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Post by sdaztec4life on Mar 30, 2024 11:19:14 GMT -8
With 2023/2024 now officially behind us and the 2024/2025 season upon us, it's time to delve into Aztec Roster eligibility. Firmly, we find ourselves with just one vacant roster spot, pending the potential returns of Lamont Butler and Micah Parrish to the Mesa. Reese Waters has already confirmed his return to the red and black, adding to our roster solidity. So, as of today we only have a single spot for a transfer, however, we could get to as many as three new players, or more. Only time will tell. 1 year remaining (if they choose)1. Lamont Butler PG 6'2" 2. Micah Parrish SG/F 6'6" 3. Reese Waters SG/F 6'6" 2 years remaining 4. Myles Bird SG/F 6'7" 5. Elijah Saunders PF 6'8" 6. Demarshay Johnson PF/C 6'9" 3 years remaining7. Miles Hiede PF/C 6'10" 8. BJ Davis PG 6'1 4 years remaining9. Pharoah Compton PF 6'8" 10. Tag Degourville CG 6'5" 11. Thokbor Majak PF/C 7'0" 12. Magoon Gwath PF/C 7'0" Remaining spot13. ---- TBD ---- Curious where you have seen that Waters has confirmed he is coming back (I fully expect it, but just haven't seen in print yet). There's a thread on it. UT article by Zeigler wrote on it a few weeks ago..
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Post by hoobs on Mar 30, 2024 11:49:06 GMT -8
Yeah, but "confirmed his return" is not at all accurate. Waters said he will go pro or return to SDSU. So... *probably* will return? Yes. "Confirmed"? No.
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Post by Gundo on Mar 30, 2024 11:56:05 GMT -8
Yeah, but "confirmed his return" is not at all accurate. Waters said he would go pro or return to SDSU. So... *probably* will return? Yes. "Confirmed"? No. My bad, thank you for clarifying. I am pretty confident that Reese will rejoin the team in 2024-25, wearing the Red & Black of the SDSU Aztecs all signs seem to be pointing in that direction.
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Post by junior on Mar 30, 2024 12:00:55 GMT -8
Any or all of the following: Johnson, Davis, Waters, Parrish, and Butler should be thanked profusely for their contributions and encouraged to move on. Johnson has shown nothing in his admittedly small number of minutes, but he's not worth much more of a flyer. Davis? He hasn't shown much either. And unless his name is Steph Curry, we really don't need any more small guards on the Aztecs who can't score baskets. Butler has regressed, Parrish has plateaued, and for whatever reasons, Waters just couldn't play a whole season.
The first years and redshirts are a crapshoot. They haven't even seen real game action at this level besides playing as the practice squad. So they get a pass until they get some actual PT.
That's five possible spots that could be open, but Dutch and his assistants are loyal to their players, which is how it should be. … players can also make decisions, and some of these guys need to decide to vamoose.
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Post by fisherville on Mar 30, 2024 12:02:23 GMT -8
A more current comparison would be 7'1" C/F Chet Holmgren formerly of Gonzaga and in the NBA today. He weighs 208lbs which is probably Gwath's maximum weight, given his build. The only question I have with Gwath now is whether he has soft hands when rebounding. That was Heide's problem earlier, but he corrected it the more he played. Chet has largely played center in nba.
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Post by hoobs on Mar 30, 2024 12:20:23 GMT -8
I think Wemby has also been moved to mostly playing Center.
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Post by aztech on Mar 30, 2024 12:22:03 GMT -8
Any or all of the following: Johnson, Davis, Waters, Parrish, and Butler should be thanked profusely for their contributions and encouraged to move on. Johnson has shown nothing in his admittedly small number of minutes, but he's not worth much more of a flyer. Davis? He hasn't shown much either. And unless his name is Steph Curry, we really don't need any more small guards on the Aztecs who can't score baskets. Butler has regressed, Parrish has plateaued, and for whatever reasons, Waters just couldn't play a whole season. The first years and redshirts are a crapshoot. They haven't even seen real game action at this level besides playing as the practice squad. So they get a pass until they get some actual PT.That's five possible spots that could be open, but Dutch and his assistants are loyal to their players, which is how it should be. But players can also make decisions, and some of these guys need to decide to vamoose. The big picture is determining whether they have what it takes to compete in MM, in the long run. That expectation is what our program is all about, now. The other conference teams only hope they can get there so they freak out whenever they lose a game. So do we, but hopefully most of us do look beyond it.
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Post by docmm on Mar 30, 2024 12:34:35 GMT -8
Any or all of the following: Johnson, Davis, Waters, Parrish, and Butler should be thanked profusely for their contributions and encouraged to move on. Johnson has shown nothing in his admittedly small number of minutes, but he's not worth much more of a flyer. Davis? He hasn't shown much either. And unless his name is Steph Curry, we really don't need any more small guards on the Aztecs who can't score baskets. Butler has regressed, Parrish has plateaued, and for whatever reasons, Waters just couldn't play a whole season. The first years and redshirts are a crapshoot. They haven't even seen real game action at this level besides playing as the practice squad. So they get a pass until they get some actual PT. That's five possible spots that could be open, but Dutch and his assistants are loyal to their players, which is how it should be. … players can also make decisions, and some of these guys need to decide to vamoose. He was never given the opportunity. It would be just stupid to punt on him before he has a chance to play. BTW, he's 6'2". That's not tiny for a PG. I don't think you give up on Waters yet either. Getting 5 new guys and incorporating them into the mix would be a tall task and unnecessary.
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Post by jdaztec on Mar 30, 2024 12:40:23 GMT -8
If healthy for a full season I believe Waters can be a dominant player. I am excited to see what he can do next year. I do believe offensively Butler regressed but defensively he was outstanding. I would like to see him come back next year with a different supporting cast and him playing a slightly different role. If he could continue to defend just as well, shoot just a little more consistently and we could find more opportunities for him to drive when paired with a real point guard he could be really good.
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Post by waxxon on Mar 30, 2024 13:17:32 GMT -8
Just my observation. Coach Dutcher and Fisher before him have always recruited to build a roster and program. Picking up a player here or there to fill a gap, not clearing out the lineup and replacing with high flying names. Players either develop their game and play or sit back and watch or transfer if they seek playing time somewhere else. That is the culture they have nurtured here and has proven successful over the last 15 years. Go Aztecs
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Post by sdaztec4life on Mar 30, 2024 14:25:34 GMT -8
Yeah, but "confirmed his return" is not at all accurate. Waters said he will go pro or return to SDSU. So... *probably* will return? Yes. "Confirmed"? No. I’m a betting man, Waters will NOT go Pro anywhere!
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Post by uncledougy on Mar 30, 2024 14:31:43 GMT -8
For some unknown reason I got the feeling that Butler had one foot out the door towards the end of the season.
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Post by FinalFourJoe on Mar 30, 2024 14:37:37 GMT -8
Agree with waxxon. I'm liking the roster already next year. Looks to be very tall: Gwath, Heide, Compton, Saunders, Byrd, Johnson(?). Waters is a SG in that lineup. If Dutcher likes Davis taking over the point, bring it on. Maybe need a one-year PG to let Davis work into larger minutes later. Can't wait to see what the duo of Saunders & Byrd do with larger roles. This will be their team.
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Post by aztecmichael on Mar 30, 2024 14:41:47 GMT -8
For some unknown reason I got the feeling that Butler had one foot out the door towards the end of the season. Completely untrue. In fact nobody played harder while getting blown out than Lamont. I don’t know if you know him or his family but Lamont was all in all the time He also was the player of The game against UAB.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 30, 2024 14:48:41 GMT -8
For some unknown reason I got the feeling that Butler had one foot out the door towards the end of the season. Completely untrue. In fact nobody played harder while getting blown out than Lamont. I don’t know if you know him or his family but Lamont was all in all the time He also was the player of The game against UAB. I don't know him or his family, but I believe I've watched enough basketball by this time in my life to tell if a player's giving his best effort. I certainly didn't see Butler slacking off in any way. All in all the time is a great description.
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Post by haleiwaaztec on Mar 30, 2024 14:54:56 GMT -8
Any or all of the following: Johnson, Davis, Waters, Parrish, and Butler should be thanked profusely for their contributions and encouraged to move on. Johnson has shown nothing in his admittedly small number of minutes, but he's not worth much more of a flyer. Davis? He hasn't shown much either. And unless his name is Steph Curry, we really don't need any more small guards on the Aztecs who can't score baskets. Butler has regressed, Parrish has plateaued, and for whatever reasons, Waters just couldn't play a whole season. The first years and redshirts are a crapshoot. They haven't even seen real game action at this level besides playing as the practice squad. So they get a pass until they get some actual PT. That's five possible spots that could be open, but Dutch and his assistants are loyal to their players, which is how it should be. … players can also make decisions, and some of these guys need to decide to vamoose. This is not a very good take AT ALL. You are going to give up on BJ Davis before he even gets a chance to play because he is ONLY 6'2" - he was a 4 star recruit (129 overall) based on this site - 247sports.com/player/bj-davis-46129824/. What was your opinion of Miles Byrd at this time last year? He was a true freshman PG on a top 20 team that had 2 veteran PGs on the roster...what did you expect from him this season? ...and why would you NOT take Butler back for a 5 season...he is 2x defensive player of the year in conference and really did play well of late offensively. Parrish's 3 point shooting went down but his previous years show he is a better shooter than that and also a great defender and I wouldn't give up on Waters yet, he started the season great and maybe just never recovered from the ankle injury or just lost his confidence. Also a good defender. The other factor with all these players is they have 2-4 years already in the system/culture.
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Post by bobcooper84 on Mar 30, 2024 15:06:17 GMT -8
For some unknown reason I got the feeling that Butler had one foot out the door towards the end of the season. I felt the same..... To me, he looked more relieved than disappointed that the season ended...(post UCONN game) I hope we're wrong!
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 30, 2024 15:21:54 GMT -8
Any or all of the following: Johnson, Davis, Waters, Parrish, and Butler should be thanked profusely for their contributions and encouraged to move on. Johnson has shown nothing in his admittedly small number of minutes, but he's not worth much more of a flyer. Davis? He hasn't shown much either. And unless his name is Steph Curry, we really don't need any more small guards on the Aztecs who can't score baskets. Butler has regressed, Parrish has plateaued, and for whatever reasons, Waters just couldn't play a whole season. The first years and redshirts are a crapshoot. They haven't even seen real game action at this level besides playing as the practice squad. So they get a pass until they get some actual PT. That's five possible spots that could be open, but Dutch and his assistants are loyal to their players, which is how it should be. … players can also make decisions, and some of these guys need to decide to vamoose. This is not a very good take AT ALL. You are going to give up on BJ Davis before he even gets a chance to play because he is ONLY 6'2" - he was a 4 star recruit (129 overall) based on this site - 247sports.com/player/bj-davis-46129824/. What was your opinion of Miles Byrd at this time last year? He was a true freshman PG on a top 20 team that had 2 veteran PGs on the roster...what did you expect from him this season? ...and why would you NOT take Butler back for a 5 season...he is 2x defensive player of the year in conference and really did play well of late offensively. Parrish's 3 point shooting went down but his previous years show he is a better shooter than that and also a great defender and I wouldn't give up on Waters yet, he started the season great and maybe just never recovered from the ankle injury or just lost his confidence. Also a good defender. The other factor with all these players is they have 2-4 years already in the system/culture. Johnson probably should transfer, I think it's mutually beneficial for him and us. It wouldn't be the end of the world if Parrish transferred. I definitely want Byrd to start over Parrish next year if Parrish comes back. We could use a Matt Bradley type player from the portal. Hopefully Gwath is as good as advertised. Maybe there is a late bloomer prospect type in HS that we can uncover, someone with size and skill, like Gwath last year.
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Post by zurac315 on Mar 30, 2024 17:38:50 GMT -8
We lose major points next year with Ledee gone. Who is likely to make up for the loss?
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Post by Gundo on Mar 30, 2024 17:52:20 GMT -8
For some unknown reason, I got the feeling that Butler had one foot out the door towards the end of the season. Lamont played well in March. UNLV - 10 Points 2 Boards 4 Assists BSU - 13 Points 6 Boards 2 Assists UNLV - 12 Points 3 Boards 3 Assists Utah State - 16 Points 5 Boards 3 Assists New Mex - 7 Points 0 Boards 3 Assists UAB - 15 Points 3 Boards 4 Assists Yale - 9 Points 1 Boards 3 Assists UConn - 7 Points 2 Boards 6 Assists Averaged 10.5 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 4.0 APG
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