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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 13:27:01 GMT -8
Has Shakur been granted another year to play in 2019-20 ? That’s a good question. He was a senior last year
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 13:28:38 GMT -8
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Post by Frantic on Mar 29, 2019 13:33:53 GMT -8
The article is dated March 6.
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Post by johnnyutah on Mar 29, 2019 13:48:35 GMT -8
The article is dated March 6. I believe he was linking that in reference to whether he could play another year. From the article: As much as I want to be excited about this, (1) I still think this could be a troll job and (2) are guys even allowed to transfer from one MW school to another? I can't think of any examples. I know they recently changed the rules around transfers still needing permission, but I thought the conferences still decided if you can transfer within the conference. Maybe grad transfers are different?
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Post by Frantic on Mar 29, 2019 14:00:21 GMT -8
The article is dated March 6. I believe he was linking that in reference to whether he could play another year. From the article: As much as I want to be excited about this, (1) I still think this could be a troll job and (2) are guys even allowed to transfer from one MW school to another? I can't think of any examples. I know they recently changed the rules around transfers still needing permission, but I thought the conferences still decided if you can transfer within the conference. Maybe grad transfers are different? Juiston will be a grad transfer and immediately eligible. I'm not sure if any conference can have a restriction on grad transfers.
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Post by mactec on Mar 29, 2019 15:06:04 GMT -8
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Mar 29, 2019 15:09:10 GMT -8
He was out since Jan 1st. So couldn' he be eligible once the spring semester starts as a mid year transfer and then maybe get a redshirt for another year?
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 29, 2019 17:13:36 GMT -8
As far as affecting next year's team, I think he'd possibly make a bigger impact than Jaden or Hommes. The guy is strong as an ox and physical, and can also hit the midrange and rebound. Very athletic defender as well, and is way older than Jaden so he'd be more ready to make an immediate impact imo. I'd probably still rather have Jaden since he's a McDonald's AA and obviously a special talent who will go top 5 in the draft probably, but I wouldn't be upset whatsoever if we miss on Jaden and get Juiston instead. We need someone physical and versatile like that so badly. Like a more offensively skilled Josh Davis Go after both Shakur and Jaden. Jaden would be a better 3 than 4. I don't see how getting Shakur effects us on Jaden. I'd absolutely lose it if that happened
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Post by Aztecole on Mar 29, 2019 17:23:57 GMT -8
Aren’t the rules different for a standard transfer vs. a grad transfer?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2019 17:40:47 GMT -8
Aren’t the rules different for a standard transfer vs. a grad transfer? I don’t think that a conference can dictate where a grad student enrolls and completes their final year of eligibility
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Post by azman on Mar 29, 2019 18:32:33 GMT -8
But every transfer forfeits one season of competition, no matter where they transfer. I always thought there were no conference restrictions on grad transfers, but regular transfers within the same conference would have to sit out 2 years, so it never happens.
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Post by Frantic on Mar 29, 2019 18:39:15 GMT -8
But every transfer forfeits one season of competition, no matter where they transfer. I always thought there were no conference restrictions on grad transfers, but regular transfers within the same conference would have to sit out 2 years, so it never happens. Grad transfers are immediately eligible.
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Post by azman on Mar 29, 2019 19:26:02 GMT -8
But every transfer forfeits one season of competition, no matter where they transfer. I always thought there were no conference restrictions on grad transfers, but regular transfers within the same conference would have to sit out 2 years, so it never happens. Grad transfers are immediately eligible. Right, but we are talking about intra-conference transfers. Do they have to sit one or two years transferring in the same conference?
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Post by Frantic on Mar 30, 2019 4:45:01 GMT -8
Grad transfers are immediately eligible. Right, but we are talking about intra-conference transfers. Do they have to sit one or two years transferring in the same conference? I see, you were referring to the MWC Rule Book. Yes it appears to be a blanket rule for all intra-MWC transfers. I don't see anything in the Rule Book about treating grad transfers differently.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 30, 2019 5:54:28 GMT -8
I don't think this applies to graduate transfers, as subsection A would disqualify grad transfers altogether no?
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Post by mactec on Mar 30, 2019 7:05:44 GMT -8
I don't think this applies to graduate transfers, as subsection A would disqualify grad transfers altogether no? Yeah tbh I really don't know now that I've reread it a few times I can't tell
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Mar 30, 2019 8:06:24 GMT -8
When UNLV onboarded TJ Hamburglar, he immediately arranged for a video conference with the entire team. Every. single. player showed up with the exception of one - Shakur. When they put on their dog and pony show a day or two later and picked up TJ Berders at LAS, they flew the guy - pretty much across the street - in a helicopter, rolled out a literal red carpet, and brought out the locals to cheer. Every. single. one. of those players showed up for the presser. Except one - you guessed it.
Why is this? Well, it seems apparent he wasn't buying what they were selling. So howcome?
It is purely speculative, but I'd guess Marv. I'd guess the unceremonious, prematurely-truncated end to his tenure at UNLV, when he had been helping them improve Y2Y even though he was brought in at the midnight hour with all of two - two - schollie players left on the roster, combined with the fact that while Coach Cornfed was given the VIP treatment upon his arrival, Marv was, by contrast, called a cab for a one-way ride to the airport.
Marv got jobbed. And Shakur surely saw this, his loyalty to his HC conflicting with his Allegiance to the State (of dysfunction).
So... Marv gets jobbed and one of his best recruits feels snubbed by association. If he told him, "Coach, I don't like how they treated you. I don't want to play here anymore..." Where might MM suggest he go?
We've always been about family on the Mesa. Fish had no small role in calling and shilling to get Marv the HC gig in Vegas. So is it a stretch to think that if and when Shakur and MM had "the talk," Marv might have suggested, "Go West, young man... these are not the dumb f*cking droids you are looking for. Your family awaits you."
I think not. As I said, it's all speculative, but it's not a large leap to think the warm familial ties between Marv and this program - and especially both Fish and Dutch - very well could have factored into the guidance of where Shakur should go to finish his playing career, because the one thing that appears for certain at this point is that it won't be at UNLV.
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 30, 2019 9:21:20 GMT -8
When UNLV onboarded TJ Hamburglar, he immediately arranged for a video conference with the entire team. Every. single. player showed up with the exception of one - Shakur. When they put on their dog and pony show a day or two later and picked up TJ Berders at LAS, they flew the guy - pretty much across the street - in a helicopter, rolled out a literal red carpet, and brought out the locals to cheer. Every. single. one. of those players showed up for the presser. Except one - you guessed it. Why is this? Well, it seems apparent he wasn't buying what they were selling. So howcome? It is purely speculative, but I'd guess Marv. I'd guess the unceremonious, prematurely-truncated end to his tenure at UNLV, when he had been helping them improve Y2Y even though he was brought in at the midnight hour with all of two - two - schollie players left on the roster, combined with the fact that while Coach Cornfed was given the VIP treatment upon his arrival, Marv was, by contrast, called a cab for a one-way ride to the airport. Marv got jobbed. And Shakur surely saw this, his loyalty to his HC conflicting with his Allegiance to the State (of dysfunction). So... Marv gets jobbed and one of his best recruits feels snubbed by association. If he told him, "Coach, I don't like how they treated you. I don't want to play here anymore..." Where might MM suggest he go? We've always been about family on the Mesa. Fish had no small role in calling and shilling to get Marv the HC gig in Vegas. So is it a stretch to think that if and when Shakur and MM had "the talk," Marv might have suggested, "Go West, young man... these are not the dumb f*cking droids you are looking for. Your family awaits you." I think not. As I said, it's all speculative, but it's not a large leap to think the warm familial ties between Marv and this program - and especially both Fish and Dutch - very well could have factored into the guidance of where Shakur should go to finish his playing career, because the one thing that appears for certain at this point is that it won't be at UNLV. Could not agree more - UNLV was lucky to have Menzies. Bring Menzies and Shakur back to the Mesa!
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Post by standiego on Mar 30, 2019 14:06:03 GMT -8
would guess that the New Coach at UNLV will try to keep him there . As Shakur goes over his options .
Has it been definitely declared by NCAA if he gets another full year to play .? Also is there clear definition if a Grad transfer can go to any school in any conference.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2019 14:49:42 GMT -8
would guess that the New Coach at UNLV will try to keep him there . As Shakur goes over his options . Has it been definitely declared by NCAA if he gets another full year to play .? Also is there clear definition if a Grad transfer can go to any school in any conference. Read the thread. It has been reported in the media that he has another year of eligibility with no need to apply for NCAA approval.
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