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Post by uwphoto on Jan 31, 2023 21:14:41 GMT -8
Sorry, but I have to jump in here. I think it's mostly about power. If you know a few cops, and I do, when they get together you hear a lot of discussion about "perps" "dirtbags" etc. Since they deal with criminals and the fringe of society in many cases, there is a jaded view on humanity that develops. So, if you are pulled over, or have an encounter with police, depending on factors like how you are dressed, yes..possibly your race, the way you respond, if you are mentally disabled..you can easily slide into the "perp" or "dirtbag" designation. Once this happens, a bad result may occur. I myself had a horrible encounter with County Sheriff in a very remote part of the Anza-Borrego. I was on a filming job for a client and needed to relieve myself. It was 7am and there was nobody on the road. So I went down a slope and took a piss. Out of the corner of my eye, I see a big sheriff's SUV with a dog warning on the door. This 5'6" guy comes flying down to where I am and starts dropping f-bombs in my face. "Get the f x x x out of my valley, and don't ever let me see you again"! The guy was literally screaming in my face for 10 minutes. All I did was keep my mouth shut and hand him my license. Luckily, my neighbor was in the car, so I had a witness. I called Internal Affairs that afternoon, and told them I had to finish my job. They were apologetic and said go back to work. I later found out he had a bad reputation, and had been put out in the desert from the downtown jail assignment. I am convinced to this day, that he was losing it and was baiting me so he could hurt me. Oh, for sure. He probably missed effing with people while being reassigned to the dessert and was frothing at the mouth to get in a confrontation with you. I had a situation when, at the time, I was in construction and I got pulled over by a motorcycle cop for not having covers over my fog lamps on my truck, in which he told me this after the fact. He made me get out of my truck immediately, and put my hands on the hood of the truck, all the while I'm asking him what I did, to no avail. He asked me if I had any weapons on me and I said no. He started frisking me, and he found a razor blade knife that I used to cut plastic, and he promptly went berserk. He started swearing at me, saying, "I thought you told me you didn't have any weapons on you!!!" All the while he's kicking my legs apart further and further, going nuts. I kept saying it's a work tool!!! The end result was a ticket. I told him I was going to report him. I never did. Oh yeah, he was about 5'6, as well. There might be a common theme there, if you know what I mean. Having said that. There's good and bad people all over this world, and there's A LOT of people that should NEVER have any authority whatsoever. The two we talked fits that description, for sure. I definitely believe that what some Officers encounter, very bad people, can make them jaded. It's too bad, because it makes the good ones, look bad. haha..maybe they were the same guy!!!! |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 31, 2023 21:19:22 GMT -8
Sorry, but I have to jump in here. I think it's mostly about power. If you know a few cops, and I do, when they get together you hear a lot of discussion about "perps" "dirtbags" etc. Since they deal with criminals and the fringe of society in many cases, there is a jaded view on humanity that develops. So, if you are pulled over, or have an encounter with police, depending on factors like how you are dressed, yes..possibly your race, the way you respond, if you are mentally disabled..you can easily slide into the "perp" or "dirtbag" designation. Once this happens, a bad result may occur. I myself had a horrible encounter with County Sheriff in a very remote part of the Anza-Borrego. I was on a filming job for a client and needed to relieve myself. It was 7am and there was nobody on the road. So I went down a slope and took a piss. Out of the corner of my eye, I see a big sheriff's SUV with a dog warning on the door. This 5'6" guy comes flying down to where I am and starts dropping f-bombs in my face. "Get the f x x x out of my valley, and don't ever let me see you again"! The guy was literally screaming in my face for 10 minutes. All I did was keep my mouth shut and hand him my license. Luckily, my neighbor was in the car, so I had a witness. I called Internal Affairs that afternoon, and told them I had to finish my job. They were apologetic and said go back to work. I later found out he had a bad reputation, and had been put out in the desert from the downtown jail assignment. I am convinced to this day, that he was losing it and was baiting me so he could hurt me. Oh, for sure. He probably missed effing with people while being reassigned to the dessert and was frothing at the mouth to get in a confrontation with you. I had a situation when, at the time, I was in construction and I got pulled over by a motorcycle cop for not having covers over my fog lamps on my truck, in which he told me this after the fact. He made me get out of my truck immediately, and put my hands on the hood of the truck, all the while I'm asking him what I did, to no avail. He asked me if I had any weapons on me and I said no. He started frisking me, and he found a razor blade knife that I used to cut plastic, and he promptly went berserk. He started swearing at me, saying, "I thought you told me you didn't have any weapons on you!!!" All the while he's kicking my legs apart further and further, going nuts. I kept saying it's a work tool!!! The end result was a ticket. I told him I was going to report him. I never did. Oh yeah, he was about 5'6, as well. There might be a common theme there, if you know what I mean. Having said that. There's good and bad people all over this world, and there's A LOT of people that should NEVER have any authority whatsoever. The two we talked fits that description, for sure. I definitely believe that what some Officers encounter, very bad people, can make them jaded. It's too bad, because it makes the good ones, look bad. ps...once you've had an experience like mine and the one you describe, you see easily how things could go south very quickly...with just the wrong response or movement. |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 31, 2023 22:28:29 GMT -8
Oh, for sure. He probably missed effing with people while being reassigned to the dessert and was frothing at the mouth to get in a confrontation with you. I had a situation when, at the time, I was in construction and I got pulled over by a motorcycle cop for not having covers over my fog lamps on my truck, in which he told me this after the fact. He made me get out of my truck immediately, and put my hands on the hood of the truck, all the while I'm asking him what I did, to no avail. He asked me if I had any weapons on me and I said no. He started frisking me, and he found a razor blade knife that I used to cut plastic, and he promptly went berserk. He started swearing at me, saying, "I thought you told me you didn't have any weapons on you!!!" All the while he's kicking my legs apart further and further, going nuts. I kept saying it's a work tool!!! The end result was a ticket. I told him I was going to report him. I never did. Oh yeah, he was about 5'6, as well. There might be a common theme there, if you know what I mean. Having said that. There's good and bad people all over this world, and there's A LOT of people that should NEVER have any authority whatsoever. The two we talked fits that description, for sure. I definitely believe that what some Officers encounter, very bad people, can make them jaded. It's too bad, because it makes the good ones, look bad. haha..maybe they were the same guy!!!! Ha!!! |
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Post by johneaztec on Jan 31, 2023 22:30:22 GMT -8
Oh, for sure. He probably missed effing with people while being reassigned to the dessert and was frothing at the mouth to get in a confrontation with you. I had a situation when, at the time, I was in construction and I got pulled over by a motorcycle cop for not having covers over my fog lamps on my truck, in which he told me this after the fact. He made me get out of my truck immediately, and put my hands on the hood of the truck, all the while I'm asking him what I did, to no avail. He asked me if I had any weapons on me and I said no. He started frisking me, and he found a razor blade knife that I used to cut plastic, and he promptly went berserk. He started swearing at me, saying, "I thought you told me you didn't have any weapons on you!!!" All the while he's kicking my legs apart further and further, going nuts. I kept saying it's a work tool!!! The end result was a ticket. I told him I was going to report him. I never did. Oh yeah, he was about 5'6, as well. There might be a common theme there, if you know what I mean. Having said that. There's good and bad people all over this world, and there's A LOT of people that should NEVER have any authority whatsoever. The two we talked fits that description, for sure. I definitely believe that what some Officers encounter, very bad people, can make them jaded. It's too bad, because it makes the good ones, look bad. ps...once you've had an experience like mine and the one you describe, you see easily how things could go south very quickly...with just the wrong response or movement. For sure. I believe there are some cops out there who join the Force to have a chance to get back at people for all the bullying they took when they were younger, unfortunately. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Feb 1, 2023 8:44:57 GMT -8
But, based on a number of well documented statistics for Asians, for example, in the USA like median income, life expectancy and education level, "white privilege" has seemingly been passed up. Asians even do better by percentage than whites in surviving encounters with the police - why? CRT, which is the basis of the "systemic white supremacy" and "white privilege" claims should, if it is at all correct, predict this outcome. Of course, it doesn't and the absurdity of it is obvious to all save for those invested in its perpetuation. Outcomes occur as they do for a million reasons. Your parents loved and aided you and your siblings as much the same as they could. Question - are the outcomes for your and all your sibling's life identical? Of course not but there is no overt or systemic fault with your parents for those outcomes. Because men are killed by cops more often and at a higher rates than women, are we to assume that cops are, at their core, misandrists? No. Similar false cause and effect fallacies are used to back arguments for CRT and are utter nonsense. And, if you point it out, the proponents of CRT use circular logic, protected by the Kafka trap, in which objections to CRT are treated as proof of racism, to shut down debate. Power corrupts. Prosecute the abuse of power. This tired argument? Again? Yes, congratulations, cherrypicking one race/culture out of the sea (selective bias?) that is inherently different from all the rest is validation and proof..of nothing. You can talk yourself in circles without care for fact. Cherry picking and circles indeed. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 1, 2023 9:32:39 GMT -8
Very true. Where is that same demonstrative outrage from BLM, etc.... Oh yeah, because they weren't white police officers. So predictable. There was no need for "demonstrative outrage" because the powers that be immediately arrested and charged the officers...they didn't dink around...they didn't attempt to besmirch the victim...slow roll the investigation etc... You posted that this incident has nothing to do with race...and pretty much chalked it up to "Black on Black" crime...you know they are...even if they are law enforcement...you posted that there is no white privilege because "We are ALL privileged"...ok...so why does this always seem to happen to one specific race if this sort of thing is equal opportunity?...maybe your assumption is it happens because Blacks commit the most crime...the most violent crimes...and once in a while...a few innocent people in the "Black" community get caught up... Arrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2019"In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black or African American...." "Of all adults arrested in 2019, 69.9 percent were White, 26.1 percent were Black or African American...." " White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1 percent of those arrests." "Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White." Eighty-eight (88) percent of the time...it was white on white crime. ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43So, by these stats...we should be seeing a higher incident of police brutality against whites based on their propensity to commit violent crimes...and crime in general...but we don't...why?...could it be white privilege?... The American social construction has always discounted Black lives...it has always associated Blacks with crime...it has primed/conditioned Americans to devalue Blacks...especially young Black men...so when incidents like Nichols occurs...the public is desensitized to their brutality and death...it's been this way since slavery...where the "slave patrols" (police)...used brutality to keep those Blacks on the plantation in line.... How the U.S. Got Its Police Force"In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system. Some of the primary policing institutions there were the slave patrols tasked with chasing down runaways and preventing slave revolts, Potter says; the first formal slave patrol had been created in the Carolina colonies in 1704. During the Civil War, the military became the primary form of law enforcement in the South, but during Reconstruction, many local sheriffs functioned in a way analogous to the earlier slave patrols, enforcing segregation and the disenfranchisement of freed slaves." time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/It's always been about race...and white's justification of killing, maiming, and brutality against Blacks...today is just an extension of the past..... |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 9:44:21 GMT -8
This tired argument? Again? Yes, congratulations, cherrypicking one race/culture out of the sea (selective bias?) that is inherently different from all the rest is validation and proof..of nothing. You can talk yourself in circles without care for fact. Cherry picking and circles indeed. (Canned laughter inserted here) |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 10:09:18 GMT -8
Very true. Where is that same demonstrative outrage from BLM, etc.... Oh yeah, because they weren't white police officers. So predictable. There was no need for "demonstrative outrage" because the powers that be immediately arrested and charged the officers...they didn't dink around...they didn't attempt to besmirch the victim...slow roll the investigation etc... You posted that this incident has nothing to do with race...and pretty much chalked it up to "Black on Black" crime...you know they are...even if they are law enforcement...you posted that there is no white privilege because "We are ALL privileged"...ok...so why does this always seem to happen to one specific race if this sort of thing is equal opportunity?...maybe your assumption is it happens because Blacks commit the most crime...the most violent crimes...and once in a while...a few innocent people in the "Black" community get caught up... Arrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2019"In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black or African American...." "Of all adults arrested in 2019, 69.9 percent were White, 26.1 percent were Black or African American...." " White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1 percent of those arrests." "Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White." Eighty-eight (88) percent of the time...it was white on white crime. ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43So, by these stats...we should be seeing a higher incident of police brutality against whites based on their propensity to commit violent crimes...and crime in general...but we don't...why?...could it be white privilege?... The American social construction has always discounted Black lives...it has always associated Blacks with crime...it has primed/conditioned Americans to devalue Blacks...especially young Black men...so when incidents like Nichols occurs...the public is desensitized to their brutality and death...it's been this way since slavery...where the "slave patrols" (police)...used brutality to keep those Blacks on the plantation in line.... How the U.S. Got Its Police Force"In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system. Some of the primary policing institutions there were the slave patrols tasked with chasing down runaways and preventing slave revolts, Potter says; the first formal slave patrol had been created in the Carolina colonies in 1704. During the Civil War, the military became the primary form of law enforcement in the South, but during Reconstruction, many local sheriffs functioned in a way analogous to the earlier slave patrols, enforcing segregation and the disenfranchisement of freed slaves." time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/It's always been about race...and white's justification of killing, maiming, and brutality against Blacks...today is just an extension of the past..... I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 10:12:12 GMT -8
There was no need for "demonstrative outrage" because the powers that be immediately arrested and charged the officers...they didn't dink around...they didn't attempt to besmirch the victim...slow roll the investigation etc... You posted that this incident has nothing to do with race...and pretty much chalked it up to "Black on Black" crime...you know they are...even if they are law enforcement...you posted that there is no white privilege because "We are ALL privileged"...ok...so why does this always seem to happen to one specific race if this sort of thing is equal opportunity?...maybe your assumption is it happens because Blacks commit the most crime...the most violent crimes...and once in a while...a few innocent people in the "Black" community get caught up... Arrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2019"In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black or African American...." "Of all adults arrested in 2019, 69.9 percent were White, 26.1 percent were Black or African American...." " White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1 percent of those arrests." "Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White." Eighty-eight (88) percent of the time...it was white on white crime. ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43So, by these stats...we should be seeing a higher incident of police brutality against whites based on their propensity to commit violent crimes...and crime in general...but we don't...why?...could it be white privilege?... The American social construction has always discounted Black lives...it has always associated Blacks with crime...it has primed/conditioned Americans to devalue Blacks...especially young Black men...so when incidents like Nichols occurs...the public is desensitized to their brutality and death...it's been this way since slavery...where the "slave patrols" (police)...used brutality to keep those Blacks on the plantation in line.... How the U.S. Got Its Police Force"In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system. Some of the primary policing institutions there were the slave patrols tasked with chasing down runaways and preventing slave revolts, Potter says; the first formal slave patrol had been created in the Carolina colonies in 1704. During the Civil War, the military became the primary form of law enforcement in the South, but during Reconstruction, many local sheriffs functioned in a way analogous to the earlier slave patrols, enforcing segregation and the disenfranchisement of freed slaves." time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/It's always been about race...and white's justification of killing, maiming, and brutality against Blacks...today is just an extension of the past..... I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. Here we go again. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 1, 2023 10:22:36 GMT -8
There was no need for "demonstrative outrage" because the powers that be immediately arrested and charged the officers...they didn't dink around...they didn't attempt to besmirch the victim...slow roll the investigation etc... You posted that this incident has nothing to do with race...and pretty much chalked it up to "Black on Black" crime...you know they are...even if they are law enforcement...you posted that there is no white privilege because "We are ALL privileged"...ok...so why does this always seem to happen to one specific race if this sort of thing is equal opportunity?...maybe your assumption is it happens because Blacks commit the most crime...the most violent crimes...and once in a while...a few innocent people in the "Black" community get caught up... Arrests, by Race and Ethnicity, 2019"In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black or African American...." "Of all adults arrested in 2019, 69.9 percent were White, 26.1 percent were Black or African American...." " White individuals were arrested more often for violent crimes than individuals of any other race and accounted for 59.1 percent of those arrests." "Of juveniles arrested for drug abuse violations, 74.8 percent were White." Eighty-eight (88) percent of the time...it was white on white crime. ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43So, by these stats...we should be seeing a higher incident of police brutality against whites based on their propensity to commit violent crimes...and crime in general...but we don't...why?...could it be white privilege?... The American social construction has always discounted Black lives...it has always associated Blacks with crime...it has primed/conditioned Americans to devalue Blacks...especially young Black men...so when incidents like Nichols occurs...the public is desensitized to their brutality and death...it's been this way since slavery...where the "slave patrols" (police)...used brutality to keep those Blacks on the plantation in line.... How the U.S. Got Its Police Force"In the South, however, the economics that drove the creation of police forces were centered not on the protection of shipping interests but on the preservation of the slavery system. Some of the primary policing institutions there were the slave patrols tasked with chasing down runaways and preventing slave revolts, Potter says; the first formal slave patrol had been created in the Carolina colonies in 1704. During the Civil War, the military became the primary form of law enforcement in the South, but during Reconstruction, many local sheriffs functioned in a way analogous to the earlier slave patrols, enforcing segregation and the disenfranchisement of freed slaves." time.com/4779112/police-history-origins/It's always been about race...and white's justification of killing, maiming, and brutality against Blacks...today is just an extension of the past..... I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. There is nothing factual or evidence about what you wrote...just your narrow/privileged worldview.... |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 10:31:41 GMT -8
I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. There is nothing factual or evidence about what you wrote...just your narrow/privileged worldview.... Here are some facts: In 2022, reported incidents where race was known: Police involved shootings were 97.1% White, Black or Hispanic. 708 of the reported 729 known shootings, so there weren't a "lot of other races being hurt" by police. Per the Washington Post's database, tracked since 2015: Over 95% of police shooting victims are male, disproportionately Black and Hispanic males. Police killed the most people known on record in the year 2022. Black individuals are more than 2.1 times more likely to be shot and killed by police than White individuals. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 11:13:45 GMT -8
I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. Here we go again. Funny. Those are my exact thoughts at least once a day concerning you, and your repetitive rants, ad nauseam. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 11:25:26 GMT -8
Funny. Those are my exact thoughts at least once a day concerning you, and your repetitive rants, ad nauseam. Repetitive? All you've done is post vague, often incendiary (or outright false) statements here. Not a single fact. Not a single statistic. Nothing to back up anything you've said that can be proven one way or another....anywhere. You claim to look at "both sides" and then you both sides every....single.....thing. The only true thing you've said is "The senseless violence needs to stop." A simple Google search disproves the point in your previous post, like I already clarified. Your opinion about "demonstrative outrage" because there weren't a multitude of White officers involved just furthers a warped reality and counters the very thing you're trying to argue against. Key differences between George Floyd and Tyre Nichols: - One officer directly killed George Floyd. - The murder was filmed and posted while it was happening in real-time, not weeks after the fact. - Breonna Taylor's murder in Louisville was 60 days prior to George Floyd's and still a part of the national consciousness. - The investigations were completely different in nature; we didn't even hear about all the officers involved in Memphis until again, weeks after the murder happened. - George Floyd was killed during an already heightened sense of frustration and anger during the pandemic. While extraneous, the national pscyhe was already dealing with a ton of emotion and more of that just added fuel to the fire. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 11:37:57 GMT -8
I don't agree that there would not be more demonstrative/violent protests out there if they were all white police officers. It's missing that element and that's why the more severe outrage is not there, I also believe that there are A LOT of other races being beat and hurt by police officers that don't get the same media coverage. It's ALL horrible and reform needs to be taken place. These senseless acts need to be stopped. Period. There is nothing factual or evidence about what you wrote...just your narrow/privileged worldview.... There's absolutely evidence. Evidenced by what has happened in the past in these situations. That's what I'm going by, but of course you'll throw out the white privilege card. This was a horrible, horrible beating that took place. More so than the Floyd case, and others, but not the same violent protests. That's just ONE example. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 11:51:05 GMT -8
Funny. Those are my exact thoughts at least once a day concerning you, and your repetitive rants, ad nauseam. Repetitive? All you've done is post vague, often incendiary (or outright false) statements here. Not a single fact. Not a single statistic. Nothing to back up anything you've said that can be proven one way or another....anywhere. You claim to look at "both sides" and then you both sides every....single.....thing. The only true thing you've said is "The senseless violence needs to stop." A simple Google search disproves the point in your previous post, like I already clarified. Your opinion about "demonstrative outrage" because there weren't a multitude of White officers involved just furthers a warped reality and counters the very thing you're trying to argue against. Key differences between George Floyd and Tyre Nichols: - One officer directly killed George Floyd. - The murder was filmed and posted while it was happening in real-time, not weeks after the fact. - Breonna Taylor's murder in Louisville was 60 days prior to George Floyd's and still a part of the national consciousness. - The investigations were completely different in nature; we didn't even hear about all the officers involved in Memphis until again, weeks after the murder happened. - George Floyd was killed during an already heightened sense of frustration and anger during the pandemic. While extraneous, the national pscyhe was already dealing with a ton of emotion and more of that just added fuel to the fire. One subject. 15 videos. 15 quotes. All saying the same thing, but from different people. Yeah, repetitive. VERY repetitive. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 11:58:43 GMT -8
There is nothing factual or evidence about what you wrote...just your narrow/privileged worldview.... There's absolutely evidence. Evidenced by what has happened in the past in these situations. That's what I'm going by, but of course you'll throw out the white privilege card. This was a horrible, horrible beating that took place. More so than the Floyd case, and others, but not the same violent protests. That's just ONE example. Evidence that you can't display or point to. Saying there's evidence by what has happened in the past is a general, blanketed statement. What evidence? Worse than the Floyd case? Because it wasn't a beating? Because he died in nine minutes? You're using abstract thoughts to try to construct a perspective. What made the Floyd protests "worse"? You really think the nationwide demonstrations (which were largely not seen on the news) were because of one police officer who was White? |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 12:03:06 GMT -8
Repetitive? All you've done is post vague, often incendiary (or outright false) statements here. Not a single fact. Not a single statistic. Nothing to back up anything you've said that can be proven one way or another....anywhere. You claim to look at "both sides" and then you both sides every....single.....thing. The only true thing you've said is "The senseless violence needs to stop." A simple Google search disproves the point in your previous post, like I already clarified. Your opinion about "demonstrative outrage" because there weren't a multitude of White officers involved just furthers a warped reality and counters the very thing you're trying to argue against. Key differences between George Floyd and Tyre Nichols: - One officer directly killed George Floyd. - The murder was filmed and posted while it was happening in real-time, not weeks after the fact. - Breonna Taylor's murder in Louisville was 60 days prior to George Floyd's and still a part of the national consciousness. - The investigations were completely different in nature; we didn't even hear about all the officers involved in Memphis until again, weeks after the murder happened. - George Floyd was killed during an already heightened sense of frustration and anger during the pandemic. While extraneous, the national pscyhe was already dealing with a ton of emotion and more of that just added fuel to the fire. One subject. 15 videos. 15 quotes. All saying the same thing, but from different people. Yeah, repetitive. VERY repetitive. Those videos were posted to counteract your fallacies. Once they were posted, you just shifted more towards your opinions yet again. I'll take quotes and videos over the bogus statements you've provided throughout this thread. Weird that you didn't think the Shapiro quote and the Walsh quote (saying the identical thing) were repetitive at all....so maybe it's about your own political leanings and not repetition? Black Lives Matter. That shouldn't be a controversial statement, should it? |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 12:13:20 GMT -8
One subject. 15 videos. 15 quotes. All saying the same thing, but from different people. Yeah, repetitive. VERY repetitive. Those videos were posted to counteract your fallacies. Once they were posted, you just shifted more towards your opinions yet again. I'll take quotes and videos over the bogus statements you've provided throughout this thread. Weird that you didn't think the Shapiro quote and the Walsh quote (saying the identical thing) were repetitive at all....so maybe it's about your own political leanings and not repetition? Black Lives Matter. That shouldn't be a controversial statement, should it? Oh, no. I'm not talking just this thread. It's just about EVERY thread your in. In the political section, especially. |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 1, 2023 12:28:43 GMT -8
Those videos were posted to counteract your fallacies. Once they were posted, you just shifted more towards your opinions yet again. I'll take quotes and videos over the bogus statements you've provided throughout this thread. Weird that you didn't think the Shapiro quote and the Walsh quote (saying the identical thing) were repetitive at all....so maybe it's about your own political leanings and not repetition? Black Lives Matter. That shouldn't be a controversial statement, should it? Oh, no. I'm not talking just this thread. It's just about EVERY thread your in. In the political section, especially. Yes, because posting relevant quotes on the subject matter is...bad? Or do you just disagree with the source? Is this supposed to be some kind of revelatory shock or something? This is a message board, last I checked. You share...messages. I started this thread with a simple post and the first reply (yours, naturally) was: "And there are still some that want to make this a racial issue." Yeah, I'll take quotes and videos over that 24/7/365. |
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 1, 2023 17:05:53 GMT -8
Oh, no. I'm not talking just this thread. It's just about EVERY thread your in. In the political section, especially. Yes, because posting relevant quotes on the subject matter is...bad? Or do you just disagree with the source? Is this supposed to be some kind of revelatory shock or something? This is a message board, last I checked. You share...messages. I started this thread with a simple post and the first reply (yours, naturally) was: "And there are still some that want to make this a racial issue." Yeah, I'll take quotes and videos over that 24/7/365. Again, you post repetitive responses that say the same thing over and over and over..... We get what you're trying regurgitate already. And again, I'm talking about all the threads on the political board that you bombard. |
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