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Post by retiredaztec on Aug 10, 2019 7:45:36 GMT -8
...ICE gathered up a number of working, tax paying undocumented workers at various plants in Mississippi, yet none of the plants that hired them, to this point,
have been held accountable.
Why is that?
Could it be that this clown currently stinking up the White House has been using undocumented workers on his property's for years? And this "show of force" is simply
to placate his ever shrinking base?, (refer to a number of articles on Google regarding this).
I've never had any use for assholes that operate under the misguided notion there are two sets of rules in life, (see Eli Manning). Yet there are those that continue
to believe this idiot walks on water.
Why?
As I continue to enjoy this show from the sidelines, I can only imagine what this punch line of a country will look like a year from now.  |
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Post by azteccc on Aug 10, 2019 9:11:06 GMT -8
...ICE gathered up a number of working, tax paying undocumented workers at various plants in Mississippi, yet none of the plants that hired them, to this point,
have been held accountable.
Why is that?
Could it be that this clown currently stinking up the White House has been using undocumented workers on his property's for years? And this "show of force" is simply
to placate his ever shrinking base?, (refer to a number of articles on Google regarding this).
I've never had any use for assholes that operate under the misguided notion there are two sets of rules in life, (see Eli Manning). Yet there are those that continue
to believe this idiot walks on water.
Why?
As I continue to enjoy this show from the sidelines, I can only imagine what this punch line of a country will look like a year from now. Watch Years and Years on HBO! |
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Post by ptsdthor on Aug 10, 2019 9:14:18 GMT -8
Could it be that many of the illegal immigrants used fradulent SSNs to pass the E-Verify requirements imposed on the employer and thus the employer, per the rule of law, did nothing wrong? You do know that the Gov does not care that illegal immigrants steal identities in this way (as punishment for that violation, if ever found, is not a felony). And the Gov turns right around an enables the fraud and issues another tax ID to illegals come tax time? Surprised you are interested in the rule of law, assuming you are a Democrat.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 10, 2019 9:19:11 GMT -8
Could it be that many of the illegal immigrants used fradulent SSNs to pass the E-Verify requirements imposed on the employer and thus the employer, per the rule of law, did nothing wrong? You do know that the Gov does not care that illegal immigrants steal identities in this way (as punishment for that violation, if ever found, is not a felony). And the Gov turns right around an enables the fraud and issues another tax ID to illegals come tax time? Surprised you are interested in the rule of law, assuming you are a Democrat. gimme a break, Trump's been using illegals on his properties for years..still is. |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 12, 2019 10:15:45 GMT -8
Could it be that many of the illegal immigrants used fradulent SSNs to pass the E-Verify requirements imposed on the employer and thus the employer, per the rule of law, did nothing wrong? You do know that the Gov does not care that illegal immigrants steal identities in this way (as punishment for that violation, if ever found, is not a felony). And the Gov turns right around an enables the fraud and issues another tax ID to illegals come tax time? Surprised you are interested in the rule of law, assuming you are a Democrat. Employers have NEVER been punished for using undocumented workers in this or past administrations.
Bogus bull pucky.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2019 18:33:50 GMT -8
Could it be that many of the illegal immigrants used fradulent SSNs to pass the E-Verify requirements imposed on the employer and thus the employer, per the rule of law, did nothing wrong? You do know that the Gov does not care that illegal immigrants steal identities in this way (as punishment for that violation, if ever found, is not a felony). And the Gov turns right around an enables the fraud and issues another tax ID to illegals come tax time? Surprised you are interested in the rule of law, assuming you are a Democrat. Employers have NEVER been punished for using undocumented workers in this or past administrations. Bogus bull pucky. So, you are saying that employers haven't really been punished for using undocumented workers and current as well as past administrations have looked the other way regarding it? That includes past Democrats as well right? Then why does every douchebag politician regardless of political affiliation point the finger at the other douchebag during election time? Democrats are mad so it's one their many go-tos. And in regards to other post acussing Trump of hiring illegals, I'm sure when you have as many businesses as he does, there's gonna be undocumented workers slip through cracks. You people make it sound like he was at the job interview and hired them personally. Just so you don't think I'm rah rahin the Republicans, they suck too!! But the whining from Democrats is beyond ridiculous. Trump won get over it!! |
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 14, 2019 10:17:18 GMT -8
Employers have NEVER been punished for using undocumented workers in this or past administrations. Bogus bull pucky. So, you are saying that employers haven't really been punished for using undocumented workers and current as well as past administrations have looked the other way regarding it? That includes past Democrats as well right? Then why does every douchebag politician regardless of political affiliation point the finger at the other douchebag during election time? Democrats are mad so it's one their many go-tos. And in regards to other post acussing Trump of hiring illegals, I'm sure when you have as many businesses as he does, there's gonna be undocumented workers slip through cracks. You people make it sound like he was at the job interview and hired them personally. Just so you don't think I'm rah rahin the Republicans, they suck too!! But the whining from Democrats is beyond ridiculous. Trump won get over it!! Yes. That is what I said. Unlike some others on this board I'm willing to call out both sides when they screw up. Both Dems and Pubs are supported and support big business. How much of Trump's tax cut actually helped the middle or lower classes? Most of the business tax cut went into stock buybacks. |
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Post by AztecBill on Aug 14, 2019 10:21:25 GMT -8
We need a better method of identifying citizens. Until the democrats are willing to allow that to happen, it is hard to hold any employers accountable. If they pay them under the table that is another matter and should be pursued.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 14, 2019 13:46:14 GMT -8
We need a better method of identifying citizens. Until the democrats are willing to allow that to happen, it is hard to hold any employers accountable. If they pay them under the table that is another matter and should be pursued. E-Verify works quite well as long as you use it.
And until everyone is required to carry a national identify card i.e. "papers" that will never happen. And Republicans are much more against this than Democrats are. "An intrusion on personal liberty"
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 15, 2019 9:46:22 GMT -8
...ICE gathered up a number of working, tax paying undocumented workers at various plants in Mississippi, yet none of the plants that hired them, to this point,
have been held accountable.
Why is that?
I’m taking your question at face value and can give you the answer. The reason is economic. The number of undocumented workers directly effects wage growth and inflation. More undocumented workers = lower wage growth & lower inflation. Fewer undocumented workers = more wage growth & higher inflation. The mechanism to actively manage this economic vector was put in place in 1996 via the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA), commonly termed ‘Expedited Removal’, which made relatively rapid labor force changes possible at a reasonable cost. The size of that labor pool can be managed in a way the citizen labor pool cannot. It has nothing to do with law enforcement or justice or xenophobia or whatever, so the employers are irrelevant. The effort is focused entirely on which way the economic braintrust in power wants to tweak the macroeconomic picture. Past administrations weighed inflation as the bigger concern and scaled back IIRIRA activity. The current administration put a higher value on seeing wage growth. Personally I think the economy is too complex for anyone to truly manage it, but levers like IIRIRA have been put in place and every so often people yank them. |
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Post by survalli on Aug 15, 2019 12:06:59 GMT -8
Employers are usually smart about this. They have the Employees Forge SSN etc...the Employer can then feign ignorance. Employers will document their payroll taxes, and then everything appears on the up and up.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 16, 2019 10:08:41 GMT -8
Employers are usually smart about this. They have the Employees Forge SSN etc...the Employer can then feign ignorance. Employers will document their payroll taxes, and then everything appears on the up and up. Management at Trump's golf course in NJ is getting good at this. Can recognize poor fake documents and can direct the person on where to obtain better ones. |
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Post by canthandlethetecs on Nov 8, 2019 19:39:48 GMT -8
Could it be that many of the illegal immigrants used fradulent SSNs to pass the E-Verify requirements imposed on the employer and thus the employer, per the rule of law, did nothing wrong? You do know that the Gov does not care that illegal immigrants steal identities in this way (as punishment for that violation, if ever found, is not a felony). And the Gov turns right around an enables the fraud and issues another tax ID to illegals come tax time? Surprised you are interested in the rule of law, assuming you are a Democrat. gimme a break, Trump's been using illegals on his properties for years..still is. So if trump gets rid of his illegal immigrant workers you cool with deporting all the rest? |
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Post by Spud on Nov 11, 2019 19:25:55 GMT -8
gimme a break, Trump's been using illegals on his properties for years..still is. So if trump gets rid of his illegal immigrant workers you cool with deporting all the rest? We don't even have to worry about that because he won't. Rich guys don't get rich playing by the "rules". He uses this to get his voting base all worked up and throws a couple high profile enforcement's out there to show that he's doing "something". But he doesn't give two shits about undocuments workers. He just wants to feed the ego train. Want to solve illegal immigration? Start holding companies accountable for hiring undocumented workers...but of course they won't really do that because as one other poster indicated, wages and inflation would go up significantly. |
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Post by canthandlethetecs on Nov 15, 2019 21:09:48 GMT -8
So if trump gets rid of his illegal immigrant workers you cool with deporting all the rest? We don't even have to worry about that because he won't. Rich guys don't get rich playing by the "rules". He uses this to get his voting base all worked up and throws a couple high profile enforcement's out there to show that he's doing "something". But he doesn't give two shits about undocuments workers. He just wants to feed the ego train. Want to solve illegal immigration? Start holding companies accountable for hiring undocumented workers...but of course they won't really do that because as one other poster indicated, wages and inflation would go up significantly. Typical. Won’t answer the question |
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Post by Spud on Nov 19, 2019 7:02:57 GMT -8
We don't even have to worry about that because he won't. Rich guys don't get rich playing by the "rules". He uses this to get his voting base all worked up and throws a couple high profile enforcement's out there to show that he's doing "something". But he doesn't give two shits about undocuments workers. He just wants to feed the ego train. Want to solve illegal immigration? Start holding companies accountable for hiring undocumented workers...but of course they won't really do that because as one other poster indicated, wages and inflation would go up significantly. Typical. Won’t answer the question OK, I'll answer. Sure. Round up all the illegal aliens throughout the entire US and send them back. Just make sure you get all of them...not just the ones people think are stealing jobs. But in typical fashion of people who bury their heads in ideology ahead of common sense, you're looking for absolutes for an issue that doesn't have a simple answer. |
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Post by canthandlethetecs on Nov 19, 2019 16:25:24 GMT -8
Typical. Won’t answer the question OK, I'll answer. Sure. Round up all the illegal aliens throughout the entire US and send them back. Just make sure you get all of them...not just the ones people think are stealing jobs. But in typical fashion of people who bury their heads in ideology ahead of common sense, you're looking for absolutes for an issue that doesn't have a simple answer. I think you’re probably smart enough to understand the point is that while obviously there wouldn’t be a way to be sure to deport every single illegal immigrant, at least trying as opposed to giving out free healthcare and education is the point of those in favor of border security. Those working at trumps house included. |
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