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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 24, 2019 0:28:20 GMT -8
How quickly do the Pads fill their managerial opening and with whom?
Maddon, Girardi or Scioscia. Someone who will have the balls to tell Preller that winning will require some experienced veteran arms in the rotation and bullpen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 7:18:28 GMT -8
No thanks on Scioscia. He had a bad rep for being adverse to analytics, and butted heads with the GM there at the end of his tenure. Of course I give him credit for his WS title (17 years ago) but the game has changed. I lived in North OC for most of the last 15 years and Mike was known to be the guy who sided with the vets and keep trotting out Pujols in the 4 slot, and other questionable lineups despite production at that time. I've also read Girardi was canned in favor of Boone (who so far is doing great despite all of NYYs injuries) because of reluctance to embrace analytics and the "new" MLB. Just what I have read, anyhow. I think Moises Alou is intriguing and worth a close look, I would at least ask Bochy if he is interested, and I think Mark Loretta is worth a look. www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/padres-fire-andy-green-13-candidates-to-become-the-next-manager-in-san-diego/Ron Washington, hmm. Went to two World Series with the Rangers. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 7:20:26 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Sept 24, 2019 7:51:44 GMT -8
No thanks on Scioscia. He had a bad rep for being adverse to analytics, and butted heads with the GM there at the end of his tenure. Of course I give him credit for his WS title (17 years ago) but the game has changed. I lived in North OC for most of the last 15 years and Mike was known to be the guy who sided with the vets and keep trotting out Pujols in the 4 slot, and other questionable lineups despite production at that time. I've also read Girardi was canned in favor of Boone (who so far is doing great despite all of NYYs injuries) because of reluctance to embrace analytics and the "new" MLB. Just what I have read, anyhow. I think Moises Alou is intriguing and worth a close look, I would at least ask Bochy if he is interested, and I think Mark Loretta is worth a look. www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/padres-fire-andy-green-13-candidates-to-become-the-next-manager-in-san-diego/Ron Washington, hmm. Went to two World Series with the Rangers. Phil Nevin intrigues me for some reason. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 8:48:26 GMT -8
As long as it is someone who pushes analytics and data driven procedures, that's really what matters. There are a lot of intriguing first time candidates, but I just see Preller caving to experience, knowing this is his last hire.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 9:12:30 GMT -8
As long as it is someone who pushes analytics and data driven procedures, that's really what matters. There are a lot of intriguing first time candidates, but I just see Preller caving to experience, knowing this is his last hire. 100% agree with you. And for those old school guys who are going to bash the "new age" thinking......there are plenty of old school, experienced managers who embrace analytics in todays game. Terry Francona, for one has embraced them much more than he did earlier in his career. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 9:58:55 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 12:25:06 GMT -8
As long as it is someone who pushes analytics and data driven procedures, that's really what matters. There are a lot of intriguing first time candidates, but I just see Preller caving to experience, knowing this is his last hire. 100% agree with you. And for those old school guys who are going to bash the "new age" thinking......there are plenty of old school, experienced managers who embrace analytics in todays game. Terry Francona, for one has embraced them much more than he did earlier in his career. Spot on. Honestly, I would be delving into the Astros and Dodger organizations. Gold mines to be found. This is just such a massively important hire considering the stakes and the timing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 14:29:38 GMT -8
100% agree with you. And for those old school guys who are going to bash the "new age" thinking......there are plenty of old school, experienced managers who embrace analytics in todays game. Terry Francona, for one has embraced them much more than he did earlier in his career. Spot on. Honestly, I would be delving into the Astros and Dodger organizations. Gold mines to be found. This is just such a massively important hire considering the stakes and the timing. The Astros rebuilt in four years. The Dodgers have had money. The Padres will be in their 9th year of rebuilding. It's time to show the fans who have supported the Friars throughout the years the gold. 💰 |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 14:45:15 GMT -8
Spot on. Honestly, I would be delving into the Astros and Dodger organizations. Gold mines to be found. This is just such a massively important hire considering the stakes and the timing. The Astros rebuilt in four years. The Dodgers have had money. The Padres will be in their 9th year of rebuilding. It's time to show the fans who have supported the Friars throughout the years the gold. 💰 This is year three of the Padre rebuild. You have to objectively look at it as anything post 2016 is on its own merits. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 24, 2019 14:57:09 GMT -8
As long as it is someone who pushes analytics and data driven procedures, that's really what matters. There are a lot of intriguing first time candidates, but I just see Preller caving to experience, knowing this is his last hire. This is a reasonable assessment. The only thing I see is much of the data which guided many personnel decisions will need to be completely re-evaluated due the dawning of the Ultra Live Ball Era. (A new term I just came up with, feel free to use it). A successful manager/GM will be the one who can shore up the defense and figure out a pitching game plan to counter the home run barrage. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 15:10:07 GMT -8
As long as it is someone who pushes analytics and data driven procedures, that's really what matters. There are a lot of intriguing first time candidates, but I just see Preller caving to experience, knowing this is his last hire. This is a reasonable assessment. The only thing I see is much of the data which guided many personnel decisions will need to be completely re-evaluated due the dawning of the Ultra Live Ball Era. (A new term I just came up with, feel free to use it). A successful manager/GM will be the one who can shore up the defense and figure out a pitching game plan to counter the home run barrage. The ball is going to be changed. To what degree is anyone's guess, but the video game numbers are going to die down. Manfred knows it's bad for the sport to have this home run explosion, as it's going to throw arbitration and contracts in general way out of whack, which owners will not pay for, which will lead to more chaos. And all teams have their own internal processes as it is to quantify data. The ball being changed will help the Padres, the pitching staff has one of the worst "luck" factors in baseball when it comes to home runs. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 17:14:56 GMT -8
The Astros rebuilt in four years. The Dodgers have had money. The Padres will be in their 9th year of rebuilding. It's time to show the fans who have supported the Friars throughout the years the gold. 💰 This is year three of the Padre rebuild. You have to objectively look at it as anything post 2016 is on its own merits. I was referring to when Fowler and the O'Malleys took over. So it will be eight years next season and five years since the 2015 debacle. |
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 26, 2019 10:35:05 GMT -8
Alou has taken his name out of consideration. He was a favorite of the brass and considered the choice if he wanted the job. Just doesn't seem to want to manage in any capacity.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 29, 2019 9:52:05 GMT -8
Madden is now officially available, as the Cubs have decided to move on from him.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 29, 2019 11:54:35 GMT -8
Madden is now officially available, as the Cubs have decided to move on from him. I would be very happy with Madden. |
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Post by ignoranus on Sept 30, 2019 10:07:15 GMT -8
Bochy.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2019 13:55:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2019 13:57:18 GMT -8
Madden is now officially available, as the Cubs have decided to move on from him. I would be very happy with Madden. I keep hearing this (although I think he ends up in Anaheim) but I don't see why. Plus, his comments on domestic violence and sexual assault are really....not good. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2019 14:29:28 GMT -8
The rumor from ESPN seems that Maddon is the favorite for being the Angels manager after they fired Brad Ausmus. Just speculation at this point though.
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