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Post by Bob Forsythe on Aug 12, 2009 16:47:24 GMT -8
Whine whine, fuss fuss. You made your decision on how you wanted to live your life and now you're bitching about it. I'm sorry, but the decision was yours. But aside from that, when I carried mail I was working with a lot of retired vets. They were covered by the VA and didn't need to be covered by USPS. And along with that, they retired in their late 30s or early 40s and double dipped on their retirement once they did another 20 carrying mail or working as clerks. And you are full of $#!+ when it comes to entry pay for letter carriers. A friend of mind retired in April after 26 years as a front desk clerk and the most he ever made was 52 grand and he retired with a monthly income of around 2200 bucks. But the bucks don't really matter. What matters is that you are quite obviously jealous of anyone who made a different decision than you did and therefore made more bucks than you did. You're protests are pathetic because they are nothing more than the complaints from someone who decided to go into the military and now hate the fact that you could have made more bucks and had better retirement pay if you'd gone into the public sector. Tell me why I should assume you deserve more than you are receiving when your career was your choice. After all, Dave, it does seem to me that you consistently make the argument that it's all about responsibility. But here you are, trying to argue that you deserve more than others simply because you decided to make a career in the military. Simply put, you are whining about choices that you made. =Bob |
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Post by davdesid on Aug 12, 2009 16:55:42 GMT -8
Whine whine, fuss fuss. You made your decision on how you wanted to live your life and now you're bitching about it. I'm sorry, but the decision was yours. But aside from that, when I carried mail I was working with a lot of retired vets. They were covered by the VA and didn't need to be covered by USPS. And along with that, they retired in their late 30s or early 40s and double dipped on their retirement once they did another 20 carrying mail or working as clerks. And you are full of $#!+ when it comes to entry pay for letter carriers. A friend of mind retired in April after 26 years as a front desk clerk and the most he ever made was 52 grand and he retired with a monthly income of around 2200 bucks. But the bucks don't really matter. What matters is that you are quite obviously jealous of anyone who made a different decision than you did and therefore made more bucks than you did. You're protests are pathetic because they are nothing more than the complaints from someone who decided to go into the military and now hate the fact that you could have made more bucks and had better retirement pay if you'd gone into the public sector. Tell me why I should assume you deserve more than you are receiving when your career was your choice. After all, Dave, it does seem to me that you consistently make the argument that it's all about responsibility. But here you are, trying to argue that you deserve more than others simply because you decided to make a career in the military. Simply put, you are whining about choices that you made. =Bob You are the one whining. I'm quite satisfied with my choices. You are the one complaining about your premiums. Simply put, you are trying to project your whining dissatisfaction on me and others. Learn to live with it. And your attempt to deny the entry level pay of letter carriers is pathetic. Once again: www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=U.S._Postal_Service_(USPS)/SalaryYou are the one who is full of $#!+. |
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Post by aztecwin on Aug 12, 2009 17:12:47 GMT -8
Whine whine, fuss fuss. You made your decision on how you wanted to live your life and now you're bitching about it. I'm sorry, but the decision was yours. But aside from that, when I carried mail I was working with a lot of retired vets. They were covered by the VA and didn't need to be covered by USPS. And along with that, they retired in their late 30s or early 40s and double dipped on their retirement once they did another 20 carrying mail or working as clerks. And you are full of $#!+ when it comes to entry pay for letter carriers. A friend of mind retired in April after 26 years as a front desk clerk and the most he ever made was 52 grand and he retired with a monthly income of around 2200 bucks. But the bucks don't really matter. What matters is that you are quite obviously jealous of anyone who made a different decision than you did and therefore made more bucks than you did. You're protests are pathetic because they are nothing more than the complaints from someone who decided to go into the military and now hate the fact that you could have made more bucks and had better retirement pay if you'd gone into the public sector. Tell me why I should assume you deserve more than you are receiving when your career was your choice. After all, Dave, it does seem to me that you consistently make the argument that it's all about responsibility. But here you are, trying to argue that you deserve more than others simply because you decided to make a career in the military. Simply put, you are whining about choices that you made. =Bob What you seem to lose track of is the facts about TriCare and now Medicare. At the time I first enlisted, we were "promised" free Medical Care for our eligible family members for life. That "imputed" part of our pay and retirement has gradually eroded or changed to be a still generous plan but at a pretty good monthly premium. Our benevolent Congress has slowly eroded the attractiveness of the "promise". Now Congress is trying to hoodwink not only us, but the country as a whole with the multiple ill defined bills sloshing around in Congress under the umbrella of ObamaKare. Should they pass some ill defined bill it will not be the bill guidelines that get us, but the rules and regulations that will implement the bill written by the faceless ObamaMob bureaucrats that will shape the rationing and increased cost across the board for us all. Wake up and figure out what ObamaKare would mean for us all. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 13, 2009 7:49:37 GMT -8
The reform needs to stay predominately private which is an anathema to the garden variety Stateist, let alone an avid neo-Marxist. But it can be done better however. Really? Are you happy with the increases you've had to deal with in recent years? Are you stupid enough to assume that it's all because there is no tort reform and that insurance companies will charge you less if there is tort reform, given that there is already tort reform in this state? it can be done better however. What the F@$k does that mean other than you offering an opinion that our current health system sucks? =Bob What the F@$K that meant is that the proposed reforms from Congress suck and the proposed reforms can be done better. The existing Government provided plans are breaking the bank. Why not fix those first before we lump the majority into the mix? There are plenty of proposals out there to provide more and reduce the cost for healthcare without getting the Gov overly involved and breaking the bank that, for the most part, are not being considered. Proposals like Tort Reform, across state competition for Health Insurance, increase pooling of small business, HSAs, tax incentives, Catastrophic policies, etc. But these proposal just don't fit into Obama's Government take-over model and they don't necessarily increase the care and feeding for Obama's beloved Unions and Lawyers. So they are out. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 13, 2009 8:25:45 GMT -8
I do not believe that a patient cannot negotiate for less than so-called "full boat". I've done it. As have I. The wife wanted to get some foot surgery done not covered by our plan at the time. I did an interesting thing, something almost unheard of when it comes to the medical industry; I shopped and I negotiated. What was initially a $12,000 procedure with a night in the hospital at Scripps Green went down to a $3500.00 outpatient procedure at Scripps Carmel Valley. Same Doctor and everything. Weird but true.. I stand corrected. I guess you just have to have the balls to do it. ;D |
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