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Post by johneaztec on Dec 5, 2019 15:32:53 GMT -8
Curious if a QB ever looks at the D see if a team is gonna be a winner? They should.
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Post by tonatiuh on Dec 5, 2019 15:46:46 GMT -8
I heard Rocky interviewed Monday following the game. He was asked if there was now a QB controversy at State and whom he'd start in the bowl game. He didn't hesitate, saying, "No. And Agnew's our starter for the next game." So not sure he's sold yet on Baker. Of course, he likes the way Baker played and handled himself against very tough competition, but you always (or usually do) go with experience when you play. Agnew should be healthy by then, and can start. Should he get into trouble then he can count on Baker coming in and not be completely green, and be able to run the team fairly well.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Dec 5, 2019 20:16:03 GMT -8
We lose a QB so we need at least one new. Add that neither Brookshire nor Sslazar (IMHO) have ability to throw well enough to be the backup in case disaster hits . I’d bring in two QBs. That’s right - two !
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Post by heuschele on Dec 6, 2019 1:04:31 GMT -8
If I were Sears I would not choose SDSU.
Love Rocky but ... 1) defense 2 ) run game 3) pass game 4) special teams (which have somehow managed to be pretty good he last few years in spite of this)
Recruiting a top rated QB is going to be very tough. I think we are more likely to develop one than recruit one.
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Post by tonatiuh on Dec 6, 2019 16:46:40 GMT -8
If I were Sears I would not choose SDSU. Love Rocky but ... 1) defense 2 ) run game 3) pass game 4) special teams (which have somehow managed to be pretty good he last few years in spite of this) Recruiting a top rated QB is going to be very tough. I think we are more likely to develop one than recruit one. You may be correct on that last statement, but keep in mind there is always the possibility that a good QB sees our situation and decides he could change things for the offense and come here because there would not be much competition ahead of him. That could be a plus for us!
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 6, 2019 16:54:49 GMT -8
If I were Sears I would not choose SDSU. Love Rocky but ... 1) defense 2 ) run game 3) pass game 4) special teams (which have somehow managed to be pretty good he last few years in spite of this) Recruiting a top rated QB is going to be very tough. I think we are more likely to develop one than recruit one. You may be correct on that last statement, but keep in mind there is always the possibility that a good QB sees our situation and decides he could change things for the offense and come here because there would not be much competition ahead of him. That could be a plus for us! I think if we have a QB who actually has a consistent good arm and can play, our offense would change to accommodate. If our OC doesn't play to our strength, then that would be horrible.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 6, 2019 17:08:27 GMT -8
If I were Sears I would not choose SDSU. Love Rocky but ... 1) defense 2 ) run game 3) pass game 4) special teams (which have somehow managed to be pretty good he last few years in spite of this) Recruiting a top rated QB is going to be very tough. I think we are more likely to develop one than recruit one. Some athletes are wired differently. They may see... 1) Defense: A great D is 1/3 of the formula along with your #4 and a great O to a championship team. Looking at our O the past few seasons, what stopped it from moving was the QB play. Yes, our OL was terrible at times when it wasn't playing poorly. But, can anybody convince me if we had Sears this year, we wouldn't be 12-0 or 11-1 right now? 2) Not anymore lol 3) He's might think he's the guy from getting it going. Seeing we do have talent at WR and TE. The only thing missing is a good QB. 4) Again, another 1/3. So what's missing is a great O in desperate need of a quality QB.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 6, 2019 17:11:46 GMT -8
You may be correct on that last statement, but keep in mind there is always the possibility that a good QB sees our situation and decides he could change things for the offense and come here because there would not be much competition ahead of him. That could be a plus for us! I think if we have a QB who actually has a consistent good arm and can play, our offense would change to accommodate. If our OC doesn't play to our strength, then that would be horrible. And that's the issue. Our OC. I'm pretty sure our strength isn't running up the middle.
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 6, 2019 17:13:51 GMT -8
to not sign a transfer like Jack Sears? I believe Rocky said that he would evaluate Baker in the BYU game, and see if he could handle the pressure and see how he did in a game situation. When I heard that, I thought that it wasn't enough of a sample size to make a big decision like that. Having said that, I was very impressed with Baker in a game situation, especially against a good team like BYU and it being his first start, but I would still bring in a Jack Sears for sure, if that was an option. If Sears is interested in coming to SDSU then you sign him even if Baker looks like Tom Brady. Sears has talent and a team always needs depth. Plus, Brady split time in college
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Post by sdsustoner on Dec 6, 2019 17:18:48 GMT -8
Oregon State is recruiting him too The adv is they have Jonathan Smith ensuring his O does do that. I'd easily take Smith over Horton. That disadvantage is you get your rear ends kicked every week being the Beavers. Don't agree with OSU in regression, quick the opposite. Hey, this is a GREAT problem to have, kid played well enough to win, think of it, we could be $C today and on suicide watch after their news on Helton... They are getting better. But, they're still not gonna win a conference title or compete for one. Smith would be a much better development of talent though.
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Post by heuschele on Dec 6, 2019 20:53:03 GMT -8
If I were Sears I would not choose SDSU. Love Rocky but ... 1) defense 2 ) run game 3) pass game 4) special teams (which have somehow managed to be pretty good he last few years in spite of this) Recruiting a top rated QB is going to be very tough. I think we are more likely to develop one than recruit one. Some athletes are wired differently. They may see... 1) Defense: A great D is 1/3 of the formula along with your #4 and a great O to a championship team. Looking at our O the past few seasons, what stopped it from moving was the QB play. Yes, our OL was terrible at times when it wasn't playing poorly. But, can anybody convince me if we had Sears this year, we wouldn't be 12-0 or 11-1 right now? 2) Not anymore lol 3) He's might think he's the guy from getting it going. Seeing we do have talent at WR and TE. The only thing missing is a good QB. 4) Again, another 1/3. So what's missing is a great O in desperate need of a quality QB. Top QB recruits seldom go to teams more known for their defense than offense. They also seldom go to offenses that are run first offenses. Those are both traits of Rocky Long coached teams. He has had good success with this mindset. However, it makes it difficult to get a top QB recruit. Rocky has coach MWC a long time. He has had many great defensive players, some great RB, but what is his best QB. Has any of his QBS been drafted?
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Post by tonatiuh on Dec 7, 2019 11:50:29 GMT -8
Some athletes are wired differently. They may see... 1) Defense: A great D is 1/3 of the formula along with your #4 and a great O to a championship team. Looking at our O the past few seasons, what stopped it from moving was the QB play. Yes, our OL was terrible at times when it wasn't playing poorly. But, can anybody convince me if we had Sears this year, we wouldn't be 12-0 or 11-1 right now? 2) Not anymore lol 3) He's might think he's the guy from getting it going. Seeing we do have talent at WR and TE. The only thing missing is a good QB. 4) Again, another 1/3. So what's missing is a great O in desperate need of a quality QB. Top QB recruits seldom go to teams more known for their defense than offense. They also seldom go to offenses that are run first offenses. Those are both traits of Rocky Long coached teams. He has had good success with this mindset. However, it makes it difficult to get a top QB recruit. Rocky has coach MWC a long time. He has had many great defensive players, some great RB, but what is his best QB. Has any of his QBS been drafted? You may have heard of Ryan Lindley who was drafted by the New England Patriots in 2012. He is the leading Aztec passer in yardage (12,690) & TD's (90). He played for Rocky in 2011.
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Post by legkick on Dec 7, 2019 12:00:57 GMT -8
You may have heard of Ryan Lindley who was drafted by the New England Patriots in 2012. He is the leading Aztec passer in yardage (12,690) & TD's (90). He played for Rocky in 2011. Wrong Long. Ryan Lindley was recruited by Chuck, not Rocky. If anything, this bolsters heuschele's point. Chuck was considered an "offensive" mind.
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Post by ignoranus on Dec 7, 2019 13:02:55 GMT -8
Chuckles had an "offensive mind?"
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Post by standiego on Dec 7, 2019 13:43:28 GMT -8
What kind of offense does Rocky want the Aztecs to be . one where the QB is the focal point or basically game manager . We are not going to get a high quality QB if they are predominantly a game manager .
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Post by heuschele on Dec 7, 2019 20:41:47 GMT -8
Top QB recruits seldom go to teams more known for their defense than offense. They also seldom go to offenses that are run first offenses. Those are both traits of Rocky Long coached teams. He has had good success with this mindset. However, it makes it difficult to get a top QB recruit. Rocky has coach MWC a long time. He has had many great defensive players, some great RB, but what is his best QB. Has any of his QBS been drafted? You may have heard of Ryan Lindley who was drafted by the New England Patriots in 2012. He is the leading Aztec passer in yardage (12,690) & TD's (90). He played for Rocky in 2011. I had not remembered that there was a year of overlap. However, not having been recruited by Rocky, Lindley does not contradict my premise.
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Post by myownwords on Dec 8, 2019 13:43:58 GMT -8
Top QB recruits seldom go to teams more known for their defense than offense. They also seldom go to offenses that are run first offenses. Those are both traits of Rocky Long coached teams. He has had good success with this mindset. However, it makes it difficult to get a top QB recruit. Rocky has coach MWC a long time. He has had many great defensive players, some great RB, but what is his best QB. Has any of his QBS been drafted? You may have heard of Ryan Lindley who was drafted by the New England Patriots in 2012. He is the leading Aztec passer in yardage (12,690) & TD's (90). He played for Rocky in 2011. But he was NOT recruited by Rocky, correct?
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 8, 2019 14:59:54 GMT -8
You may have heard of Ryan Lindley who was drafted by the New England Patriots in 2012. He is the leading Aztec passer in yardage (12,690) & TD's (90). He played for Rocky in 2011. But he was NOT recruited by Rocky, correct? Correct
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