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Post by docmm on Jun 10, 2019 6:45:06 GMT -8
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Post by sdmotohead on Jun 10, 2019 8:14:21 GMT -8
Wow, no Nevada. It'd be nice to see at least 3 or 4 MW schools on that list.
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Post by chris92065 on Jun 10, 2019 8:22:59 GMT -8
Yeah
SDSU made the Jv squad.
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Post by azteccc on Jun 10, 2019 9:12:47 GMT -8
Mid-Major Madness is a pretty good twitter follow and literally nothing else.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jun 10, 2019 10:07:53 GMT -8
Wow, no Nevada. It'd be nice to see at least 3 or 4 MW schools on that list. Since they lost their HC, and most of their good players you couldn't expect much. Utah State is #5, and they should be very good again. The rest will have to earn their way in the rankings. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 11:11:38 GMT -8
I think that Utah St will end up being better than the 5th best mid-major.
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Post by standiego on Jun 10, 2019 14:22:48 GMT -8
Yes now that USU has their 7 foot center returning - could be very good - he who could be NBA first rounder - wonder if he plays for his country team during the summer
Believe they also forgot about some other Mid Major teams , Creighton , Houston, Marquette , Memphis, Cincy ,Xavier , Seton Hall , UCF all named in various polls
possibly Fresno moves into the top 25 of Mid Major group
have hard time seeing Aztecs up there after losing both our guards ( yes we do have quality transfers ) and Jalen - a lot of scoring - plus AG coming off an injury
Yanni is not rated as a top grad transfer( Texas Tech did add a couple of high quality transfers) but the grad transfer guard KJ from Santa Clara is rated about the 17th best grad transfer .
We have major questions up front
Lobos dropped some when their very high quality grad transfer guard/ moved on to the Ducks but they do get a top player from the Buckeyes
Nevada lost their top center but is still out there recruiting could get a highly rated HS player that visited
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Post by RiffelBooks on Jun 10, 2019 16:59:50 GMT -8
Big East is not considered a mid-major in hoops. It's the P6, not the P5. Some would also not consider the top of the AAC as a mid-major, kind of like how the MW used to be not long ago.
Not sure what to make of the list, though. It's June.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jun 10, 2019 18:06:48 GMT -8
This may be nothing more than a semantic quibble, but the MWC is considered a high major conference, not mid-major. Check the annual college basketball preview magazines. The MWC is listed among the high major conferences, while the WCC is mid-major. Of course, individual schools are another matter. Gonzaga is the best example of a member of a mid-major conference that has become a perennial member of the Top-25.
I suggest that we resist the effort to ghettoize conferences such as the MWC. This is basically an effort on the part of the Power-5 conferences to kick sand in the faces of the leagues they consider beneath them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 20:32:21 GMT -8
This may be nothing more than a semantic quibble, but the MWC is considered a high major conference, not mid-major. Check the annual college basketball preview magazines. The MWC is listed among the high major conferences, while the WCC is mid-major. Of course, individual schools are another matter. Gonzaga is the best example of a member of a mid-major conference that has become a perennial member of the Top-25. I suggest that we resist the effort to ghettoize conferences such as the MWC. This is basically an effort on the part of the Power-5 conferences to kick sand in the faces of the leagues they consider beneath them. AzWm It is semantics. The MWC hasn’t been good and neither have we. |
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Post by Frantic on Jun 10, 2019 20:54:09 GMT -8
Things ebb-and-flow, but for now the Big East and the AAC are the only high majors in basketball.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jun 11, 2019 10:08:49 GMT -8
This may be nothing more than a semantic quibble, but the MWC is considered a high major conference, not mid-major. Check the annual college basketball preview magazines. The MWC is listed among the high major conferences, while the WCC is mid-major. Of course, individual schools are another matter. Gonzaga is the best example of a member of a mid-major conference that has become a perennial member of the Top-25. I suggest that we resist the effort to ghettoize conferences such as the MWC. This is basically an effort on the part of the Power-5 conferences to kick sand in the faces of the leagues they consider beneath them. AzWm It is semantics. The MWC hasn’t been good and neither have we. I beg to differ with you on that. No, we have not been great , but we have been fairly good. You don'twin 20 games in a season just on your looks, I say. And, we have upset a couple of TOP 25 teams which is not easy! |
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Post by longtimebooster on Jun 11, 2019 11:11:17 GMT -8
It is semantics. The MWC hasn’t been good and neither have we. I beg to differ with you on that. No, we have not been great , but we have been fairly good. You don'twin 20 games in a season just on your looks, I say. And, over the past two years, we have upset a couple of TOP 25 teams Top 10 team, a pair of Top 15 teams, and a couple Top 25 teams,, which is not easy! FIXED. |
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Post by azteccc on Jun 11, 2019 11:52:18 GMT -8
check the annual college basketball preview magazines The 1980s just faxed over their definitive list and SDSU was rated as a mid-high major, soo.... |
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Post by couldashoulda on Jun 11, 2019 12:15:06 GMT -8
Short rant...who cares what "category" we fall into? I mean, both MBB and FB have shown over the last SEVERAL years that we can beat Power conference foes and lose to Ivy league foes. And what are the definitions of "good" and "great"? I'll leave that to Miriam-Webster..."Good": of a favorable character or tendency. "Great": Notably large in size: HUGE. In supposing that we have been good, but not great, the word Favorable needs some definition: giving a result that is in one's favor.
So, I think by Miriam-Webster's definition we have been good. Were we great under Coach Fisher? At times, I would say we accomplished some HUGE things, like a sweet 16 appearance. So, yeah. But, that didn't happen overnight. Dutcher has a .642 winning percentage in his first two seasons. That would indicate that "the result in our favor" occurred quite a bit more often than not. Thus, good in quality by definition. Has Dutcher achieved greatness in any measure? No. But, I'd rather be good than bad. And of course, I would rather be great than good. But, greatness is fleeting (unless you are Duke, Kentucky, etc.).
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jun 11, 2019 16:50:51 GMT -8
Two decades ago I would have been thrilled to think that SDSU had the 12th best non-power conference basketball program in the country. Now, not so much.
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Post by Frantic on Jun 11, 2019 16:56:04 GMT -8
Gonzaga is the best example of a member of a mid-major conference that has become a perennial member of the Top-25. Gonzaga is really the only one. I don't believe the Big East or the AAC are considered mid-major in basketball. |
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Post by standiego on Jun 12, 2019 9:23:19 GMT -8
Big East is considered the P6 th conference .
AAC has Houston, Memphis, Cincy, UCF and will get the publicity plus schools in a good sized city
Zags lead WCC , this year St Mary's is rated and BYU possibly in the top 50
MW has USU this year plus looking to see if any other school makes jump up - needs to happen during OOC
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Post by tonatiuh on Jun 12, 2019 9:39:42 GMT -8
I beg to differ with you on that. No, we have not been great , but we have been fairly good. You don'twin 20 games in a season just on your looks, I say. And, over the past two years, we have upset a couple of TOP 25 teams Top 10 team, a pair of Top 15 teams, and a couple Top 25 teams,, which is not easy! FIXED. Thanks longtime, but I think he gets what I was trying to relate as regards our team. |
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Post by standiego on Jun 12, 2019 11:14:20 GMT -8
Will be interesting to see this fall how we are rated - when things get real
One thing we really need to eliminate is losing to some non rated teams at home also losing in the last 5 minutes of a game when we have the lead
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