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Post by AzTex on Mar 31, 2024 10:45:31 GMT -8
The mythical fence has been talked about since at least the 80’s. It hasn’t worked. I think it goes back to even the Air days, but that’s not my lane. I just don’t think investing a ton of recruiting time in SD makes sense. Maybe I’m wrong. It won’t be the first nor the last time. This is a message board it's all about opinions and yours is usually really good. In this instance, it is too. Here are my equally as fallible ideas. Whatever building the fence actually means, recent changes to the world make figuring out how to recruit SoCal very important for State. 1.Covid had a huge impact on young people and staying close to family for some is more important than it was prior. This is true in general. 2. NIL means there's fewer spots for high school players so in theory, that should have a trickle down to a place like SDSU that should be about development. 3. This is more theory but something to keep an eye on. Life for a CA kid in the Big 10, ACC, & Big XII won't be as good as it was in the Pac-12. Football circles are small and if those places develop a negative rep, SDSU needs to be an alternative. Additionally, weak local recruiting attempts are a wet blanket to building momentum and filling Snapdragon. IMO, they should be able to canvas California as well as any school in the nation and until they do, that should be their priority. I don't think NIL affects the number of spots available for high school players. The additional Covid year did. If you mean that NIL and the new transfer rules result in fewer spots for high school players at the power schools, I'd agree. That's what might be where we pickup some players who wouldn't otherwise be available. |
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Post by standiego on Mar 31, 2024 22:03:52 GMT -8
The Transfer Portal and NIL have dramatically changed recruiting - used to be that schools formed their foundation with HS players - who usually were there until they finished their college football . Now guys can transfer every year if they are not happy with PT or NIL Deal
So coaches have to really be able to communicate with their guys and keep recruiting them every year - especially with the calling of P5 schools and then the different NIL offers
HS players are going to do what it takes to better their chances or dreams of getting to the NFL .
Guys are not going to stay closer to home if they can get into a P5 school ( yes next season it could be P4 or Super P2 then lower P2 )
Getting 5 star recruits is not that likely to happen unless there is an incredible bond established or NIL has found a deep pockets person
Can SDSU now out recruit BSU - Fresno - OSU - WSU even Las Vegas has made moves
New HC has made some good moves and got a few guys - in the current class - is it better then other MW schools - only time will tell and can SDSU keep them
Agree that exciting play can be very attractive - as it has been with BSU -Fresno - because they have a creative offense and decent OL . Can SDSU do that we are all hoping and waiting
Win games in an exciting way and yeas you attract quality guys - and quality guys win games
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Post by aztecpaulg on Apr 1, 2024 7:05:02 GMT -8
This is a message board it's all about opinions and yours is usually really good. In this instance, it is too. Here are my equally as fallible ideas. Whatever building the fence actually means, recent changes to the world make figuring out how to recruit SoCal very important for State. 1.Covid had a huge impact on young people and staying close to family for some is more important than it was prior. This is true in general. 2. NIL means there's fewer spots for high school players so in theory, that should have a trickle down to a place like SDSU that should be about development. 3. This is more theory but something to keep an eye on. Life for a CA kid in the Big 10, ACC, & Big XII won't be as good as it was in the Pac-12. Football circles are small and if those places develop a negative rep, SDSU needs to be an alternative. Additionally, weak local recruiting attempts are a wet blanket to building momentum and filling Snapdragon. IMO, they should be able to canvas California as well as any school in the nation and until they do, that should be their priority. I don't think NIL affects the number of spots available for high school players. The additional Covid year did. If you mean that NIL and the new transfer rules result in fewer spots for high school players at the power schools, I'd agree. That's what might be where we pickup some players who wouldn't otherwise be available. You're right I should have written NIL and the transfer portal |
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Post by aztecpaulg on Apr 1, 2024 7:15:04 GMT -8
This is a message board it's all about opinions and yours is usually really good. In this instance, it is too. Here are my equally as fallible ideas. Whatever building the fence actually means, recent changes to the world make figuring out how to recruit SoCal very important for State. 1.Covid had a huge impact on young people and staying close to family for some is more important than it was prior. This is true in general. 2. NIL means there's fewer spots for high school players so in theory, that should have a trickle down to a place like SDSU that should be about development. 3. This is more theory but something to keep an eye on. Life for a CA kid in the Big 10, ACC, & Big XII won't be as good as it was in the Pac-12. Football circles are small and if those places develop a negative rep, SDSU needs to be an alternative. Additionally, weak local recruiting attempts are a wet blanket to building momentum and filling Snapdragon. IMO, they should be able to canvas California as well as any school in the nation and until they do, that should be their priority. You are absolutely right that the recruiting game has changed. COVID did disrupt how we live our lives and the NIL with the Transfer portal has forever changed recruiting. I haven't given much thought to these impacts. I understand that there are a lot of people that still view how things clouded with the past. I absolutely agree that CA recruiting should be the focus, just don't lean into San Diego. However, you have me thinking. It is true that JUCO recruiting doesn't happen in the DI era very often anymore, they were first casualty of the transfer market. The JUCO's have lost out to the FCS squads. And I believe you are eluding to the fact that HS recruiting may be entering into phase where the numbers for those recruits will be diminished as well for FBS. As I sit here this am, I agree, and thus believe even more so that any sense of a fence with NIL and open transfers is fool's gold. The absolute beasts of DT's for UCLA were the twins from North Texas. We shall find out what percentage of HS recruits / Transfers will emerge, but I suspect for State it will lean more towards Transfers. State is near the top of the heap of the G5 for desirability for football and basketball. State's recruiting grounds may be shifting to the MAC, SBELT, CUSA, AAC, MW, and Low level power teams. It may make more sense to understand this map more than the HS recruiting.  The landscape is still shifting significantly and when it stops to form the new normal is anyone's guess. To this point, transfers to SDSU have come from two sources, FBS players who didn't really play much at their previous school or FCS players who were significant contributors. Personally, I'm not sure that's a winning formula for building a great roster. Questions I am paying attention to ... - If the Juco ranks are the losers, does that mean State could bring in a higher quality JC players than before all the changes? - For those who miss NIL money elsewhere, does the thought of early playing time in order to maximize NIL opportunities elsewhere mean better recruits will be coming to SDSU? - What role does development play? Typically, a redshirt sophomore was the ideal time for a star to develop, but now that player is so valuable because they are veterans, have playing time, and have multiple years of eligibility. |
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Post by AzTex on Apr 1, 2024 9:09:05 GMT -8
I don't think NIL affects the number of spots available for high school players. The additional Covid year did. If you mean that NIL and the new transfer rules result in fewer spots for high school players at the power schools, I'd agree. That's what might be where we pickup some players who wouldn't otherwise be available. You're right I should have written NIL and the transfer portal You are forgiven my son.  |
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