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Post by survalli on Sept 10, 2019 23:49:04 GMT -8
4 RBI's tonight for Franmil, he now has 74 RBI's. 4 RBI's less than Machado.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 11, 2019 10:57:41 GMT -8
4 RBI's tonight for Franmil, he now has 74 RBI's. 4 RBI's less than Machado. He seems to have settled in nicely in his role. As a DH.
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Post by ignoranus on Sept 11, 2019 11:00:33 GMT -8
Was the Franimal officially stolen from the Padres?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2019 6:46:40 GMT -8
Was the Franimal officially stolen from the Padres? Impossible to say. Will be fun to talk about the trade in two years though. All depends on what the parties involved do for their new clubs, no?
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 23, 2019 11:55:01 GMT -8
The way teams are succeeding this year: hitting copious amounts of HR’s. I’m not a fan, but it is the trend. The division leaders: Braves 212, Dodgers 231, Cardinals 167, Twins 258, Astros 226, Yankees 250. These are colossal numbers. To put this into historical perspective these HR numbers will obliterate even some of the steroid era marks (05 Rangers 260, 97 Mariners w 264) This trend will probably continue for the next several years and teams success and failures will be centered around the 3 run HR. There is no denying the effectiveness of the long ball. When Babe Ruth started putting up 50+ HR seasons he changed baseball forever and fueled the greatest dynasty in baseball history. The SB is a thing of the past, a relic from the 1970’s and 80’s, and the Pads traded arguably their best power hitter for a speed guy. Just a follow up on this post from a few weeks ago. HR marks have been obliterated, by multiple teams, the ones going to the playoffs BTW. There is still a week to go..... Astros 277 HR (102 wins) Yankees 298 HR (102 wins) Twins 297 HR (96 wins) Dodgers 268 HR (100 wins) Braves 243 HR (89 wins) Cardinals 197 HR (89 wins) Brewers 242 HR (86 wins) Athletics 250 HR (94 wins) And of course our beloved hapless Padres who smacked a franchise record 215 dingers and tallied a modest 70 wins (29-45 since trading their best power hitter btw....just bringing this up). Monster numbers. This will be remembered as the ultra live ball era and the teams who win do it with the long ball.
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Post by survalli on Sept 23, 2019 12:14:05 GMT -8
In 46 games played, Reyes has 33 RBI, compared to 46 RBI in 99 games with the padres. i guess he has improved with runners in scoring position. Reyes has 116 hits and 79 RBI in 477 AB. Renfroe has 94 hits and 64 RBI's in 479 AB. Meyers has 100 hits and 53 RBI in 478 AB. In nearly 100 less AB Reyes would have more Home Runs than Machado and nearly as many RBI's. Safe to say in 100 more AB he would easily pass the 82 Machado has. Great trade for the Indians. They got a productive player without having to take Meyers or Renfroe.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 23, 2019 12:29:00 GMT -8
The way teams are succeeding this year: hitting copious amounts of HR’s. I’m not a fan, but it is the trend. The division leaders: Braves 212, Dodgers 231, Cardinals 167, Twins 258, Astros 226, Yankees 250. These are colossal numbers. To put this into historical perspective these HR numbers will obliterate even some of the steroid era marks (05 Rangers 260, 97 Mariners w 264) This trend will probably continue for the next several years and teams success and failures will be centered around the 3 run HR. There is no denying the effectiveness of the long ball. When Babe Ruth started putting up 50+ HR seasons he changed baseball forever and fueled the greatest dynasty in baseball history. The SB is a thing of the past, a relic from the 1970’s and 80’s, and the Pads traded arguably their best power hitter for a speed guy. Just a follow up on this post from a few weeks ago. HR marks have been obliterated, by multiple teams, the ones going to the playoffs BTW. There is still a week to go..... Astros 277 HR (102 wins) Yankees 298 HR (102 wins) Twins 297 HR (96 wins) Dodgers 268 HR (100 wins) Braves 243 HR (89 wins) Cardinals 197 HR (89 wins) Brewers 242 HR (86 wins) Athletics 250 HR (94 wins) And of course our beloved hapless Padres who smacked a franchise record 215 dingers and tallied a modest 70 wins (29-45 since trading their best power hitter btw....just bringing this up). Monster numbers. This will be remembered as the ultra live ball era and the teams who win do it with the long ball. At least half of MLB teams are expected to break their HR record this season. They aren't all going to the playoffs It's great that Reyes has settled in as a DH in Cleveland. Maybe if the DH is begun in the NL, the Padres can try to get him back.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2019 15:12:58 GMT -8
In 46 games played, Reyes has 33 RBI, compared to 46 RBI in 99 games with the padres. i guess he has improved with runners in scoring position. Reyes has 116 hits and 79 RBI in 477 AB. Renfroe has 94 hits and 64 RBI's in 479 AB. Meyers has 100 hits and 53 RBI in 478 AB. In nearly 100 less AB Reyes would have more Home Runs than Machado and nearly as many RBI's. Safe to say in 100 more AB he would easily pass the 82 Machado has. Great trade for the Indians. They got a productive player without having to take Meyers or Renfroe. He's hitting .218 with a .294 OBP with Cleveland. His OPS is 113 points lower than it was with the Padres. He has nearly a 38% strikeout rate. He's gone from Petco, a run suppressing ballpark, to Progressive Field, a hitter friendly park (along with almost the entire AL Central, outside of Kansas City)...He hasn't been good in Cleveland. He's been below average, just like he was here.
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Post by survalli on Sept 23, 2019 17:08:43 GMT -8
In 46 games played, Reyes has 33 RBI, compared to 46 RBI in 99 games with the padres. i guess he has improved with runners in scoring position. Reyes has 116 hits and 79 RBI in 477 AB. Renfroe has 94 hits and 64 RBI's in 479 AB. Meyers has 100 hits and 53 RBI in 478 AB. In nearly 100 less AB Reyes would have more Home Runs than Machado and nearly as many RBI's. Safe to say in 100 more AB he would easily pass the 82 Machado has. Great trade for the Indians. They got a productive player without having to take Meyers or Renfroe. He's hitting .218 with a .294 OBP with Cleveland. His OPS is 113 points lower than it was with the Padres. He has nearly a 38% strikeout rate. He's gone from Petco, a run suppressing ballpark, to Progressive Field, a hitter friendly park (along with almost the entire AL Central, outside of Kansas City)...He hasn't been good in Cleveland. He's been below average, just like he was here. below avg, however you want to spin it, he would be the second most productive hitter on the Padre team after Eric Hosmer.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 23, 2019 17:37:11 GMT -8
He's hitting .218 with a .294 OBP with Cleveland. His OPS is 113 points lower than it was with the Padres. He has nearly a 38% strikeout rate. He's gone from Petco, a run suppressing ballpark, to Progressive Field, a hitter friendly park (along with almost the entire AL Central, outside of Kansas City)...He hasn't been good in Cleveland. He's been below average, just like he was here. below avg, however you want to spin it, he would be the second most productive hitter on the Padre team after Eric Hosmer. We should really not be using home runs as a barometer of production.
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Post by survalli on Sept 23, 2019 18:31:18 GMT -8
below avg, however you want to spin it, he would be the second most productive hitter on the Padre team after Eric Hosmer. We should really not be using home runs as a barometer of production. im glad you asked. i was using RBI
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 7:23:12 GMT -8
Franmil got hot for awhile there in late July-late August, but he has been pretty dismal in the last 3 weeks. Overall, he has been a disappointment this season for the Indians.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 8:49:13 GMT -8
We should really not be using home runs as a barometer of production. im glad you asked. i was using RBI Equally terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2019 9:07:51 GMT -8
im glad you asked. i was using RBI Equally terrible. Not necessarily true. While RBI's are of course a product of opportunity, the lineup around you, etc. it's not at all a useless statistic nor unimportant. OBP, OPS, OPS+, and WAR are great - not the end all, be all of measuring a players worth. A player with a low RBI count is not a bad thing given opportunity and circumstance, a player with a high RBI total is absolutely doing something right and providing value by cashing in those opportunities. Just my two cents.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 12:34:15 GMT -8
Not necessarily true. While RBI's are of course a product of opportunity, the lineup around you, etc. it's not at all a useless statistic nor unimportant. OBP, OPS, OPS+, and WAR are great - not the end all, be all of measuring a players worth. A player with a low RBI count is not a bad thing given opportunity and circumstance, a player with a high RBI total is absolutely doing something right and providing value by cashing in those opportunities. Just my two cents. The problem is that it's an outdated metric that doesn't accurately measure production. This is exactly why wRC+ was created, to adjust for league and ballpark factors - On the surface, it looks like Hosmer has had a great season, but he's a below league average hitter when you factor in his positional adjustment. He's essentially been worth 0.0 WAR in two full seasons. Also, things like baserunning matter and get factored in as well. If a guy hits .210 with an OBP of .280, but hits 30 home runs and provides no other value, that doesn't make him a good player, or a good value. Eugenio Suarez, playing in one of the most hitter friendly ballparks, is going to hit 50 home runs. Or a better example, Jorge Soler of the Royals. He has 45 home runs and 112 RBI, whereas Christian Yelich ended up with 44 and 97. Does anyone on the planet think Soler is a better player than Yelich?
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Post by azteca on Sept 24, 2019 18:21:24 GMT -8
In 46 games played, Reyes has 33 RBI, compared to 46 RBI in 99 games with the padres. i guess he has improved with runners in scoring position. Reyes has 116 hits and 79 RBI in 477 AB. Renfroe has 94 hits and 64 RBI's in 479 AB. Meyers has 100 hits and 53 RBI in 478 AB. In nearly 100 less AB Reyes would have more Home Runs than Machado and nearly as many RBI's. Safe to say in 100 more AB he would easily pass the 82 Machado has. Great trade for the Indians. They got a productive player without having to take Meyers or Renfroe. He's hitting .218 with a .294 OBP with Cleveland. His OPS is 113 points lower than it was with the Padres. He has nearly a 38% strikeout rate. He's gone from Petco, a run suppressing ballpark, to Progressive Field, a hitter friendly park (along with almost the entire AL Central, outside of Kansas City)...He hasn't been good in Cleveland. He's been below average, just like he was here. Sometimes you can’t measure dugout, clubhouse presence or team camaraderie with today’s analytics. That seems to be a big part of what Franmil brought to the park, on the field, numbers aside!
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 24, 2019 23:18:26 GMT -8
He's hitting .218 with a .294 OBP with Cleveland. His OPS is 113 points lower than it was with the Padres. He has nearly a 38% strikeout rate. He's gone from Petco, a run suppressing ballpark, to Progressive Field, a hitter friendly park (along with almost the entire AL Central, outside of Kansas City)...He hasn't been good in Cleveland. He's been below average, just like he was here. Sometimes you can’t measure dugout, clubhouse presence or team camaraderie with today’s analytics. That seems to be a big part of what Franmil brought to the park, on the field, numbers aside! Unfortunately, this is a business and not a personality contest. Good human beings do get traded. Team needs winning baseball players at some point though, above all else.
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Post by azteca on Sept 25, 2019 9:18:20 GMT -8
Sometimes you can’t measure dugout, clubhouse presence or team camaraderie with today’s analytics. That seems to be a big part of what Franmil brought to the park, on the field, numbers aside! Unfortunately, this is a business and not a personality contest. Good human beings do get traded. Team needs winning baseball players at some point though, above all else. I didn’t think Franmil was not, or could not be a winning baseball player, so I’ll leave my thoughts at that, other than the hot talent lava better warm up a lot next year. Right now I think that’s a stretch but we’ll see
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 25, 2019 11:05:49 GMT -8
Unfortunately, this is a business and not a personality contest. Good human beings do get traded. Team needs winning baseball players at some point though, above all else. I didn’t think Franmil was not, or could not be a winning baseball player, so I’ll leave my thoughts at that, other than the hot talent lava better warm up a lot next year. Right now I think that’s a stretch but we’ll see Anything is possible, but it speaks volumes that the Indians have already said Reyes is limited to pinch hit duties in their final series against the Nationals, in the thick of a playoff race.
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Post by azteca on Sept 25, 2019 12:39:18 GMT -8
I didn’t think Franmil was not, or could not be a winning baseball player, so I’ll leave my thoughts at that, other than the hot talent lava better warm up a lot next year. Right now I think that’s a stretch but we’ll see Anything is possible, but it speaks volumes that the Indians have already said Reyes is limited to pinch hit duties in their final series against the Nationals, in the thick of a playoff race. I’m not sure it really says anything more than they’re using him the way they wanted to when they acquired him. I might be a little less critical if the Padres outfield was full of defensive stalwarts, but it definitely isn’t.
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