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Post by sdcoug on Jul 19, 2021 14:58:22 GMT -8
How so? Up above, Ken Rosenthal is talking about him playing GG caliber D. His walk rate is exceptional. Hes likely going to hit 40-45 bombs this year. Whats the issue? ?? Rosenthal is referring to Gallo, not Reyes, correct? You referred to Franmil & you yourself said he was a "below average fielder". IMO that's been too kind. Franmil is a TERRIBLE fielder.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2021 17:47:40 GMT -8
Oh! My bad, LOL. Duh.
Yes you’re right —-hes pretty lousy in the field.
I love his bat tho! (He just homered). Would be great in SD if the DH was around.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 19, 2021 18:55:28 GMT -8
I would also take Marte over Gallo. I don’t like guys who are lifetime .212 hitters, they never come through in the clutch. Marte is available, lifetime .287 hitter with speed and a gold glove.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 19, 2021 20:52:35 GMT -8
I would also take Marte over Gallo. I don’t like guys who are lifetime .212 hitters, they never come through in the clutch. Marte is available, lifetime .287 hitter with speed and a gold glove. Gallo is younger and better, also with a Gold Glove. He also fits the roster a bit better with the ability to play first. I like Starling, but he's a rental piece and he's not a spring chicken anymore. Gallo's ceiling is considerably higher.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 20, 2021 13:52:37 GMT -8
With Snell and Paddack struggling, Lamet and Weathers hurting Cleavenger out and Gore still fine tuning, look for the Padres to add some starting pitching. I still like Maeda (he would love to stick it to the Dodgers) or Dane Dunning.
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Post by junior on Jul 20, 2021 18:20:33 GMT -8
With their position in the race, and being in the Western Division, I don't see a way in for the Padres short of a WC game. With that assumption, maybe they should just sit on what they've got for now, don't give up anything for a short-term rental that likely won't really make a difference in the October Outcome.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 20, 2021 21:22:30 GMT -8
With their position in the race, and being in the Western Division, I don't see a way in for the Padres short of a WC game. With that assumption, maybe they should just sit on what they've got for now, don't give up anything for a short-term rental that likely won't really make a difference in the October Outcome. Good point. By that argument, a trade for Gallo makes the most sense because he has this year and next year, and he's a lineup upgrade (and we have Darvish + Musgrove as our aces). Trading for Gallo arguably gives us a better chance of winning the wild card game then trading for a starter. if you run Darvish out there for the WC game, then you go with Musgrove for G1 of the NLDS, maybe Weathers + Lamet back to back G2, then.... your G3 is Paddack, Snell, or a bullpen game? Not great options for G3. Then Darvish G4, Musgrove G5. Still decent enough to have a shot against the division winner (Dodgers or Giants) in the NLDS.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jul 20, 2021 23:52:29 GMT -8
With their position in the race, and being in the Western Division, I don't see a way in for the Padres short of a WC game. With that assumption, maybe they should just sit on what they've got for now, don't give up anything for a short-term rental that likely won't really make a difference in the October Outcome. Oh ye of little faith. 5/6 games back with 55 games remaining, the Division is theirs for the taking, very attainable. Preller needs to bring in 2 good starters. The lineup needs to get better at manufacturing runs when facing a tough starter and crushing vulnerable starters. Padres just need to show some…..fortitude. Put together a win streak!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 7:14:30 GMT -8
The Padres need a solid starting pitcher who can eat innings, maybe two.
That's not really debatable, to me.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 21, 2021 9:30:30 GMT -8
Just about everyone needs pitching. The Padres are no different in that regard.
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Post by junior on Jul 21, 2021 11:26:39 GMT -8
With their position in the race, and being in the Western Division, I don't see a way in for the Padres short of a WC game. With that assumption, maybe they should just sit on what they've got for now, don't give up anything for a short-term rental that likely won't really make a difference in the October Outcome. Oh ye of little faith. 5/6 games back with 55 games remaining, the Division is theirs for the taking, very attainable. Preller needs to bring in 2 good starters. The lineup needs to get better at manufacturing runs when facing a tough starter and crushing vulnerable starters. Padres just need to show some…..fortitude. Put together a win streak! When you've watched an organization muddle through multiple decades you tend to take a wait and see position. This may be the best team they've ever paid for or fielded, though some of the teams from the 90's were also well put together culminating with a fart and a smile in NYC in 1998… so yeah, I've got little faith.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 12:52:09 GMT -8
The Franimal is actually having a very good season for CLE though, he'd likely be on pace for 50 bombs if he hadn't missed a month or so with a side injury. Over .900 OPS, etc.
Dude is a beast at DH.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 21, 2021 13:05:07 GMT -8
Oh ye of little faith. 5/6 games back with 55 games remaining, the Division is theirs for the taking, very attainable. Preller needs to bring in 2 good starters. The lineup needs to get better at manufacturing runs when facing a tough starter and crushing vulnerable starters. Padres just need to show some…..fortitude. Put together a win streak! When you've watched an organization muddle through multiple decades you tend to take a wait and see position. This may be the best team they've ever paid for or fielded, though some of the teams from the 90's were also well put together culminating with a fart and a smile in NYC in 1998… so yeah, I've got little faith. To lifetime Padres fans, this is very understandable. I always hope for the best.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 10:34:29 GMT -8
They were in on Nelson Cruz, which would be a nice addition. But you don't want to part with any significant prospects for a 40 year old DH with limited outfield skills.
----"Two Triple-A right-handers who ranked among the better prospects in the Rays’ pitching-rich system might sound like a steep price for a rental hitter, even one as gifted as Nelson Cruz. But, as always, the Rays have more pitching coming. According to major-league sources, they jumped on Cruz eight days before the trade deadline, in part, because they sensed pressure from other clubs, including a most surprising suitor — the Padres.
Cruz, 41, has not played a defensive position since 2018, but the Padres wanted him even though, as a National League team, they play without a DH. Multiple Padres players reached out to Cruz to relay the team’s interest in the past week, and Padres officials had inquired about Cruz’s past practice of taking grounders at first and second base, sources said.
The Padres, while not the only NL team to express interest in Cruz, made the most serious push of those clubs, according to an official with knowledge of the discussions. Cruz, who has played only outfield in his 17-year major-league career, would have been used almost exclusively as a pinch-hitter. The Padres have only four road games left against AL clubs, limiting the extent of Cruz’s DH opportunities." --Ken Rosenthal
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2021 11:48:32 GMT -8
They were in on Nelson Cruz, which would be a nice addition. But you don't want to part with any significant prospects for a 40 year old DH with limited outfield skills. ----"Two Triple-A right-handers who ranked among the better prospects in the Rays’ pitching-rich system might sound like a steep price for a rental hitter, even one as gifted as Nelson Cruz. But, as always, the Rays have more pitching coming. According to major-league sources, they jumped on Cruz eight days before the trade deadline, in part, because they sensed pressure from other clubs, including a most surprising suitor — the Padres. Cruz, 41, has not played a defensive position since 2018, but the Padres wanted him even though, as a National League team, they play without a DH. Multiple Padres players reached out to Cruz to relay the team’s interest in the past week, and Padres officials had inquired about Cruz’s past practice of taking grounders at first and second base, sources said. The Padres, while not the only NL team to express interest in Cruz, made the most serious push of those clubs, according to an official with knowledge of the discussions. Cruz, who has played only outfield in his 17-year major-league career, would have been used almost exclusively as a pinch-hitter. The Padres have only four road games left against AL clubs, limiting the extent of Cruz’s DH opportunities." --Ken Rosenthal He would have logged a fair amount of time at first base, IMO...and his foot speed is essentially the same via the metrics as it was when he last played the outfield. Expect the Padres to be on him in the offseason.
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Post by sdcoug on Jul 23, 2021 12:27:23 GMT -8
They were in on Nelson Cruz, which would be a nice addition. But you don't want to part with any significant prospects for a 40 year old DH with limited outfield skills. ----"Two Triple-A right-handers who ranked among the better prospects in the Rays’ pitching-rich system might sound like a steep price for a rental hitter, even one as gifted as Nelson Cruz. But, as always, the Rays have more pitching coming. According to major-league sources, they jumped on Cruz eight days before the trade deadline, in part, because they sensed pressure from other clubs, including a most surprising suitor — the Padres. Cruz, 41, has not played a defensive position since 2018, but the Padres wanted him even though, as a National League team, they play without a DH. Multiple Padres players reached out to Cruz to relay the team’s interest in the past week, and Padres officials had inquired about Cruz’s past practice of taking grounders at first and second base, sources said. The Padres, while not the only NL team to express interest in Cruz, made the most serious push of those clubs, according to an official with knowledge of the discussions. Cruz, who has played only outfield in his 17-year major-league career, would have been used almost exclusively as a pinch-hitter. The Padres have only four road games left against AL clubs, limiting the extent of Cruz’s DH opportunities." --Ken Rosenthal He would have logged a fair amount of time at first base, IMO...and his foot speed is essentially the same via the metrics as it was when he last played the outfield. Expect the Padres to be on him in the offseason. If they go with the Universal DH, sure. Otherwise, no thanks. Not at what he'd command financially for what he'd provide (unless you can get someone to eat Hosmer's salary). Even Cruz apparently said he'd prefer to just DH in the AL (per the guys on the MLB Network).
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2021 12:45:01 GMT -8
He would have logged a fair amount of time at first base, IMO...and his foot speed is essentially the same via the metrics as it was when he last played the outfield. Expect the Padres to be on him in the offseason. If they go with the Universal DH, sure. Otherwise, no thanks. Not at what he'd command financially for what he'd provide (unless you can get someone to eat Hosmer's salary). Even Cruz apparently said he'd prefer to just DH in the AL (per the guys on the MLB Network). Just what I've heard - I don't think Ken's correct here in the sense that he would be just a pinch hitter off the bench. That's a gross misuse of his value.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 15:27:32 GMT -8
If they go with the Universal DH, sure. Otherwise, no thanks. Not at what he'd command financially for what he'd provide (unless you can get someone to eat Hosmer's salary). Even Cruz apparently said he'd prefer to just DH in the AL (per the guys on the MLB Network). Just what I've heard - I don't think Ken's correct here in the sense that he would be just a pinch hitter off the bench. That's a gross misuse of his value. Agree with you. I have a hard time seeing Nelson Cruz as a pinch hitter. Could have been a mix of (some) RF, 1B, and pinch hitting. And if somehow SD made the Series, he could DH when the series shifts to an AL park.
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Post by junior on Jul 23, 2021 18:55:09 GMT -8
Not at all unhappy the Padres passed on Nelson Cruz. In the olden days, when a name like Nelson Cruz would all but guarantee an increase in the number of butts in seats, it would've been a no-brainer. Luckily, the Padres left those days behind a few years ago.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 23, 2021 20:50:51 GMT -8
Not at all unhappy the Padres passed on Nelson Cruz. In the olden days, when a name like Nelson Cruz would all but guarantee an increase in the number of butts in seats, it would've been a no-brainer. Luckily, the Padres left those days behind a few years ago. He's a very, very good hitter. This is....weird.
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