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Post by aztecking on Apr 5, 2024 10:29:36 GMT -8
It’s not the scholarship part it’s bringing in his replacement starting PG when you cannot promise any of the good ones in the portal that they would be our starting PG without knowing whether Butler will be here. I wouldn't count out BJ Davis. He was a 4* recruit and is a true PG. Although he only played a few minutes here and there, he at least got a feel for what he has to do next season while observing from the bench. I’m not counting him out but he barely played. He isn’t ready to be the starting PG. We need a 1 year bridge for him so he will probably start by his junior year. |
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Post by azson on Apr 5, 2024 10:29:43 GMT -8
It’s not the scholarship part it’s bringing in his replacement starting PG when you cannot promise any of the good ones in the portal that they would be our starting PG without knowing whether Butler will be here. I wouldn't count out BJ Davis. He was a 4* recruit and is a true PG. Although he only played a few minutes here and there, he at least got a feel for what he has to do next season while observing from the bench. I really liked what I saw from him during garbage time of the Yale game. Granted he was playing vs. Yale's scrubs, but he was the only one of our players on the court at the time who looked game time ready. |
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Post by hoobs on Apr 5, 2024 10:57:17 GMT -8
It’s not the scholarship part it’s bringing in his replacement starting PG when you cannot promise any of the good ones in the portal that they would be our starting PG without knowing whether Butler will be here. I wouldn't count out BJ Davis. He was a 4* recruit and is a true PG. Although he only played a few minutes here and there, he at least got a feel for what he has to do next season while observing from the bench. Oh, 100%, but it would really help to have a 1-year 'rental' PG for next season who could play alongside either Butler (if he returns) or Waters at SG (Waters battling with Byrd to start at SF if Butler comes back). Davis then getting around ~15 mins/game, and 100% taking over as a Junior. If we don't get that transfer PG, all is certainly not lost... just less certain as we have to see how Davis & Byrd can handle the PG duties. |
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Post by Gundo on Apr 5, 2024 11:02:09 GMT -8
Not liking his odds for the NBA, he withdrew last year coming off peak interest from "The Shot" and the Final Four run but didn't make substantial improvements to his game this past season. It'll either be UDFA/Summer/G-League, International, or returning to SDSU for the last season.
Here are the key dates for the entire 2024 Draft process: -April 27: NBA Early Entry Eligibility Deadline (11:59 p.m. ET)
-May 12: NBA Draft Lottery 2024
-May 13-19: NBA Combine (Chicago, IL)
-June 16: NBA Draft Early Entry Entrant Withdrawal Deadline (5 p.m. ET)
-June 26: NBA Draft 2024 (First Round)
-June 27: NBA Draft 2024 presented (Second Round)The portal deadline is May 1st to enter, so Lamont would need NBA feedback in 3 weeks. There may be leeway for Grad Transfers, should he decide on that route, but the withdraw date is June 16th, most high-level D1 PGs may be snatched up over the next two months. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 5, 2024 11:12:30 GMT -8
think it would be quite helpful for both Lamont and Dutcher to have an honest conversation about Lamont's plans when both are back next week
Sure would assist Dutcher in his recruiting in the Transfer Portal - SDSU would not be very likely to sign a PG if other schools are saying that Lamont will be coming back
Very important this summer to see development from all the returning players - as there are numerous unknowns about their development
Would also wonder about Bryd's best position - same for Waters if he returns - players usually have one of their best improvements after they have played a full season at SDSU ( would not consider Bryd's true Freshman's season as his first year of playing
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Post by partytecs on Apr 5, 2024 11:20:31 GMT -8
think it would be quite helpful for both Lamont and Dutcher to have an honest conversation about Lamont's plans when both are back next week Sure would assist Dutcher in his recruiting in the Transfer Portal - SDSU would not be very likely to sign a PG if other schools are saying that Lamont will be coming back Very important this summer to see development from all the returning players - as there are numerous unknowns about their development Would also wonder about Bryd's best position - same for Waters if he returns - players usually have one of their best improvements after they have played a full season at SDSU ( would not consider Bryd's true Freshman's season as his first year of playing You will know how the Butler and Dutch discussion goes, if Butler declares for the transfer portal. I would expect it out by next week. |
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Apr 5, 2024 11:24:30 GMT -8
Sounds like if he doesn't like what the NBA scouts have to say he will return to school. I think he will hear the same thing he heard a year ago, he needs to work on his offense. The question will be can he get that in our offensive system or does he need to go to a different system like Keshad |
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Post by junior on Apr 5, 2024 11:47:55 GMT -8
Do the Aztecs "have" a system? Seems like there were some set plays and plenty of "hoist a three with lots of time on the shotclock and no one near to get a rebound" whenever the ball wasn't going to LeDee this season. Too much standing around or simply running around - aimlessly.
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Post by aztecx on Apr 5, 2024 11:57:03 GMT -8
Sounds like if he doesn't like what the NBA scouts have to say he will return to school. I think he will hear the same thing he heard a year ago, he needs to work on his offense. The question will be can he get that in our offensive system or does he need to go to a different system like Keshad System is not the problem. Making shots is the need |
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Post by aztecx on Apr 5, 2024 11:58:22 GMT -8
Do the Aztecs "have" a system? Seems like there were some set plays and plenty of "hoist a three with lots of time on the shotclock and no one near to get a rebound" whenever the ball wasn't going to LeDee this season. Too much standing around or simply running around - aimlessly. System looks a lot like zoom action which is popular in the nba |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 5, 2024 12:06:19 GMT -8
It’s not the scholarship part it’s bringing in his replacement starting PG when you cannot promise any of the good ones in the portal that they would be our starting PG without knowing whether Butler will be here. I wouldn't count out BJ Davis. He was a 4* recruit and is a true PG. Although he only played a few minutes here and there, he at least got a feel for what he has to do next season while observing from the bench. Both Malachi Flynn and KJ Feagin were players that played the point and the were often on the floor at the same time. Don't see an issue with Bulter and BJ on the floor together. Gives us some depth and may allow Butler to work more at the 2 to see if he can improve his 3 point shots. Hell Pulliam wasn't a shooter either, but we had Shackel for that. Oh, seen a lot of people wanting tall guards. Both Flynn and Feagin were 6'1 and I sure as hell wouldn't mind a backcourt like that again. I hope Butler comes back, we are going to be younger next year and can use his experience. I don't see him getting to the NBA unless he really improves his 3 point shot. From what I've read, the top senior players this year were getting about $50K in the MESA Foundation NIL deal. Not sure how much Butler made on his own but I wouldn't be surprised if he took in over $70K. That ain't a bad haul |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 5, 2024 12:08:47 GMT -8
DUPE
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Post by standiego on Apr 5, 2024 12:29:14 GMT -8
yes that is the decision Lamont and his family have to decide - what do they think is best for him - toss in if the NIL money is important or getting his Masters ( think his mother is a strong advocate on education )
Think Keshad is or will be back from Slam Dunk contest and they will spend some time together . How much of a benefit was it for Keshad at Arizona and did it make it him a possible being drafted into the NBA ?
Lamont really plays hard on defense - and it may take a toll on his shooting - as the legs relate to a person's shooting - same as it may do on others Matt B
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Post by ramrodd23 on Apr 5, 2024 12:47:12 GMT -8
yes that is the decision Lamont and his family have to decide - what do they think is best for him - toss in if the NIL money is important or getting his Masters ( think his mother is a strong advocate on education ) Think Keshad is or will be back from Slam Dunk contest and they will spend some time together . How much of a benefit was it for Keshad at Arizona and did it make it him a possible being drafted into the NBA ? Lamont really plays hard on defense - and it may take a toll on his shooting - as the legs relate to a person's shooting - same as it may do on others Matt B Matt Bradley first year at SDSU had 1.1 less points then at Cal. He Ast went up same as rebounds. So the playing hard on defense didn’t have any effect to his shooting. Especially since SDSU typically runs a slower pace offense. |
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Post by CbLsD on Apr 5, 2024 13:56:42 GMT -8
G League players are guaranteed a base salary of $40,500 throughout a 50-game regular season. There's potential for higher earnings through NIL opportunities at SDSU or elsewhere, it's crucial to acknowledge the necessity for Lamont refining skills, particularly in shooting the ball behind the arc, and at the line. Looking at the experiences of players like X Thames and Jeremy Hemsley, both of whom faced challenges in remaining in the G League or playing overseas, underscores the importance of shooting & skills development. On the other hand, Jordan Schakel's notable three-year tenure in the G League, coupled with his nearly 40% accuracy from beyond the arc, highlights the significance of consistent performance. Despite my utmost admiration for Lamont, it's essential to recognize the hard journey toward NBA success—it's no easy feat. Butler needs to do what Sasser did from Alabama. He reportedly shot 28% from three his freshmen year. Then after that year between the end and the beginning of his sophomore year he MADE 15,000 threes that summer. That wasn't attempts but makes. After a slow start in their last game he had 6 straight makes from three. I think Butler needs to get away from the outside voices from camps and NBA tryouts and just get reps. Gotta believe he could get some coaching from Kawhi's shooting coach that worked with him after SDSU. Then it is all up to him to put up shots. From May through September he has 150 days. That's 100 made threes a day for 15,000. It's doable if he wants it and what he needs. Mark Sears. |
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Post by pbnative on Apr 5, 2024 14:40:08 GMT -8
Do the Aztecs "have" a system? Seems like there were some set plays and plenty of "hoist a three with lots of time on the shotclock and no one near to get a rebound" whenever the ball wasn't going to LeDee this season. Too much standing around or simply running around - aimlessly. Depends on the cast of players. They "system" that Flynn directed worked out enough that he was an All-American and 1st round NBA draft pick. |
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Post by mfaulkhof2011 on Apr 5, 2024 14:43:03 GMT -8
Butler needs to do what Sasser did from Alabama. He reportedly shot 28% from three his freshmen year. Then after that year between the end and the beginning of his sophomore year he MADE 15,000 threes that summer. That wasn't attempts but makes. After a slow start in their last game he had 6 straight makes from three. I think Butler needs to get away from the outside voices from camps and NBA tryouts and just get reps. Gotta believe he could get some coaching from Kawhi's shooting coach that worked with him after SDSU. Then it is all up to him to put up shots. From May through September he has 150 days. That's 100 made threes a day for 15,000. It's doable if he wants it and what he needs. Mark Sears. Correct. Still would like to see him spending time putting up shots and less time listening to outside noise. Everyone knows what he needs to do to get drafted. Needs a minimum 38% from three and 75% from the free throw line to get a sniff of the NBA. |
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Post by zurac315 on Apr 5, 2024 15:00:38 GMT -8
Sounds like if he doesn't like what the NBA scouts have to say he will return to school. I think he will hear the same thing he heard a year ago, he needs to work on his offense. The question will be can he get that in our offensive system or does he need to go to a different system like Keshad Any theories on why K. Johnson shot 3s so much better in Arizona? |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 5, 2024 15:36:41 GMT -8
yes that is the decision Lamont and his family have to decide - what do they think is best for him - toss in if the NIL money is important or getting his Masters ( think his mother is a strong advocate on education ) Think Keshad is or will be back from Slam Dunk contest and they will spend some time together . How much of a benefit was it for Keshad at Arizona and did it make it him a possible being drafted into the NBA ? Lamont really plays hard on defense - and it may take a toll on his shooting - as the legs relate to a person's shooting - same as it may do on others Matt B Matt Bradley first year at SDSU had 1.1 less points then at Cal. He Ast went up same as rebounds. So the playing hard on defense didn’t have any effect to his shooting. Especially since SDSU typically runs a slower pace offense. You really over simplify things with this statement. Other things led to Bradley's success here and the most important is that he was still a featured scorer on offense. Butler hasn't been the featured scorer. But, he is a shut down guard on defense and that does take a lot of effort. I think even more so for guards. |
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Post by smoothcat on Apr 5, 2024 17:13:48 GMT -8
I’m sure he can make more NIL money than he can in the G League or overseas G League players are guaranteed a base salary of $40,500 throughout a 50-game regular season. There's potential for higher earnings through NIL opportunities at SDSU or elsewhere, it's crucial to acknowledge the necessity for Lamont refining skills, particularly in shooting the ball behind the arc, and at the line. Looking at the experiences of players like X Thames and Jeremy Hemsley, both of whom faced challenges in remaining in the G League or playing overseas, underscores the importance of shooting & skills development. On the other hand, Jordan Schakel's notable three-year tenure in the G League, coupled with his nearly 40% accuracy from beyond the arc, highlights the significance of consistent performance. Despite my utmost admiration for Lamont, it's essential to recognize the hard journey toward NBA success—it's no easy feat. But, I wish him all the luck and best wishes on whatever path he chooses. The strange thing also is that his form isn't terrible, for instance the all time Aztec basketball shot vs FAU was a gorgeous set up, form and release. And he generally takes good shots. The problem is for some reason he just doesn't make enough of them and the FT shooting is not the level needed for a star guard. So he seemingly could drastically improve that at some point, I remember being at games at Viejas where people groaned when Kawhi took an outside shot and now he is a fantastic shooter. |
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