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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 4, 2019 19:52:55 GMT -8
If the team has eyes on a WC spot, they should bring in a veteran Starter. With Cordero and Jankowski coming back the OF depth is significant, move someone and bring in a veteran SP.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2019 10:51:58 GMT -8
With Lamet and possibly Richard becoming available and some minor league options, I don't think we need to waste any young players on a 1 year fix.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2019 10:54:02 GMT -8
The Padres have until July 31st to make their decision. I think they will wait and see where they stand after the All-Star break.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 6, 2019 15:37:26 GMT -8
Tough to find a match in early June, but I do think you'll see increased activity earlier with only one trade deadline now and not two. I would be looking to deal Yates and try to make some sense of the outfield at a minimum.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 6, 2019 21:35:29 GMT -8
Tough to find a match in early June, but I do think you'll see increased activity earlier with only one trade deadline now and not two. I would be looking to deal Yates and try to make some sense of the outfield at a minimum. We have to decide whether we're buying or selling.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 7, 2019 11:32:40 GMT -8
Tough to find a match in early June, but I do think you'll see increased activity earlier with only one trade deadline now and not two. I would be looking to deal Yates and try to make some sense of the outfield at a minimum. We have to decide whether we're buying or selling. I think they will do both.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 8, 2019 9:15:20 GMT -8
We have to decide whether we're buying or selling. I think they will do both. If they are going to make the playoffs they will not trade Yates.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2019 9:55:42 GMT -8
I think they will do both. If they are going to make the playoffs they will not trade Yates. They aren't going to make the playoffs.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 8, 2019 11:59:21 GMT -8
I've literally had this debate ad nauseam with people online, but it makes sense to trade Yates even on the fringes of the wild card. One, you're playing for just that, a wild card. Two, does anyone think this team has enough pitching in the rotation to actually get into the playoffs? Yates will never have more value than he does right now, but trading him doesn't prohibit them from buying more significant assets who fit a long-term window of contention.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2019 12:07:09 GMT -8
I've literally had this debate ad nauseam with people online, but it makes sense to trade Yates even on the fringes of the wild card. One, you're playing for just that, a wild card. Two, does anyone think this team has enough pitching in the rotation to actually get into the playoffs? Yates will never have more value than he does right now, but trading him doesn't prohibit them from buying more significant assets who fit a long-term window of contention. Should the Padres trade Yates, who slides into the closer role, or would it even be just 1 pitcher?
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 8, 2019 13:52:09 GMT -8
Absolutely explore trading Yates. The deadline is going to be crowded.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 8, 2019 14:58:03 GMT -8
If the Padres have a good chance of being the wild card they should take advantage of that. Many wild card teams end up winning the World Series. It's all about who is hot. Padres to go on a 10 game winning streak between now and the trading deadline. Something like that would put them solidly in the Wild Card. Before you scoff at a 10 game winning streak remember that the Padres had a 12-game winning streak in 1999 after they sold off their great 1998 Squad and were in last place. Let's wait and see where we are toward the end of July.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2019 19:48:44 GMT -8
If the Padres have a good chance of being the wild card they should take advantage of that. Many wild card teams end up winning the World Series. It's all about who is hot. Padres to go on a 10 game winning streak between now and the trading deadline. Something like that would put them solidly in the Wild Card. Before you scoff at a 10 game winning streak remember that the Padres had a 12-game winning streak in 1999 after they sold off their great 1998 Squad and were in last place. Let's wait and see where we are toward the end of July. Actually, they won 14 straight that year. It got them to .500 (39-39). After that, they went 35-49 to finish 26 games back of the D-backs in 4th place--2 games ahead of the last place Rockies. The best things about 1999; Tony Gwynn was still playing, the Padres made Phil Nevin their 3rd baseman, and the Padres drafted Jake Peavy. That's about it. The 14 game win streak was similar to a blind squirrel finding a nut once in awhile.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 9, 2019 10:46:44 GMT -8
If the Padres have a good chance of being the wild card they should take advantage of that. Many wild card teams end up winning the World Series. It's all about who is hot. Padres to go on a 10 game winning streak between now and the trading deadline. Something like that would put them solidly in the Wild Card. Before you scoff at a 10 game winning streak remember that the Padres had a 12-game winning streak in 1999 after they sold off their great 1998 Squad and were in last place. Let's wait and see where we are toward the end of July. Actually, they won 14 straight that year. It got them to .500 (39-39). After that, they went 35-49 to finish 26 games back of the D-backs in 4th place--2 games ahead of the last place Rockies. The best things about 1999; Tony Gwynn was still playing, the Padres made Phil Nevin their 3rd baseman, and the Padres drafted Jake Peavy. That's about it. The 14 game win streak was similar to a blind squirrel finding a nut once in awhile. Exactly my point. If that team could go in a 14-game win streak and the Rockies recently went on a big win streak so can the Padres this season. If we make the wildcard we should not weakened this season's team.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 9, 2019 16:40:07 GMT -8
Actually, they won 14 straight that year. It got them to .500 (39-39). After that, they went 35-49 to finish 26 games back of the D-backs in 4th place--2 games ahead of the last place Rockies. The best things about 1999; Tony Gwynn was still playing, the Padres made Phil Nevin their 3rd baseman, and the Padres drafted Jake Peavy. That's about it. The 14 game win streak was similar to a blind squirrel finding a nut once in awhile. Exactly my point. If that team could go in a 14-game win streak and the Rockies recently went on a big win streak so can the Padres this season. If we make the wildcard we should not weakened this season's team. They could also do the same thing they did in '99 and go 14 under .500 the rest of the season after the win streak. This team is not making the playoffs this season.
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Post by AztecBill on Jun 10, 2019 9:42:32 GMT -8
Exactly my point. If that team could go in a 14-game win streak and the Rockies recently went on a big win streak so can the Padres this season. If we make the wildcard we should not weakened this season's team. They could also do the same thing they did in '99 and go 14 under .500 the rest of the season after the win streak. This team is not making the playoffs this season. They are currently 3.5 games out of a wild-card spot. I don't see how anyone could possibly say at this point that the Padres definitively will not make the playoffs.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 10, 2019 10:15:10 GMT -8
They could also do the same thing they did in '99 and go 14 under .500 the rest of the season after the win streak. This team is not making the playoffs this season. They are currently 3.5 games out of a wild-card spot. I don't see how anyone could possibly say at this point that the Padres definitively will not make the playoffs. Actually, it was really easy to type. And to say.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2019 10:18:21 GMT -8
They could also do the same thing they did in '99 and go 14 under .500 the rest of the season after the win streak. This team is not making the playoffs this season. They are currently 3.5 games out of a wild-card spot. I don't see how anyone could possibly say at this point that the Padres definitively will not make the playoffs. 1) The pitching isn't going to last. Paddack and Strahm are going to hit innings walls at some point and there isn't enough quality depth to offset that. 2) The offense is still one of the worst in baseball situationally and in regards to strikeouts/on base percentage. 3) The schedule gets considerably tougher late. Still have to play LA 13 more times alone. 4) There are still serious holes in the roster. You're getting nothing from Myers, Kinsler and the catching position. The offense is not strong enough to offset that. 5) Look at the other wild card contenders. Atlanta. Milwaukee. Philadelphia. Chicago. St. Louis, et al. The Padres aren't on that level yet with regards to consistency and solid overall play. They can hang around .500 in all likelihood which is a giant step forward in progress, but the roster is much more suited for a run at 2020.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 10, 2019 11:48:37 GMT -8
Machado, Myers and Kinsler need to start hitting if this team is going anywhere. Yes they can make a run at a wild card spot, bring in a veteran SP (like Houston did with Verlander a few years back) and make a charge for playoff relevance. Manny Machado didn’t sign here to play sub .500 baseball and the wait til next year chorus has been a constant refrain since 2010.
The team has some extra players along with minor league studs for trade fodder, use that to bring in a veteran SP who can go 7-8 innings. Green is well on the way to burning out his bullpen by July 4th ....again.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 10, 2019 12:13:39 GMT -8
Machado, Myers and Kinsler need to start hitting if this team is going anywhere. Yes they can make a run at a wild card spot, bring in a veteran SP (like Houston did with Verlander a few years back) and make a charge for playoff relevance. Manny Machado didn’t sign here to play sub .500 baseball and the wait til next year chorus has been a constant refrain since 2010. The team has some extra players along with minor league studs for trade fodder, use that to bring in a veteran SP who can go 7-8 innings. Green is well on the way to burning out his bullpen by July 4th ....again. They will likely buy and sell at the trade deadline, but anyone can look at the roster and see it's far more suited for next year. It's just reality.
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