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Post by sdtosf on Jan 30, 2011 21:27:17 GMT -8
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Post by William L. Rupp on Jan 30, 2011 22:23:34 GMT -8
Very important story, but it really belongs in the international section.
WLR
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 31, 2011 6:52:07 GMT -8
Always have to wonder at who is behind these type things. If it is the US, as is speculated in some corners, will it backfire and leave Egypt in the hands of even worse people from our point of View and make Israel in even a tighter spot.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 31, 2011 11:17:36 GMT -8
Reports have said that the Muslim Brotherhood is slowly but surely taking control of the demonstrations.
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Post by monty on Jan 31, 2011 15:06:01 GMT -8
So what? It is the biggest oppositional party and if there are actual free elections and that is what is decided then so be it. Egypt will be a client state either way as they'll get our money.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 31, 2011 17:03:03 GMT -8
So what??? The Muslim Brotherhood is one step removed from the Taliban. They would turn Egypt into another Iran.  |
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Post by aztecwin on Jan 31, 2011 20:12:47 GMT -8
The outlook for Israel could be very bleak should the wrong faction(s) gain power.
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Post by aztec79 on Jan 31, 2011 20:20:17 GMT -8
its' 1979 all over again.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 31, 2011 23:17:14 GMT -8
Obama is not supporting Mubaric, which is a huge mistake. It is not about a fight for freedom, it's about keeping the region stable. This bodes ill for Israel, there may be another war in the near future.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Feb 1, 2011 9:25:49 GMT -8
Obama is not supporting Mubaric, which is a huge mistake. It is not about a fight for freedom, it's about keeping the region stable. This bodes ill for Israel, there may be another war in the near future. Israel has cause for concern. However, the military in Egypt is very stable and not a hotbed of radical Islam. They will keep things under control. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Feb 1, 2011 9:40:34 GMT -8
Reports have said that the Muslim Brotherhood is slowly but surely taking control of the demonstrations. If so, a Gotterdamerung destruction of the world awaits, because Israel will totally destroy with nuclear weapons any country that is in a position to destroy Israel. As we have seen in the old Testament and in modern history, Israel knows that you do not tolerate belligerence among fools. |
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Post by monty on Feb 1, 2011 10:01:45 GMT -8
So what??? The Muslim Brotherhood is one step removed from the Taliban. They would turn Egypt into another Iran. that's just bs. Egypt isn't going to become a theocracy. |
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Post by monty on Feb 1, 2011 10:06:26 GMT -8
Obama is not supporting Mubaric, which is a huge mistake. It is not about a fight for freedom, it's about keeping the region stable. This bodes ill for Israel, there may be another war in the near future. Israel has cause for concern. However, the military in Egypt is very stable and not a hotbed of radical Islam. They will keep things under control. exactly. there is always some uncertainty when your chosen dictator falls, but egypt isn't going to attack Israel the day after Mubarak steps down, and anyone that thinks Egypt won't remain an ally with the US is deluding themselves through fear of them praying 5 times a day or like Joe, looking for John's Apocalypse in magic 8 balls and tea leaves. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Feb 3, 2011 8:55:12 GMT -8
Israel has cause for concern. However, the military in Egypt is very stable and not a hotbed of radical Islam. They will keep things under control. exactly. there is always some uncertainty when your chosen dictator falls, but egypt isn't going to attack Israel the day after Mubarak steps down, and anyone that thinks Egypt won't remain an ally with the US is deluding themselves through fear of them praying 5 times a day or like Joe, looking for John's Apocalypse in magic 8 balls and tea leaves. I do not like people who lie about me. I will ask you now to remove that lie. I have no fear of Islam, but I do believe in killing any and all Radical Islamics. There is a difference, you know, as I have written about THAT ISSUE for the past third of a century. The only good one is a dead one. As soon as you identify them you need to kill them. Don't hesitate for a second. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Feb 3, 2011 9:19:25 GMT -8
So what??? The Muslim Brotherhood is one step removed from the Taliban. They would turn Egypt into another Iran. that's just bs. Egypt isn't going to become a theocracy. The average IQ in Egypt is way below 90. Egypt can very easily become a theocrazy, just like Iran. |
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Post by monty on Feb 3, 2011 18:14:37 GMT -8
that's just bs. Egypt isn't going to become a theocracy. The average IQ in Egypt is way below 90. Egypt can very easily become a theocrazy, just like Iran. America is theocrazy in a few spots |
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Post by monty on Feb 3, 2011 18:19:38 GMT -8
exactly. there is always some uncertainty when your chosen dictator falls, but egypt isn't going to attack Israel the day after Mubarak steps down, and anyone that thinks Egypt won't remain an ally with the US is deluding themselves through fear of them praying 5 times a day or like Joe, looking for John's Apocalypse in magic 8 balls and tea leaves. I do not like people who lie about me. I will ask you now to remove that lie. I have no fear of Islam, but I do believe in killing any and all Radical Islamics. There is a difference, you know, as I have written about THAT ISSUE for the past third of a century. The only good one is a dead one. As soon as you identify them you need to kill them. Don't hesitate for a second. reading comprehension my friend, 'or' is doing the operation above, you chose to include fear of islam with your prurient wish for John's vision to come to pass, not me, which is telling. Which brings up the question: is it really God's will or a prophecy when zionists have been trying to bring it to pass for some time now? |
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Feb 3, 2011 18:27:20 GMT -8
Obama is not supporting Mubaric, which is a huge mistake. It is not about a fight for freedom, it's about keeping the region stable. This bodes ill for Israel, there may be another war in the near future. Neither is McCain and a large section of Republicans. Are they wrong as well? Look you can't invade Iraq to spread Democracy in the region and then support a dictator in Egypt when the people want free elections. So why shouldn't these people be free to elect who they want? Just because it may be anti Israel isn't reason enough. The only thing we can do is withdraw any kind of financial support in the future. In the long run it's the right thing to do even if there are negative consequences right now. The Egyptian Govt is already going after journalists, I can only imagine what they have in mind once the cameras are gone if it doesn't get settled soon. The ultimate question is do we want to spread Democracy or not? You can't have it both ways. |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Feb 3, 2011 20:56:05 GMT -8
Obama is not supporting Mubaric, which is a huge mistake. It is not about a fight for freedom, it's about keeping the region stable. This bodes ill for Israel, there may be another war in the near future. Neither is McCain and a large section of Republicans. Are they wrong as well? Look you can't invade Iraq to spread Democracy in the region and then support a dictator in Egypt when the people want free elections. So why shouldn't these people be free to elect who they want? Just because it may be anti Israel isn't reason enough. The only thing we can do is withdraw any kind of financial support in the future. In the long run it's the right thing to do even if there are negative consequences right now. The Egyptian Govt is already going after journalists, I can only imagine what they have in mind once the cameras are gone if it doesn't get settled soon. The ultimate question is do we want to spread Democracy or not? You can't have it both ways. Any war in the near future between Israel and the neighboring Arab countries will be nuclear. Israel will use what ever it needs to remain free of Arab oppression. To them the only good politically active Arab is a dead one always rings true. |
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Post by aztecsrule72001 on Feb 4, 2011 0:05:05 GMT -8
Neither is McCain and a large section of Republicans. Are they wrong as well? Look you can't invade Iraq to spread Democracy in the region and then support a dictator in Egypt when the people want free elections. So why shouldn't these people be free to elect who they want? Just because it may be anti Israel isn't reason enough. The only thing we can do is withdraw any kind of financial support in the future. In the long run it's the right thing to do even if there are negative consequences right now. The Egyptian Govt is already going after journalists, I can only imagine what they have in mind once the cameras are gone if it doesn't get settled soon. The ultimate question is do we want to spread Democracy or not? You can't have it both ways. Any war in the near future between Israel and the neighboring Arab countries will be nuclear. Israel will use what ever it needs to remain free of Arab oppression. To them the only good politically active Arab is a dead one always rings true. and how is this our problem? Get our men and women the hell out of there and let them fight it out. |
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