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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 10:23:10 GMT -8
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Post by azteccc on Mar 31, 2019 10:35:48 GMT -8
The ones hiding are the centrists who thought Biden was their golden goose.
From the left - fck Joe Biden. Heâs as bad as or worse than Hillary on policy, and as creepy as or more so than Hillary. I will not vote for Joe Biden in a primary or a General, no matter who the alternative is. I would likely vote Green again, or write-in.
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Post by davdesid on Mar 31, 2019 10:38:00 GMT -8
The Party has decided Biden has to go. You know how the Soviets would deal with those deemed no longer useful. Georgi Malenkov, former Premier, ended up running a power plant in Khazakstan. Their latest golden boy is some guy from South Bendover named Buttpluggag or something like that. The East Bay Times giddily reported his appearance in SF last week before "a sellout crowd" (350). They breathlessly reported that he has passed Willie Brown's blow-up doll (Harris) in the polls. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 10:59:28 GMT -8
I have a tough time understanding why people continue to be bamboozled by the two major political parties of the United States. I have said it many times. There is no difference between D & R!! They just disguise themselves differently but it's the same Shtick. And the media is completely fΌ©kâŹd up!!
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Post by azteccc on Mar 31, 2019 15:21:34 GMT -8
I have a tough time understanding why people continue to be bamboozled by the two major political parties of the United States. I have said it many times. There is no difference between D & R!! They just disguise themselves differently but it's the same Shtick. And the media is completely fΌ©kâŹd up!! Agree with you there. Whatâs with the great swaths of America that got duped by Drumpf and refuse to admit it though? |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 1, 2019 7:15:08 GMT -8
The ones hiding are the centrists who thought Biden was their golden goose. From the left - fck Joe Biden. Heâs as bad as or worse than Hillary on policy, and as creepy as or more so than Hillary. I will not vote for Joe Biden in a primary or a General, no matter who the alternative is. I would likely vote Green again, or write-in. This mindset only means one thing...FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP...no matter Biden's...or any other Dem nominee's fault's...the alternative is worse...if you're a Dem...and despise the way America is headed...then you should know that a vote for the Green or any other off brand candidate is a wasted vote...so no complaining about the next four years...because that's exactly what you voted for..... |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 1, 2019 7:21:21 GMT -8
One way to eliminate the competition is to accuse (smear) them of a crime no one can possibly substantiate.... "In a Facebook post in early 2016, Ms. Flores endorsed Senator Bernie Sanders for president and became a campaign surrogate. She also served on the board of Our Revolution, the Sanders-aligned advocacy group. âI believe that Bernie Sanders will lead the charge, with many millions of Americans behind him, against the unfettered Wall Street greed that has threatened the very existence of the middle class and shackled so many more to permanent poverty,â she wrote in the Facebook post. âI believe that now, more than ever, America needs a political revolution.â www.nytimes.com/2019/03/31/us/politics/lucy-flores-biden-accuser.html |
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Post by azson on Apr 1, 2019 7:32:52 GMT -8
The ones hiding are the centrists who thought Biden was their golden goose. From the left - fck Joe Biden. Heâs as bad as or worse than Hillary on policy, and as creepy as or more so than Hillary. I will not vote for Joe Biden in a primary or a General, no matter who the alternative is. I would likely vote Green again, or write-in. This mindset only means one thing...FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP...no matter Biden's...or any other Dem nominee's fault's...the alternative is worse...if you're a Dem...and despise the way America is headed...then you should know that a vote for the Green or any other off brand candidate is a wasted vote...so no complaining about the next four years...because that's exactly what you voted for..... CA will go blue regardless who I vote for. You're only right as it pertains to the battleground states. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 1, 2019 14:33:58 GMT -8
This mindset only means one thing...FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP...no matter Biden's...or any other Dem nominee's fault's...the alternative is worse...if you're a Dem...and despise the way America is headed...then you should know that a vote for the Green or any other off brand candidate is a wasted vote...so no complaining about the next four years...because that's exactly what you voted for..... CA will go blue regardless who I vote for. You're only right as it pertains to the battleground states. Neither MI or PA were battleground states...both have gone to the Dems in the last six or seven cycles...yet...folks of your mindset either protest voted (Bernie Bots) or failed to show (African Americans) because...well it will go blue regardless...what happened?...Dems lost both states by 30,000 votes...hello President S-hole...the rise of racism, idiotism, and the beginnings of the downfall of America...this travesty could've been prevented...those votes could have easily been made up in Detroit or Philly...but people thought they had a protest vote to give...and didn't vote their best interest.....those who forget negative history...are bound to repeat it.... |
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Post by azson on Apr 1, 2019 15:10:00 GMT -8
CA will go blue regardless who I vote for. You're only right as it pertains to the battleground states. Neither MI or PA were battleground states...both have gone to the Dems in the last six or seven cycles...yet...folks of your mindset either protest voted (Bernie Bots) or failed to show (African Americans) because...well it will go blue regardless...what happened?...Dems lost both states by 30,000 votes...hello President S-hole...the rise of racism, idiotism, and the beginnings of the downfall of America...this travesty could've been prevented...those votes could have easily been made up in Detroit or Philly...but people thought they had a protest vote to give...and didn't vote their best interest.....those who forget negative history...are bound to repeat it.... Both MI & PA were battleground states prior to 2016 election â if one was paying attention. Unfortunately the democratic nom was one of those not paying attention. What baffles me is that you and those like you continue to be angry at those like me instead of those who truly deserve the anger, i.e. the one who ran a milquetoast, misguided campaign and lost an unloseable election...she who forgot negative history from 2000...was bound to repeat it.... www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/trumps-road-to-victory/507203/michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/ |
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Post by azteccc on Apr 1, 2019 16:12:33 GMT -8
The ones hiding are the centrists who thought Biden was their golden goose. From the left - fck Joe Biden. Heâs as bad as or worse than Hillary on policy, and as creepy as or more so than Hillary. I will not vote for Joe Biden in a primary or a General, no matter who the alternative is. I would likely vote Green again, or write-in. This mindset only means one thing...FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP...no matter Biden's...or any other Dem nominee's fault's...the alternative is worse... if you're a Dem...and despise the way America is headed...then you should know that a vote for the Green or any other off brand candidate is a wasted vote...so no complaining about the next four years...because that's exactly what you voted for..... I have no problem being considered a non-Democrat. At this point, proudly claiming youâre a DNC or DCCC-loyal Democrat is a stain, imo. So, either we burn the current Dem power structure to the ground, and people like me will consider helping to rebuild and be proud Dems in the future... or consider me a DSA-leaning independent, that will be sitting right where Iâve always been. If that is a problem electorally for Democrats, then convince me that you deserve my vote instead of convincing some âcentristâ somewhere that you deserve his/hers - canât have us both. We tried the blue no matter who strategy in 2016. The second worst candidate in history cheated through a primary all while handpicking the worst candidate in history to oppose to her, because she assumed it was an easy win. She lost. That loss rests solely on those who elevated such a weak candidate, while also elevating this POS they lost to. Those who fail to learn the correct lessons from 2016 are the ones who will be responsible for four more years of Drumpf. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 1, 2019 16:53:49 GMT -8
Neither MI or PA were battleground states...both have gone to the Dems in the last six or seven cycles...yet...folks of your mindset either protest voted (Bernie Bots) or failed to show (African Americans) because...well it will go blue regardless...what happened?...Dems lost both states by 30,000 votes...hello President S-hole...the rise of racism, idiotism, and the beginnings of the downfall of America...this travesty could've been prevented...those votes could have easily been made up in Detroit or Philly...but people thought they had a protest vote to give...and didn't vote their best interest.....those who forget negative history...are bound to repeat it.... Both MI & PA were battleground states prior to 2016 election â if one was paying attention. Unfortunately the democratic nom was one of those not paying attention. What baffles me is that you and those like you continue to be angry at those like me instead of those who truly deserve the anger, i.e. the one who ran a milquetoast, misguided campaign and lost an unloseable election...she who forgot negative history from 2000...was bound to repeat it.... www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/trumps-road-to-victory/507203/michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/As I stated...MI and PA were not battleground states...the only difference between them and CA is 2016 where the former went for the Russian bot okie doke...and the latter did not...the former state's demographics were conducive to believing Trump's and Putin's doo doo...to vote against their best interest...I guess you showed her whose boss...fortunately...CA has enough minorities who vote their best to override those who don't...but you never know for sure...lastly...nobody is angry...the fact is she was the nominee...she won it fair and square...what was the alternative?...Bernie?...we would've gotten our ass kicked...would've even lost the popular vote...yep...minorities...the base and backbone of the Dem party...rejected him by a large margin...that's why he didn't win the nominee...so Hillary was the best we had going...so win the election with her...then hold her accountable for her actions...can't hold Trump accountable for his fiasco...so what did you or your ilk win by messing off your vote? PA voting history: www.270towin.com/states/PennsylvaniaMI voting history: www.270towin.com/states/MichiganCA voting history: www.270towin.com/states/California |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Apr 1, 2019 17:31:06 GMT -8
This mindset only means one thing...FOUR MORE YEARS OF TRUMP...no matter Biden's...or any other Dem nominee's fault's...the alternative is worse... if you're a Dem...and despise the way America is headed...then you should know that a vote for the Green or any other off brand candidate is a wasted vote...so no complaining about the next four years...because that's exactly what you voted for..... I have no problem being considered a non-Democrat. At this point, proudly claiming youâre a DNC or DCCC-loyal Democrat is a stain, imo. So, either we burn the current Dem power structure to the ground, and people like me will consider helping to rebuild and be proud Dems in the future... or consider me a DSA-leaning independent, that will be sitting right where Iâve always been. If that is a problem electorally for Democrats, then convince me that you deserve my vote instead of convincing some âcentristâ somewhere that you deserve his/hers - canât have us both. We tried the blue no matter who strategy in 2016. The second worst candidate in history cheated through a primary all while handpicking the worst candidate in history to oppose to her, because she assumed it was an easy win. She lost. That loss rests solely on those who elevated such a weak candidate, while also elevating this POS they lost to. Those who fail to learn the correct lessons from 2016 are the ones who will be responsible for four more years of Drumpf. I'm glad we're having this discussion...how the hell did she cheat?...what did she do?...what backroom deal was done to make her the nominee?...here some facts:women, Blacks, liberals, and people who call themselves Democrats...didn't like Bernie...white men liked Bernie...now let's at the demographics of the Dem party...who is the base and most loyal to the party...here's a hint...it ain't white men...it's Black women...so when they swept through the Dem South during primary...where darn near all Dems are Black in those states...Bernie got his ass kicked and lost badly...and everywhere the population was not at least 80 percent white...Bernie lost...not only did he lose Blacks...he lost Hispanics and Asians...in other words...Bernie lost the Obama coalition...where one needs the minority vote plus 30 percent of the white population...these whites are mostly women and people who consider themselves Democrats...so how was he going to win the nomination with just the white male vote?...Hillary did not win because she gambled on white women in rural areas...put her resources on it...picked an all-white ticket...to appeal to white men who hate seeing a women surpass them...and who mostly vote Republican...and ignored the base and most loyal group in the party...white women across America...not only in rural area, but the suburbs... let her down...and just enough Blacks PA and MI did not vote...that's why she lost...it wasn't cause she was a bad pick...she was the most qualified in the presidential race...she just used a bad strategy...this time around...you see the candidates are not appealing to the bush...but to bird in the hand...rural white America...white men...that's a loser...they are maximizing getting out who is loyal to the Dems...and this is where Dem white men may be feeling they have no place to go but some alternative ticket...so they can be in charge again...that seems like a personal trip that I won't begin to unpack...bottom line is...what's your priority?...ideology...or demographics?.... THE WHITENESS OF BERNIE SANDERS' SUPPORTERS"Of course, these patterns aren't written in stone. It's possible African Americans could shift into Sanders' camp at some point, although it's hard to know what set of events would bring that about. It's also certainly possible that the party could nominate someone when one-fifth of its voters are strongly in favor of someone else. But those who see Sanders pulling a re-play of Obama's 2008 upset should recognize that there is a substantial and pivotal group almost entirely absent from the former's coalition." psmag.com/news/the-whiteness-of-bernie-sanders-supporters |
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Post by azson on Apr 2, 2019 13:09:57 GMT -8
Both MI & PA were battleground states prior to 2016 election â if one was paying attention. Unfortunately the democratic nom was one of those not paying attention. What baffles me is that you and those like you continue to be angry at those like me instead of those who truly deserve the anger, i.e. the one who ran a milquetoast, misguided campaign and lost an unloseable election...she who forgot negative history from 2000...was bound to repeat it.... www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/trumps-road-to-victory/507203/michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/As I stated...MI and PA were not battleground states...the only difference between them and CA is 2016 where the former went for the Russian bot okie doke...and the latter did not...the former state's demographics were conducive to believing Trump's and Putin's doo doo...to vote against their best interest...I guess you showed her whose boss...fortunately...CA has enough minorities who vote their best to override those who don't...but you never know for sure...lastly...nobody is angry...the fact is she was the nominee...she won it fair and square...what was the alternative?...Bernie?...we would've gotten our ass kicked...would've even lost the popular vote...yep...minorities...the base and backbone of the Dem party...rejected him by a large margin...that's why he didn't win the nominee...so Hillary was the best we had going...so win the election with her...then hold her accountable for her actions...can't hold Trump accountable for his fiasco...so what did you or your ilk win by messing off your vote? PA voting history: www.270towin.com/states/PennsylvaniaMI voting history: www.270towin.com/states/MichiganCA voting history: www.270towin.com/states/CaliforniaYouâre mistaking me for someone who wanted to âshow her whoâs bossâ and âmessing offâ my vote. Thatâs not how I roll, I vote with my conscience and who best shares my core values. HRC did not. That said, if I thought there was any chance in hell CA wasnât going blue (unlike MI and PA, which it was clear prior to the election there was a very good chance for a red surprise â for some obtuse reason youâre continuing to dispute that?) I would have swallowed the bitter pill and voted for her. As for Bernie, he actually beat HRC in the primaries in ~20 states, including the aforementioned MI (which should have been wake-up call for her to realize that she was dealing with a sea change, populist election) so I donât buy your âass kickedâ assumption. I guarantee you one thing: he wouldnât have screwed the pooch by stooping to the orange clownâs level with the idiotic âdeplorablesâ statement. One could argue that alone cost her the election. You say youâre not angry and Iâll have to take you at your word (although your attacking language towards me and cc makes me question you). But I will say youâre barking up the wrong tree. If you can at least admit the dems are susceptible to remarkably uninspired campaigns which allow repubs to steal elections they have no business winning (i.e. 2000/2016) then we can agree on a middle ground and go from there. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 3, 2019 21:42:35 GMT -8
The Party has decided Biden has to go. You know how the Soviets would deal with those deemed no longer useful. Georgi Malenkov, former Premier, ended up running a power plant in Khazakstan.
Their latest golden boy is some guy from South Bendover named Buttpluggag or something like that. The East Bay Times giddily reported his appearance in SF last week before "a sellout crowd" (350). They breathlessly reported that he has passed Willie Brown's blow-up doll (Harris) in the polls. I thought it was in Siberia. Anyway, not a plum assignment, but better than a bullet. AzWm |
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Post by ptsdthor on Apr 4, 2019 9:44:19 GMT -8
The Biden saga is interesting. I can't figure if this is the MSM and DNC getting his "bad news" out early to see if he can survive with White Women before he announces or if the extreme left of his party/media is trying to take him out fearing another ho-hum candidate that does not resonate with all their favorite victim classes?
Hillary lost white women and that likely cost her the '16 election but Biden would probably do better than Hillary with them even with his creepiness. Perhaps better with males too and not too much worse with people of color (if at all). With the institutionalized voter fraud and the tons of clueless leftists in the dark blue states, a Democrat Ceasar's horse could win in those states. All Joe would have to do is flip a couple toss-up states like VA, PA, OH, WI to win and he is probably the best candidate to do that vs Trump. Motivated bases are good but the independents decide the Presidential election. Will the Dems go with the traditional "hair apparent" Crazy Uncle Joe or get out over their skis with Little Beto, Kooky Bernie or Willie's girl Kamala?
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Post by davdesid on Apr 4, 2019 12:48:30 GMT -8
The Party has decided Biden has to go. You know how the Soviets would deal with those deemed no longer useful. Georgi Malenkov, former Premier, ended up running a power plant in Khazakstan.
Their latest golden boy is some guy from South Bendover named Buttpluggag or something like that. The East Bay Times giddily reported his appearance in SF last week before "a sellout crowd" (350). They breathlessly reported that he has passed Willie Brown's blow-up doll (Harris) in the polls. I thought it was in Siberia. Anyway, not a plum assignment, but better than a bullet. AzWm Under Stalin, it likely would have been a bullet. After he died, they were trying to get the world to think they were cleaning up their act. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 4, 2019 14:06:01 GMT -8
I thought it was in Siberia. Anyway, not a plum assignment, but better than a bullet. AzWm Under Stalin, it likely would have been a bullet. After he died, they were trying to get the world to think they were cleaning up their act. I think that is pretty much true. Today, one party countries (Russia, China, Vietnam, etc.) are less likely to simply kill anyone they think may pose a threat to their power. (However, being both totalitarian and paranoid, they sure find a lot of threats!) Having total control of the armed forces and police, not to mention influence on the economy, there are plenty of things those governments can do to you short of murder. AzWm |
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