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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 29, 2019 12:08:38 GMT -8
I see a team with little heart. This Padre team, while talented, lacks the “it factor” to win next year with the current roster.
The turnaround is going to start with a winning manager, someone who can take these underachievers and kick them in the direction of success.
Like I said at the beginning of this year, this club needs 2 established veteran starters to put alongside Paddock, Lamet or whoever. Pull the trigger Preller or next year will be more of the same.
Bullpen needs to be rebuilt, maybe Lauer and Morejon can be effective there.
The new manager needs to stress better BA, if a player can’t hit above .240 they shouldn’t be an everyday player.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 29, 2019 12:56:16 GMT -8
I see a team with little heart. This Padre team, while talented, lacks the “it factor” to win next year with the current roster. The turnaround is going to start with a winning manager, someone who can take these underachievers and kick them in the direction of success. Like I said the beginning of this year, this club needs 2 established veteran starters to put alongside Gore, Paddock, Lamet or whoever. Pull the trigger Preller or next year will be more of the same. Bullpen needs to be rebuilt, maybe Lauer and Morejon can be effective there. The new manager needs to stress better BA, if a player can’t hit above .240 they shouldn’t be an everyday player. It isn't the manager's job to stress batting average, it's an organizational philosophy that starts with making better contact, using the whole field and knowing situational awareness. You aren't going to change an Eric Hosmer, unfortunately. The rotation needs an arm, and they will likely get one. Don't really see the need for two unless it's a very short term contract. The bullpen was the best in the National League (And yes, Kirby Yates is a massive part of that), but they just need better health in the pen. Castillo being out all year esssentially was a massive, massive blow. Moving Strahm back full time, along with developing Muñoz, Baez, Bednar and a couple others is fine.
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Post by azteca on Sept 29, 2019 13:05:52 GMT -8
I see a team with little heart. This Padre team, while talented, lacks the “it factor” to win next year with the current roster. The turnaround is going to start with a winning manager, someone who can take these underachievers and kick them in the direction of success. Like I said the beginning of this year, this club needs 2 established veteran starters to put alongside Gore, Paddock, Lamet or whoever. Pull the trigger Preller or next year will be more of the same. Bullpen needs to be rebuilt, maybe Lauer and Morejon can be effective there. The new manager needs to stress better BA, if a player can’t hit above .240 they shouldn’t be an everyday player. It isn't the manager's job to stress batting average, it's an organizational philosophy that starts with making better contact, using the whole field and knowing situational awareness. You aren't going to change an Eric Hosmer, unfortunately. The rotation needs an arm, and they will likely get one. Don't really see the need for two unless it's a very short term contract. The bullpen was the best in the National League (And yes, Kirby Yates is a massive part of that), but they just need better health in the pen. Castillo being out all year esssentially was a massive, massive blow. Moving Strahm back full time, along with developing Muñoz, Baez, Bednar and a couple others is fine. Maybe I misread your post but the Dodgers had the best bullpen in the National League and the Padres were 18.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 29, 2019 13:07:17 GMT -8
It isn't the manager's job to stress batting average, it's an organizational philosophy that starts with making better contact, using the whole field and knowing situational awareness. You aren't going to change an Eric Hosmer, unfortunately. The rotation needs an arm, and they will likely get one. Don't really see the need for two unless it's a very short term contract. The bullpen was the best in the National League (And yes, Kirby Yates is a massive part of that), but they just need better health in the pen. Castillo being out all year esssentially was a massive, massive blow. Moving Strahm back full time, along with developing Muñoz, Baez, Bednar and a couple others is fine. Maybe I misread your post but the Dodgers had the best bullpen in the National League and the Padres were 18. I assume you are using ERA.
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Post by azteca on Sept 29, 2019 13:09:49 GMT -8
Maybe I misread your post but the Dodgers had the best bullpen in the National League and the Padres were 18. I assume you are using ERA. Is that not important?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 29, 2019 13:18:05 GMT -8
I assume you are using ERA. Is that not important? It's not an indication of how well a pitcher is actually pitching, so no. Is it a pitcher's fault if a shortstop drops a ball and it's ruled a hit? Counts as an earned run in the eyes of the official scorer. If you're going to go that route, use FIP. Removes the subjective nature of that out. Padres are 5th, 2nd in the NL.
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Post by azteca on Sept 29, 2019 13:34:45 GMT -8
It's not an indication of how well a pitcher is actually pitching, so no. Is it a pitcher's fault if a shortstop drops a ball and it's ruled a hit? Counts as an earned run in the eyes of the official scorer. If you're going to go that route, use FIP. Removes the subjective nature of that out. Padres are 5th, 2nd in the NL. Geez, Ryan, a ball dropped that should have been an error but was ruled a hit. That’s reach for sure but I should have known!😲
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 29, 2019 15:50:22 GMT -8
It's not an indication of how well a pitcher is actually pitching, so no. Is it a pitcher's fault if a shortstop drops a ball and it's ruled a hit? Counts as an earned run in the eyes of the official scorer. If you're going to go that route, use FIP. Removes the subjective nature of that out. Padres are 5th, 2nd in the NL. Geez, Ryan, a ball dropped that should have been an error but was ruled a hit. That’s reach for sure but I should have known!😲 Ask the Rockies. Been happening in Coors Field for years. FIP just removes the factors that are outside of a pitcher's control. It's what made Kirby Yates have one of the best seasons this century for a reliever.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 29, 2019 16:57:35 GMT -8
Hedges and Urias were pretty much automatic outs much of the season, little better than pitchers. Of course the offense is going to struggle when there is almost no production spots 7-9 in the batting order. That needs to be fixed. In fact Hedges is historically bad in terms of avg. top 10 worst all time with 1000 abs. Bring in someone like Kurt Suzuki or Flowers or Grandal.
The bottom line is this team went flatter than 2 week old Pepsi. They were in the conversation then forgot how to walk and talk.
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Post by junior on Sept 29, 2019 19:33:47 GMT -8
They worked hard over the last few weeks to earn that LAST PLACE POSITION…
They can do all the nonsense in the world to try to hide the facts during the season, but at the end of the season, they're still losers.
Likely will stay that way as long as the current crew of numbnutz are allowed to run the organization.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 29, 2019 21:36:38 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Sept 29, 2019 22:43:12 GMT -8
Do you really want to put those numbers up and compare them to the Padres during that time? The current Padres ownership group has owned the club roughly one year less than the Astros owner. There really is no comparison.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 30, 2019 1:11:58 GMT -8
The difference is the Astros are competently run.......The Padres, the record speaks for itself.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2019 8:36:39 GMT -8
The difference is the Astros are competently run.......The Padres, the record speaks for itself. The point is that Houston lost 100+ games 3 years in a row, then finished year 4 with an identical record to what the Padres did with a group of largely pre-arbitration players spearheading their success. Year 4 will be telling.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 30, 2019 10:30:41 GMT -8
The difference is the Astros are competently run.......The Padres, the record speaks for itself. The point is that Houston lost 100+ games 3 years in a row, then finished year 4 with an identical record to what the Padres did with a group of largely pre-arbitration players spearheading their success. Year 4 will be telling. My point is a turnaround is possible only if the front office makes some prudent decisions. Just because a franchise is “rebuilding” doesn’t guarantee success, the Padres have been at it since they moved into Petco Park.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 11:27:49 GMT -8
The point is that Houston lost 100+ games 3 years in a row, then finished year 4 with an identical record to what the Padres did with a group of largely pre-arbitration players spearheading their success. Year 4 will be telling. My point is a turnaround is possible only if the front office makes some prudent decisions. Just because a franchise is “rebuilding” doesn’t guarantee success, the Padres have been at it since they moved into Petco Park. became a MLB franchise. FIFY
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2019 13:54:44 GMT -8
The point is that Houston lost 100+ games 3 years in a row, then finished year 4 with an identical record to what the Padres did with a group of largely pre-arbitration players spearheading their success. Year 4 will be telling. My point is a turnaround is possible only if the front office makes some prudent decisions. Just because a franchise is “rebuilding” doesn’t guarantee success, the Padres have been at it since they moved into Petco Park. That includes multiple different ownership groups, one of which had no business owning the team in the first place. Apples and oranges.
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Post by AztecBill on Oct 24, 2019 23:29:28 GMT -8
In 2014 after the Astros had a 70-92 record they hired AJ Hinch who was working for the Padres as vice president of professional scouting. His managing experience was 212 games managing the DBacks ending with a 89–123 record. He never managed in any other level of baseball. When hired by the Astros he hadn't managed for 4 seasons. I am sure if the Padres made such a hire everyone would be up in arms. AJ Hinch's record now speaks for itself. The bottom line is: he lost with the DBacks and won with the Astros because of the players he had on the field.
We will probably add a top pitcher, our young players will improve, and some minor league players will get promoted and rock. The Pares will play about as well as they would have for Green but the new manager will be touted as a genius.
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