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Post by Gundo on Apr 24, 2019 20:32:26 GMT -8
From his instagram account: aguek33"For those who may not know, this past season I was playing with what’s called a FAI hip impingement. I managed to play throughout the season through my rehab but after getting an MRI a couple of weeks ago, the results showed that I tore my labrum along the way and will need surgery to repair the damage done to my labrum and shave down some excess bone. I am uncertain about my recovery time but it is expected to be somewhere between 4-6 months. The road to recovery won’t be easy, but with God by my side I will be back better than ever." Surgery and rehab this summer into fall. http://instagram.com/p/BwqS_D9BlB1
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 24, 2019 20:42:14 GMT -8
Sounds like he should be good for the start of the season if it all goes according to plan. Hopefully it won't set him back much. Good luck Aguek!
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 24, 2019 22:07:27 GMT -8
Rehab and comeback will depend on whether it is Arthroscope or Open. If Artho 4-6 months depending on rehab could be ready for conference. If Open then Red-Shirt and a slower rehab. Time will tell, once they get inside and look at the damage.
You know what they say "the only minor surgery is to someone else"
Don't quote me on this, I just slept at a Holiday-inn (with a DR. and she laughed at me all night) and only play a doctor on T.V.
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Post by couldashoulda on Apr 25, 2019 6:27:35 GMT -8
I too have a torn labrum in my right hip from years of distance running. It likely needs surgery, but I have put it off because I had shoulder surgery last year and am not quite ready for another 5 months of inactivity and rehab. So, I can't speak to the surgery required for the torn labrum, but I can speak to the pain that this young man endured and played through. Believe me, he should not ever have to prove how tough he is for the rest of his playing career!
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 25, 2019 6:52:44 GMT -8
All together now: Arrrrrggggggghhhhhhh!!!!!
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 8:25:20 GMT -8
Damn. I had the same condition with a FAI and torn and partially separated labrum. I went with the full Safe Surgical Dislocation and Debridement procedure which is the best way to deal with this. I was cleared for unrestricted activity in 10-11 weeks and I was 53 at the time. It is not a pleasant procedure, the first week and a half was terrible. I am hoping he doesn't opt for the this surgery via the scope as the failure rate for that procedure is high. The one I had actually has a longer recovery time than a total hip replacement, but you are not limited in activity with hip preservation surgery. This is a rather common injury with hockey players.
You can actually look up the SDD procedure on YouTube if you want. What they do is have an incision that goes from above your hip down to your IT band. Then they saw through your trochanter so they are not cutting through a lot of muscle. That frees them up to dislocate the hip. From there they use gauges to determine the portions of the ball they need to shave. They reattach the labrum using plugs (mine required 5). They then reattach the trochanter with screws and close the incision. Some people can tolerate the screws but I could not. I had to have mine taken out a year later. He will be looking at some Physical Therapy after this as well, at least 10 weeks.
If anyone has ever had a torn hip labrum they know how painful that is. It feels like a torn groin muscle, that is where the pain reveals itself so you don't think it is hip related. But when it hits the pain is enough to drop yourself to one knee. I was back snow skiing just 12 weeks post op.
Wishing Arop the best in his surgery and recovery.
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 8:36:54 GMT -8
I too have a torn labrum in my right hip from years of distance running. It likely needs surgery, but I have put it off because I had shoulder surgery last year and am not quite ready for another 5 months of inactivity and rehab. So, I can't speak to the surgery required for the torn labrum, but I can speak to the pain that this young man endured and played through. Believe me, he should not ever have to prove how tough he is for the rest of his playing career! I was a distance runner as well, but I tore mine back in 1976 after practice playing some football. Always thought I tore my groin muscle and thought it was just scar tissue. It was never diagnosed until I separated it in 2013 while snow skiing. At that point I was diagnosed with FAI and referred to a surgeon who specializes in hip preservation surgery. I know shoulder surgery is bad but I can tell you this surgery is worse. The worst time is getting in an out of bed each day for the first 10 or so days. If you ever want to talk about the procedure just PM me. My doc was new in San Diego and had other patients pre-op call me to discuss my experience and recovery. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 25, 2019 8:53:39 GMT -8
not exactly the best of news heading into the summer into fall for practice development time .
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 9:02:51 GMT -8
not exactly the best of news heading into the summer into fall for practice development time . My recover time was between 10-11 weeks for unrestricted activity. I was skiing in 12. I did go back a year later to have the screws removed because they caused me bursitis. I was 53 at the time and Arop is younger so I expect him to be back practicing in 12 weeks. But, if he has FAI in one hip he likely has it in the other. You can live and play sports with it but it does increase the likelihood of a labral tear. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 25, 2019 10:18:49 GMT -8
does he get the usual best second year improvement and development to be ready for the 2019 season ? Need a quality replacement for Jalen .
What can he do basketball wise during the 12 weeks
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 10:38:12 GMT -8
does he get the usual best second year improvement and development to be ready for the 2019 season ? Need a quality replacement for Jalen . What can he do basketball wise during the 12 weeks After a week and a half he will be able to move pretty well, but on crutches. I stopped the Vicodin at 10 days but if you would have told me that 5 days earlier I would have said you're crazy. For the first 10 days he will do nothing. My best recommendation would be for him to find a nice, firm leather recliner - something easy to slide in an out of. He will be icing a lot. Sleeping will be tough unless he likes sleeping on his back. I slept with my leg in one of those constant motion machines. I was driving and climbing stairs at 10 days though I was supposed to wait two weeks. I can't recall if I went into PT at 14 or 21 days. There they will work to strengthen the hip. I can't recall how long it was before I lost the crutches, may be less than a month but then walked with a cane for a while. Before 10 weeks he can't do anything athletic. He may be able to shoot FTs but until the bone is fully healed he will be restricted in his activities. Being young he may have an easier time but it takes a minimum of 6-8 weeks for bone to heal. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 10:58:37 GMT -8
does he get the usual best second year improvement and development to be ready for the 2019 season ? Need a quality replacement for Jalen . What can he do basketball wise during the 12 weeks “Usual?” Meh, some players improve. Some players appear to regress when they are being asked to do more. Some get injured and never return to form. Others improve incrementally but without any drastic change. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 11:10:32 GMT -8
does he get the usual best second year improvement and development to be ready for the 2019 season ? Need a quality replacement for Jalen . What can he do basketball wise during the 12 weeks “Usual?” Meh, some players improve. Some players appear to regress when they are being asked to do more. Some get injured and never return to form. Others improve incrementally but without any drastic change. Here we have a thread about a player going into surgery and you have to post your usual negativism again? Give it a rest. |
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 25, 2019 11:13:24 GMT -8
does he get the usual best second year improvement and development to be ready for the 2019 season ? Need a quality replacement for Jalen . What can he do basketball wise during the 12 weeks After a week and a half he will be able to move pretty well, but on crutches. I stopped the Vicodin at 10 days but if you would have told me that 5 days earlier I would have said you're crazy. For the first 10 days he will do nothing. My best recommendation would be for him to find a nice, firm leather recliner - something easy to slide in an out of. He will be icing a lot. Sleeping will be tough unless he likes sleeping on his back. I slept with my leg in one of those constant motion machines. I was driving and climbing stairs at 10 days though I was supposed to wait two weeks. I can't recall if I went into PT at 14 or 21 days. There they will work to strengthen the hip. I can't recall how long it was before I lost the crutches, may be less than a month but then walked with a cane for a while. Before 10 weeks he can't do anything athletic. He may be able to shoot FTs but until the bone is fully healed he will be restricted in his activities. Being young he may have an easier time but it takes a minimum of 6-8 weeks for bone to heal. WOW, Thank you for your rehab description, that was one of the best I have seen. I know each and everyone is different but it gives us a basic understanding of what it is. This is the type of stuff that can happen with overuse. Getting old sucks and this is what could be in-store for us old weekend warrior still wantta-be's who refuse to grow up. Just remember, "the older we get, the better we were" Go Aztecs! and get off my lawn. ***Disclaimer, I am not saying anybody is old |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2019 11:24:44 GMT -8
“Usual?” Meh, some players improve. Some players appear to regress when they are being asked to do more. Some get injured and never return to form. Others improve incrementally but without any drastic change. Here we have a thread about a player going into surgery and you have to post your usual negativism again? Give it a rest. An injury isn’t positive |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 11:30:58 GMT -8
After a week and a half he will be able to move pretty well, but on crutches. I stopped the Vicodin at 10 days but if you would have told me that 5 days earlier I would have said you're crazy. For the first 10 days he will do nothing. My best recommendation would be for him to find a nice, firm leather recliner - something easy to slide in an out of. He will be icing a lot. Sleeping will be tough unless he likes sleeping on his back. I slept with my leg in one of those constant motion machines. I was driving and climbing stairs at 10 days though I was supposed to wait two weeks. I can't recall if I went into PT at 14 or 21 days. There they will work to strengthen the hip. I can't recall how long it was before I lost the crutches, may be less than a month but then walked with a cane for a while. Before 10 weeks he can't do anything athletic. He may be able to shoot FTs but until the bone is fully healed he will be restricted in his activities. Being young he may have an easier time but it takes a minimum of 6-8 weeks for bone to heal. WOW, Thank you for your rehab description, that was one of the best I have seen. I know each and everyone is different but it gives us a basic understanding of what it is. This is the type of stuff that can happen with overuse. Getting old sucks and this is what could be in-store for us old weekend warrior still wantta-be's who refuse to grow up. Just remember, "the older we get, the better we were" Go Aztecs! and get off my lawn. ***Disclaimer, I am not saying anybody is old I don't envy him right now. I only went with hip preservation surgery so that I could continue to ski, also I had no arthritis making me a candidate. They tend to not advocate skiing with a total hip replacement though if you stick with the groomers you are at less risk. I have the same condition in my left hip but no tear. I think I will wait for a THR for that as I know longer ski the double blacks or bumps anyway. A THR actually has an easier recovery time. I expect he will be back to full practice in no more than 4 months but that first 10 days really suck. He may beat that though I wonder if being 6'8" leads to a longer time to be fully unrestricted. I don't recommend using an arthroscopic procedure for this. As my Doc explained you just can't see enough to fix everything as with the SDD procedure. I read too many stories of people undergoing the scope numerous times only to end up with a THR. There are many Docs that will do the procedure but few that have a good success rate at it, at least as of 2013. Playing a sport like BB with a labral tear must have been terrible. You just never know when you will get that sharp, stabbing pain. Once it starts to separate then you get pain all the time, even walking in a straight line. I've read that this is a very common injury with hockey players. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 11:33:10 GMT -8
Here we have a thread about a player going into surgery and you have to post your usual negativism again? Give it a rest. An injury isn’t positive No, but at least discussing the injury is in the context of this thread. Your post is not in the context of the discussion. |
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Post by jp92grad on Apr 25, 2019 12:16:18 GMT -8
WOW, Thank you for your rehab description, that was one of the best I have seen. I know each and everyone is different but it gives us a basic understanding of what it is. This is the type of stuff that can happen with overuse. Getting old sucks and this is what could be in-store for us old weekend warrior still wantta-be's who refuse to grow up. Just remember, "the older we get, the better we were" Go Aztecs! and get off my lawn. ***Disclaimer, I am not saying anybody is old I don't envy him right now. I only went with hip preservation surgery so that I could continue to ski, also I had no arthritis making me a candidate. They tend to not advocate skiing with a total hip replacement though if you stick with the groomers you are at less risk. I have the same condition in my left hip but no tear. I think I will wait for a THR for that as I know longer ski the double blacks or bumps anyway. A THR actually has an easier recovery time. I expect he will be back to full practice in no more than 4 months but that first 10 days really suck. He may beat that though I wonder if being 6'8" leads to a longer time to be fully unrestricted. I don't recommend using an arthroscopic procedure for this. As my Doc explained you just can't see enough to fix everything as with the SDD procedure. I read too many stories of people undergoing the scope numerous times only to end up with a THR. There are many Docs that will do the procedure but few that have a good success rate at it, at least as of 2013. Playing a sport like BB with a labral tear must have been terrible. You just never know when you will get that sharp, stabbing pain. Once it starts to separate then you get pain all the time, even walking in a straight line. I've read that this is a very common injury with hockey players. i use to surf North County a bit back in the day. Their was a guy (about 35-40 yr's old) back in the late 80's early 90's that had a double hip replacement (remember, late 80's dark ages of replacemnts) an this guy RIPPED on a longboard. The only thing was his hip popped out more then once and it was a major ordeal each and everytime! Don't know what ever happened to him but that guy ripped. ***sorry, a little off topic. |
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Post by Den60 on Apr 25, 2019 12:29:06 GMT -8
I don't envy him right now. I only went with hip preservation surgery so that I could continue to ski, also I had no arthritis making me a candidate. They tend to not advocate skiing with a total hip replacement though if you stick with the groomers you are at less risk. I have the same condition in my left hip but no tear. I think I will wait for a THR for that as I know longer ski the double blacks or bumps anyway. A THR actually has an easier recovery time. I expect he will be back to full practice in no more than 4 months but that first 10 days really suck. He may beat that though I wonder if being 6'8" leads to a longer time to be fully unrestricted. I don't recommend using an arthroscopic procedure for this. As my Doc explained you just can't see enough to fix everything as with the SDD procedure. I read too many stories of people undergoing the scope numerous times only to end up with a THR. There are many Docs that will do the procedure but few that have a good success rate at it, at least as of 2013. Playing a sport like BB with a labral tear must have been terrible. You just never know when you will get that sharp, stabbing pain. Once it starts to separate then you get pain all the time, even walking in a straight line. I've read that this is a very common injury with hockey players. i use to surf North County a bit back in the day. Their was a guy (about 35-40 yr's old) back in the late 80's early 90's that had a double hip replacement (remember, late 80's dark ages of replacemnts) an this guy RIPPED on a longboard. The only thing was his hip popped out more then once and it was a major ordeal each and everytime! Don't know what ever happened to him but that guy ripped. ***sorry, a little off topic. With a THR you don't ever want to break your hip, since there is a shaft down the bone to attach it. Breaking could shatter that and then they are trying to put shards back together. Don't see surfing as being something where you tend to break bones. I was told I could ski with a THR but to avoid the steep and the bumps. You definitely couldn't play competitive BB with a THR, or any other contact sport. |
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Post by aztecalum on Apr 25, 2019 12:30:14 GMT -8
Hard questions should be asked of the coaching staff and medical team for playing an injured player and causing further injury. This is getting out of control and some coaches have been held accountable.
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