|
Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 10, 2010 22:35:39 GMT -8
ah philip, you Bob's Lackey here? Colorado to the pac ten is official, Pac ten announced it, that is just one blogger writing a story, we have also had other writers saying there was no vote.
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 11, 2010 6:46:25 GMT -8
Are you serous? The Univ. of Colorado is a member of the prestigious American Association of Universities, and has been since 1966. Out of the hundreds and hundreds of colleges and universities in the U.S., only about 60 belong to the A.A.U. CU's membership in that body labels it as an elite institution. AzWm McGill and U-Toronto have been members since the '20s, so it's not just American universities. But still, SUNY Buffalo is a member? Like any other academic organization, academic politics come into play. Not saying the members aren't great schools, but claiming that being a member automatically makes a school "elite" while not being a member does not is nonsense. =Bob =Bob Bob, you need to read posts more carefully. I was mainly responding to the statement that "CU's academic reputation could not be worse." Gburch basically was implying that the Univ. of Colorado is a crap school academically. Do you agree with that? AzWm
|
|
|
Post by PQ Aztec on Jun 11, 2010 8:14:38 GMT -8
My head is spinning with all the possibliites out there. SDSU's football future is very cloudy right now
|
|
|
Post by steveaztec on Jun 11, 2010 8:32:45 GMT -8
My head is spinning with all the possibliites out there. SDSU's football future is very cloudy right now Yes, flip a coin.
|
|
|
Post by sdsuphilip on Jun 11, 2010 9:19:40 GMT -8
ah philip, you Bob's Lackey here? nice call
|
|
|
Post by wyoaztec4life on Jun 11, 2010 10:00:08 GMT -8
In my oppinion, Utah & BYU wont split up...if the Pac-10 or Big 12 only have one spot to fill when it all shakes out I cross my fingers that those two will stay commited to each other and the MWC.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2010 10:37:31 GMT -8
Let's be clear about a few things. 1. Nebraska isn't going to the Pac since the Huskers are going to the Big Ten. 2. Regardless of what Pac-10 commish Scott said, his conference isn't going to stay put at 11 since that does nothing for the Pac. Therefore, if the Pac8/Big12-6+2 thing doesn't happen because whiny beotch Baylor manages to put the kibosh on it, the Pac is then going to what was its original position and has since been its fallback position, adding Colorado and Utah. 3. Having lost only Nebraska and Colorado, unless and until the Big Ten also takes Missouri, the obvious choice for the Big Ten would then be to offer BYU and, IMO, UNM. TCU is a complete no-go. Having the Frogs in the same conference would make it more difficult for UT to out-recruit TCU and because of TCU's location, adding the Frogs would require one of the Oklahoma schools to move to the North division. So if the Pac becomes the Pac-12 rather than the Pac-16, the MWC will be down to just seven schools and will obviously add Boise to go to the requisite eight and then see what happens. I think all of the above is going to moot, however, because the Pac-16 IS going to happen. Of course, the MWC could still lose Utah if aTm goes to the SEC since Utah would be the likely replacement for the Aggies. If that happens, Boise will be added and the MWC would be at nine again. Possible exception: If Missouri also has a fallback position. I bet they do. I'm thinking Mizzou has burnt so many bridges that it is going to leave the Big 12 even if the Big Ten doesn't take the Tigers and the Big 12 doesn't die. And I think that fallback position is the Big East. Only under that unlikely scenario can I see TCU being added to the Big 12. all of your predictions indicate one thing...MWC will be farther away from BCS status than ever before. Believe me, I can understand the pessimism. However, I think it's more likely than not that things will work out OK. I'm a little concerned that Frank the Tank's sources are saying Texas is still talking to the Big Ten. However, I suspect UT is just using such rumors to leverage its portion of the Pac8/Big12-6+2 TV pie. (When it comes to greed, UT makes ND look like mere pikers.) The one rumor I think has a lot of validity is aTm to the SEC. The Aggies would be a terrible fit for the Pac culturally and the SEC reportedly wants them so I think that just like the Baylor thing which is now thankfully dead (so are Baylor athletics, but I digress), aTm to the SEC is going to come down to whether the Texas legislature allows it. If so, aTm won't join the Pac and the question will be who replaces aTm in the deal. Chris Dufresne of the L.A. Times definitely has contacts within the Pac and he said today that if aTm is out, the first option will be Kansas. While everyone has been saying the state legislature will never let KU join a conference without KSU, that remains to be seen. Here's another tidbit. Frank the Tank has been saying for two days that some sources are saying Missouri and ND are going to join Nebraska in going to the Big Ten. Lou Holtz said this morning that after thinking for years that ND should be independent that he now thinks ND should join the Big Ten. Holtz has a lot of contacts at ND and I doubt he would say that if he knew the AD and president were completely opposed to the idea.
|
|
|
Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 11, 2010 10:48:57 GMT -8
McGill and U-Toronto have been members since the '20s, so it's not just American universities. But still, SUNY Buffalo is a member? Like any other academic organization, academic politics come into play. Not saying the members aren't great schools, but claiming that being a member automatically makes a school "elite" while not being a member does not is nonsense. =Bob Bob, you need to read posts more carefully. I was mainly responding to the statement that "CU's academic reputation could not be worse." Gburch basically was implying that the Univ. of Colorado is a crap school academically. Do you agree with that? AzWm Read my last sentence again. =Bob
|
|
|
Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 11, 2010 10:51:33 GMT -8
The one rumor I think has a lot of validity is aTm to the SEC. The Aggies would be a terrible fit for the Pac culturally and the SEC reportedly wants them so I think that just like the Baylor thing which is now thankfully dead (so are Baylor athletics, but I digress), aTm to the SEC is going to come down to whether the Texas legislature allows it. If so, aTm won't join the Pac and the question will be who replaces aTm in the deal. I'll be the first to predict that if the Big 12 dies, Baylor joins the WAC. =Bob
|
|
|
Post by Bob Forsythe on Jun 11, 2010 10:52:49 GMT -8
In 2 or 3 years, the BCS is history, so it really doesn't matter. What matters is how many BCS teams will be left behind, how pissed off they are and whether or not they'd be willing to litigate with the current non-AQ conferences on the basis of anti-trust laws. And I have to say, I'm getting rather tired of your gloom and doom predictions based upon nothing more than idle speculation. =Bob and im tired of you following my posts around, you offer nothing to the conversation but your Simon Cowel critique. My, what an out-sized ego you have to think I follow you around. =Bob
|
|
choop
Bench Warmer
Posts: 52
|
Post by choop on Jun 11, 2010 15:02:57 GMT -8
I'm with you, Bob. They'll try to do some arm twisting for Baylor, but at the end of the day, the schools go their own way. Texas A&M has serious talks going on with the SEC. ESPN-U says don't be surprised to see A&M go on its own to the SEC.
This will be a short drama. We'll know after the regents meeting on Tuesday.
|
|