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Post by johneaztec on Apr 12, 2024 16:36:44 GMT -8
You think that RFK and the Republicans are in cahoots with each other? A billion percent. Can you expand? What does he get out of it? Financial?
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 16:43:54 GMT -8
I already posted a video of RFK Jr's New York leader urging people to vote for Trump.
Here's Trump telling liberals to vote for RFK.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 16:45:04 GMT -8
General apathy towards candidates is how we ended up with a disastrous Trump term. It's likely where we are headed again, with Republican plant RFK Jr. in the middle. Instead of "which candidate do you prefer?" we really need to be asking what's best for the country as a whole. There's too much at stake. Apathy, and people tired of politicians running the country at the time. It's just laziness and apathy. Pay attention to voter responses, you'll see the proof in the answers. Couldn't have timed this better.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 16:59:40 GMT -8
I would say an absolutely massive percentage of the population, whatever that number may be, extend as far as their own self-interest goes. They don't want the best candidate for everyone, they want what they perceive will help them and only them. Imagine being alright with a Trump win because you want a "lesson" to be taught.
That's the everyday voter, ignoring issues of consequence to pad their own arrogance. Look no further than Trump's impending legal issues - On no planet should anyone be able to be favored for the presidency when they are under active indictment for STEALING CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE that got American assets killed.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 12, 2024 18:26:12 GMT -8
I would say an absolutely massive percentage of the population, whatever that number may be, extend as far as their own self-interest goes. They don't want the best candidate for everyone, they want what they perceive will help them and only them. Imagine being alright with a Trump win because you want a "lesson" to be taught. That's the everyday voter, ignoring issues of consequence to pad their own arrogance. Look no further than Trump's impending legal issues - On no planet should anyone be able to be favored for the presidency when they are under active indictment for STEALING CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE that got American assets killed. It's a lot more than that. In 2016, there were MANY that were simply tired of America not being put first. Helping others, and not our own. They liked it when he said that he would make other NATO Nations, and others, pay their fair share. They felt we were getting ripped off. They felt that he didn't have an ulterior motive in a financial way. He didn't need to line his pockets. He didn't need the money. So many other reasons. Those were some big reasons for him getting elected, besides the fact it was Hillary he was up against.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 18:48:08 GMT -8
I would say an absolutely massive percentage of the population, whatever that number may be, extend as far as their own self-interest goes. They don't want the best candidate for everyone, they want what they perceive will help them and only them. Imagine being alright with a Trump win because you want a "lesson" to be taught. That's the everyday voter, ignoring issues of consequence to pad their own arrogance. Look no further than Trump's impending legal issues - On no planet should anyone be able to be favored for the presidency when they are under active indictment for STEALING CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE that got American assets killed. It's a lot more than that. In 2016, there were MANY that were simply tired of America not being put first. Helping others, and not our own. They liked it when he said that he would make other NATO Nations, and others, pay their fair share. They felt we were getting ripped off. They felt that he didn't have an ulterior motive in a financial way. He didn't need to line his pockets. He didn't need the money. So many other reasons. Those were some big reasons for him getting elected, besides the fact it was Hillary he was up against. No, it isn't. It's a very simple issue, for once. At its core, it's basic selfishness and self-interest. Trump lost the popular vote, by a historic margin, so it's not like he was overwhelmingly seen as a popular choice. Without Russian interference, he loses. I don't know who "they" is, since you never source anything, but I'd argue against pretty much every point, if you actually look at the breakdown of votes by demographic.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 12, 2024 18:55:56 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 12, 2024 18:58:38 GMT -8
It's a lot more than that. In 2016, there were MANY that were simply tired of America not being put first. Helping others, and not our own. They liked it when he said that he would make other NATO Nations, and others, pay their fair share. They felt we were getting ripped off. They felt that he didn't have an ulterior motive in a financial way. He didn't need to line his pockets. He didn't need the money. So many other reasons. Those were some big reasons for him getting elected, besides the fact it was Hillary he was up against. No, it isn't. It's a very simple issue, for once. At its core, it's basic selfishness and self-interest. Trump lost the popular vote, by a historic margin, so it's not like he was overwhelmingly seen as a popular choice. Without Russian interference, he loses. I don't know who "they" is, since you never source anything, but I'd argue against pretty much every point, if you actually look at the breakdown of votes by demographic. You don't know who "they" are? Americans. Pretty obvious. It was definitely more than what you're bringing up.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 19:01:47 GMT -8
I would say an absolutely massive percentage of the population, whatever that number may be, extend as far as their own self-interest goes. They don't want the best candidate for everyone, they want what they perceive will help them and only them. Imagine being alright with a Trump win because you want a "lesson" to be taught. That's the everyday voter, ignoring issues of consequence to pad their own arrogance. Look no further than Trump's impending legal issues - On no planet should anyone be able to be favored for the presidency when they are under active indictment for STEALING CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE that got American assets killed. It's a lot more than that. In 2016, there were MANY that were simply tired of America not being put first. Helping others, and not our own. They liked it when he said that he would make other NATO Nations, and others, pay their fair share. They felt we were getting ripped off. They felt that he didn't have an ulterior motive in a financial way. He didn't need to line his pockets. He didn't need the money. So many other reasons. Those were some big reasons for him getting elected, besides the fact it was Hillary he was up against. That brings up an interesting point though: Trump did exceptionally well to deceive enough voters, who were apathetic towards Clinton already, to steer enough votes his direction. Using his own money to finance his campaign, running off his business "success" (that apparently nobody really bothered to investigate) and political fatigue towards a "third term" for an Obama-like candidate. He won't have many of the same advantages this time around, outside of Biden's weakness as an incumbent.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 19:19:02 GMT -8
"I want conservative laws"
"I cried when I left the polling location because I don’t like Trump at all. I was deeply saddened to vote for him. His personality, his mannerisms and his inexperience repulse me. I wish there had been another conservative choice without simply throwing away my vote. I know if I travel outside of the US I will be deeply disliked because of him."
Kinda reiterates my entire point.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 12, 2024 19:27:17 GMT -8
"I want conservative laws" "I cried when I left the polling location because I don’t like Trump at all. I was deeply saddened to vote for him. His personality, his mannerisms and his inexperience repulse me. I wish there had been another conservative choice without simply throwing away my vote. I know if I travel outside of the US I will be deeply disliked because of him." Kinda reiterates my entire point. And if you read on, and the part you left out was that she believes in the right to bear arms, and is against abortions. The point you made is part of it, but there was much more to it. Just like in this upcoming election, in 2016 it was also the lesser of two evils, unfortunately. We all knew that there were MANY who wouldn't admit that they were going to vote for Trump. That says a lot about him.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 12, 2024 21:09:41 GMT -8
"I want conservative laws" "I cried when I left the polling location because I don’t like Trump at all. I was deeply saddened to vote for him. His personality, his mannerisms and his inexperience repulse me. I wish there had been another conservative choice without simply throwing away my vote. I know if I travel outside of the US I will be deeply disliked because of him." Kinda reiterates my entire point. And if you read on, and the part you left out was that she believes in the right to bear arms, and is against abortions. The point you made is part of it, but there was much more to it. Just like in this upcoming election, in 2016 it was also the lesser of two evils, unfortunately. We all know that there MANY who wouldn't admit that they were going to vote for Trump. That says a lot about him. I read the entire thing, believe me. Trump isn't some champion of conservatism, he's actually closer to a liberal than he is a conservative. Her sentiment basically encapsulates pretty much any true Republican who runs on a typical Republican platform.
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Post by azson on Apr 15, 2024 10:56:09 GMT -8
Re 2016: don't underestimate the importance of HRC running an abysmal campaign, i.e. the big FU to the rust belt. Lets hope the Biden team doesn't repeat that mistake.
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