach the gonzaga team to a final 4. They remind of the badger team from a couple of years ago but better. It's not coaching. It's recruiting. But.... Don't bash Fish. AAU runs college basketball recruiting. Every top recuit has connections to AAU. AAU makes tons of cash from the players family because they know that the only way to get access to the dukes of the world Is through AAU. Then AAU turns around and sells the player to a team. Essentially, AAU gets paid twice. If you think I'm wrong, just remember why we have lost out on 2 key recruits and follow the money. Fish is an old school recruiter. He goes directly to the family and sells the parents on his program. Those days are over. So this regulates us to players with a wide range of possibilities. Sometimes we end up with unfulfilled potential or we hit pay dirt with guys like Kwahi Plus, fisher is about building men just as much as he is about building basketball players. I will back Fisher till the end. In Fish We Trust Stop defending Coach Fisher all the time. This is a big problem with recruiting and coaching. It's not just recruiting. How can you say that? The guy has no idea how to run an offense and we need offense to win games in basketball. It's the same $#!+ every year. It's time to replace him and find somebody better somebody who knows how to run an offense because we are going nowhere but backwards right now.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 9:12:45 GMT -8
After a loss, the trolls come out. Ain't no trolls here. I've been saying this $#!+ every year and nobody listens and they call me crazy and love to talk smack. This team is not very good and we are getting worse every year in our coaching staff continues to be pitiful when it comes to scoring and offense.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 9:10:39 GMT -8
When TK was recruited he was described as one of the best high school shooters in the country. Yeah what a complete joke that has turned out to be LOL he is so overrated even last year he was in my opinion. In big games he does not show up he can't shoot and he's way too slow what is it good for? Very disappointed with him and his actions on the court.
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 15, 2016 9:09:19 GMT -8
New year, same results. I've been saying it for a while and it may not be popular, but it's definitely time to look towards the future. The game has passed this coaching staff by. There were so many "worst things" about tonight's loss but one thing kept coming up...coaching. We had no answer for the zone, and we never, ever do. I expected some sort of different offensive sets or different player rotations but no, we got the exact same thing from start to finish. The game was over midway through the first half, essentially. But, rather than try to salvage what was left of the game or give our players any sense of hope that we would actually try to win, we stuck to the same old game plan. Our players made careless turnovers and played tentatively on offense like they were seeing the zone for the first time. There was no slashing to the basket or backdoor moves and pretty much zero "real" ball movement. We kept getting the same results but we never tried to run something different offensively. Add to that, a team of guys who really can't shoot (yes, that means Kell), and you have the makings of a disaster. Can we please just recruit some shooters, rather than "athletes" who won't ever develop their offensive game but who we can mold into defensive stalwarts? Agreed 100%! I love coach for what he's done for the city and our school, however it is time to get a new coach a new direction and a new fresh feel. Coach cannot keep coaching like this every single year with the same results absolutely zero focus on the offensive side of the game how does he expect us to win? You need to score to win. It's that simple. I got completely bashed last year for writing this stuff but I was correct. Another season with another team that can't score, a horrible home out of conference schedule, nothing but tall lanky guys on the team that can't shoot or do anything else offensely. We as fans need to come to the realization that this team is not anywhere near a top 25 team anymore and I don't think we will be for the next several years. We are going backwards not forwards. We are focusing on the conference and not the big tournament when it should be the opposite. It's not such a big deal to win our conference when it sucks every year. Very disappointed with Coach Fisher and staff!
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Post by ctap13 on Nov 14, 2016 23:34:28 GMT -8
We'll be in the NCAA tourney . Like the announcer said Gonzaga is a final four team full of NBA prospects. We have alot of new players which never played as a team here. We'll have a 25 win season and be in the big dance . We will do good in conference like we always do, but we will not make the tournament again because of our s#!++y schedule. I have no idea how we can have such a bad out of conference home schedule. I mean this is pitiful.
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