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Post by AztecBill on Feb 25, 2019 17:29:52 GMT -8
MLB.com will list the top 30 Padres 2019 Prospects on March 1. Below are the top 30 from last season: Player | Pos | DOB | Age | Aquired | MLB Ranking | 2018 Padres Rank | Frenando Tatis Jr | SS | 1/2/1999 | 20.15 | Trade CWS - James Shield | 2 | 1 | Mackenzie Gore | LHP | 2/24/1999 | 20.00 | 2017 Draft 1st(3) | 13 | 2 | Francisco Mejjia | C | 10/27/1995 | 23.33 | Trade CLE - Brad Hand | 26 | 3 | Luis Urias | 2B/SS | 6/3/1997 | 21.73 | 2013 Foreign free Agent | 27 | 4 | Chris Paddack | RHP | 1/8/1996 | 23.13 | Trade Mia - Fernando Rodney | 35 | 5 | Adrian Morejon | LHP | 2/27/1999 | 20.00 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 46 | 6 | Michel Baez | RHP | 1/21/1996 | 23.10 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 57 | 7 | Logan Allen | LHP | 5/23/1997 | 21.76 | Trade BOS - Craig Kimbrell | 76 | 8 | Luis Patino | RHP | 10/26/1999 | 19.34 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 83 | 9 | Ryan Weathers | LHP | 12/17/1999 | 19.19 | 2018 Draft 1st(7) | 92 | 10 | Cal Quantrill | RHP | 2/10/1995 | 24.04 | 2016 Draft 1st(8) | | 11 | Anderson Espinoza | RHP | 3/9/1998 | 20.97 | Trade BOS - Drew Pomeranz | | 12 | Buddy Reed | OF | 4/27/1995 | 23.83 | 2016 Draft 2nd(48) | | 13 | Jacob Nix | RHP | 1/9/1996 | 23.13 | 2015 Draft 3rd(86) | | 14 | Josh Naylor | OF/1B | 6/22/1997 | 21.68 | 2015 Draft 1st(12) | | 15 | Tirso Ornelas | OF | 3/11/2000 | 18.96 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 16 | Esteury Ruiz | 2B/3B | 2/15/1999 | 20.03 | Trade KC +2 - Cahill, Maurer, Buchter | | 17 | Xavier Edwards | SS | 8/9/1999 | 19.55 | 2018 Draft CBA(38) | | 18 | Jeisson Rosario | OF | 10/22/1999 | 19.35 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 19 | Gabriel Arias | SS | 2/27/2000 | 19.00 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 20 | Reggie Lawson | RHP | 8/2/1997 | 21.57 | 2016 Draft CBB(71) | | 21 | Andres Munoz | RHP | 1/16/1999 | 20.11 | 2015 Foreign free Agent | | 22 | Hudson Potts | 3B | 10/28/1998 | 20.33 | 2016 Draft 1st(24) | | 23 | Luis Campusano | C | 9/29/1998 | 20.41 | 2017 Draft 2nd(39) | | 24 | Austin Allen | C/1B | 1/16/1994 | 25.11 | 2015 Draft 4th(117) | | 25 | Dylan Coleman | RHP | 9/16/1996 | 22.44 | Draft 2018 4th(111) | | 26 | Grant Little | OF | 7/8/1997 | 21.64 | Draft 2018 CBB(74) | | 27 | Edward Olivares | OF | 3/6/1996 | 22.98 | Trade TOR - Yangervis Solarte | | 28 | Pedro Avila | RHP | 1/14/1997 | 22.12 | Trade Wash - Derek Norris | | 29 | Owen Miller | SS | 11/15/1996 | 22.28 | 2018 Draft 3rd(84) | | 30 |
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Post by AztecBill on Feb 25, 2019 17:35:53 GMT -8
Age is as of today. I added how they were acquired because I can never remember all those trades. It is interesting that 20% of the top 30 players were from the 2016 foreign free agent signings. The Padres went in full hog during the last season that Foreign free agent money was unrestricted. After they release the 2019 list I will update with the 2019 rankings adding any new players. I included DOB so when I load back to Excel I can recalculate age.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 26, 2019 0:21:40 GMT -8
MLB.com will list the top 30 Padres 2019 Prospects on March 1. Below are the top 30 from last season: Player | Pos | DOB | Age | Aquired | MLB Ranking | 2018 Padres Rank | Frenando Tatis Jr | SS | 1/2/1999 | 20.15 | Trade CWS - James Shield | 2 | 1 | Mackenzie Gore | LHP | 2/24/1999 | 20.00 | 2017 Draft 1st(3) | 13 | 2 | Francisco Mejjia | C | 10/27/1995 | 23.33 | Trade CLE - Brad Hand | 26 | 3 | Luis Urias | 2B/SS | 6/3/1997 | 21.73 | 2013 Foreign free Agent | 27 | 4 | Chris Paddack | RHP | 1/8/1996 | 23.13 | Trade Mia - Fernando Rodney | 35 | 5 | Adrian Morejon | LHP | 2/27/1999 | 20.00 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 46 | 6 | Michel Baez | RHP | 1/21/1996 | 23.10 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 57 | 7 | Logan Allen | LHP | 5/23/1997 | 21.76 | Trade BOS - Craig Kimbrell | 76 | 8 | Luis Patino | RHP | 10/26/1999 | 19.34 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 83 | 9 | Ryan Weathers | LHP | 12/17/1999 | 19.19 | 2018 Draft 1st(7) | 92 | 10 | Cal Quantrill | RHP | 2/10/1995 | 24.04 | 2016 Draft 1st(8) | | 11 | Anderson Espinoza | RHP | 3/9/1998 | 20.97 | Trade BOS - Drew Pomeranz | | 12 | Buddy Reed | OF | 4/27/1995 | 23.83 | 2016 Draft 2nd(48) | | 13 | Jacob Nix | RHP | 1/9/1996 | 23.13 | 2015 Draft 3rd(86) | | 14 | Josh Naylor | OF/1B | 6/22/1997 | 21.68 | 2015 Draft 1st(12) | | 15 | Tirso Ornelas | OF | 3/11/2000 | 18.96 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 16 | Esteury Ruiz | 2B/3B | 2/15/1999 | 20.03 | Trade KC +2 - Cahill, Maurer, Buchter | | 17 | Xavier Edwards | SS | 8/9/1999 | 19.55 | 2018 Draft CBA(38) | | 18 | Jeisson Rosario | OF | 10/22/1999 | 19.35 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 19 | Gabriel Arias | SS | 2/27/2000 | 19.00 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | 20 | Reggie Lawson | RHP | 8/2/1997 | 21.57 | 2016 Draft CBB(71) | | 21 | Andres Munoz | RHP | 1/16/1999 | 20.11 | 2015 Foreign free Agent | | 22 | Hudson Potts | 3B | 10/28/1998 | 20.33 | 2016 Draft 1st(24) | | 23 | Luis Campusano | C | 9/29/1998 | 20.41 | 2017 Draft 2nd(39) | | 24 | Austin Allen | C/1B | 1/16/1994 | 25.11 | 2015 Draft 4th(117) | | 25 | Dylan Coleman | RHP | 9/16/1996 | 22.44 | Draft 2018 4th(111) | | 26 | Grant Little | OF | 7/8/1997 | 21.64 | Draft 2018 CBB(74) | | 27 | Edward Olivares | OF | 3/6/1996 | 22.98 | Trade TOR - Yangervis Solarte | | 28 | Pedro Avila | RHP | 1/14/1997 | 22.12 | Trade Wash - Derek Norris | | 29 | Owen Miller | SS | 11/15/1996 | 22.28 | 2018 Draft 3rd(84) | | 30 |
All prospects are suspects until they perform at the big league level. I am just hoping that with all the propects the Padres have, some of them will take the next step and be bonafide major league players for the Padres.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 26, 2019 8:37:01 GMT -8
One of those players makes his spring debut today in Chris Paddack...and I'm stoked, even if it is only 2 innings. 12:05 on FSSD.
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Post by AztecBill on Feb 26, 2019 11:39:24 GMT -8
I would like to see Logan Allen pitch. He's not rated as highly as Paddack but is younger and had a better season at a higher level. Putting up incredible numbers has to count for something.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 27, 2019 9:16:17 GMT -8
Logan didn't have a better season, Bill.
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Post by ignoranus on Feb 27, 2019 10:23:40 GMT -8
Who the heck is this unheralded Alderlin Rodriguez that smacked two homers the other day?
The next Franmil Reyes?
Why no info about the guy?
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 27, 2019 10:39:36 GMT -8
Rodriguez is a minor league castoff from the Orioles. Good story, but no.
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Post by ignoranus on Feb 27, 2019 11:22:46 GMT -8
TYVM for your swift response!
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Post by AztecBill on Feb 28, 2019 17:40:46 GMT -8
Logan didn't have a better season, Bill. Logan Allen is two years younger he pitched in double-a and Triple-A. He was the Texas league pitcher of the year and in five games in Triple-A he had a era under 2. That is a better season no matter how you calculate it. Logan Allen made his debut today in the third and fourth inning gave up no runs one hit one strikeout. Logan Allen had a better era in five starts in AAA then paddack did in 7 starts in single A. While again being 2 years younger
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 28, 2019 18:20:45 GMT -8
Logan didn't have a better season, Bill. Logan Allen is two years younger he pitched in double-a and Triple-A. He was the Texas league pitcher of the year and in five games in Triple-A he had a era under 2. That is a better season no matter how you calculate it. Logan Allen made his debut today in the third and fourth inning gave up no runs one hit one strikeout. Logan Allen had a better era in five starts in AAA then paddack did in 7 starts in single A. While again being 2 years younger If you're going to compare their ages, you have to throw in that Paddack missed 22 months of development time or he likely is already a big leaguer. His ERA in El Paso was technically better. He also walked 13 batters in 27.2 innings, whereas Paddack walked 8 in 90 innings. Allen was worse by almost every conceivable statistic outside of ERA, which in 27 innings isn't really a great barometer. Paddack had a higher K/9, a lower BB/9, a massively lower FIP, less H/9 and so on. If you look deeper than face value, clearly Paddack was better.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 1, 2019 6:53:44 GMT -8
Logan Allen is two years younger he pitched in double-a and Triple-A. He was the Texas league pitcher of the year and in five games in Triple-A he had a era under 2. That is a better season no matter how you calculate it. Logan Allen made his debut today in the third and fourth inning gave up no runs one hit one strikeout. Logan Allen had a better era in five starts in AAA then paddack did in 7 starts in single A. While again being 2 years younger If you're going to compare their ages, you have to throw in that Paddack missed 22 months of development time or he likely is already a big leaguer. His ERA in El Paso was technically better. He also walked 13 batters in 27.2 innings, whereas Paddack walked 8 in 90 innings. Allen was worse by almost every conceivable statistic outside of ERA, which in 27 innings isn't really a great barometer. Paddack had a higher K/9, a lower BB/9, a massively lower FIP, less H/9 and so on. If you look deeper than face value, clearly Paddack was better. I guess we can agree that they both had great years. I look at age, level and ERA - you look at those peripheral stats. I hope they both have great Padre careers. I am not dismissing those peripheral stats. I do know how they correlate to future success.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 1, 2019 20:48:31 GMT -8
FIP is a much better indicator of how well a pitcher is actually pitching because not all runs are created equally. For example, MacKenzie Gore had an inning last year with 3 straight passed balls. Balls that the catcher should have caught, but didn't. His ERA was in the mid 4's, but his FIP was a shade over 3. I tend to focus on the H/9, K/9 and swinging strike percentage. Missing bats at the minor league level tends to lead to future success. Paddack had a 41% strikeout rate in Lake Elsinore, which is borderline comical.
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 1, 2019 23:36:59 GMT -8
Now including the 2019 rankings. Luis Patino made the biggest jump from #83 to #48 Player | Pos | DOB | Age | Aquired | 2018 MLB Ranking | 2019 MLB Ranking | 2018 Padres Rank | 2019 Padres Rank | Frenando Tatis Jr | SS | 1/2/1999 | 20.16 | Trade CWS - James Shield | 2 | 2 | 1 | 1 | Mackenzie Gore | LHP | 2/24/1999 | 20.02 | 2017 Draft 1st(3) | 13 | 15 | 2 | 2 | Luis Urias | 2B/SS | 6/3/1997 | 21.74 | 2013 Foreign free Agent | 27 | 23 | 4 | 3 | Francisco Mejjia | C | 10/27/1995 | 23.35 | Trade CLE - Brad Hand | 26 | 26 | 3 | 4 | Chris Paddack | RHP | 1/8/1996 | 23.15 | Trade Mia - Fernando Rodney | 35 | 34 | 5 | 5 | Luis Patino | RHP | 10/26/1999 | 19.35 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 83 | 48 | 9 | 6 | Adrian Morejon | LHP | 2/27/1999 | 20.01 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 46 | 49 | 6 | 7 | Michel Baez | RHP | 1/21/1996 | 23.11 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | 57 | 72 | 7 | 8 | Logan Allen | LHP | 5/23/1997 | 21.77 | Trade BOS - Craig Kimbrell | 76 | 74 | 8 | 9 | Ryan Weathers | LHP | 12/17/1999 | 19.21 | 2018 Draft 1st(7) | 92 | 93 | 10 | 10 | Josh Naylor | OF/1B | 6/22/1997 | 21.69 | 2015 Draft 1st(12) | | | 15 | 11 | Cal Quantrill | RHP | 2/10/1995 | 24.05 | 2016 Draft 1st(8) | | | 11 | 12 | Anderson Espinoza | RHP | 3/9/1998 | 20.98 | Trade BOS - Drew Pomeranz | | | 12 | 13 | Xavier Edwards | SS | 8/9/1999 | 19.56 | 2018 Draft CBA(38) | | | 18 | 14 | Hudson Potts | 3B | 10/28/1998 | 20.34 | 2016 Draft 1st(24) | | | 23 | 15 | Tirso Ornelas | OF | 3/11/2000 | 18.97 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | | 16 | 16 | Buddy Reed | OF | 4/27/1995 | 23.85 | 2016 Draft 2nd(48) | | | 13 | 17 | Luis Campusano | C | 9/29/1998 | 20.42 | 2017 Draft 2nd(39) | | | 24 | 18 | Jacob Nix | RHP | 1/9/1996 | 23.14 | 2015 Draft 3rd(86) | | | 14 | 19 | Austin Allen | C/1B | 1/16/1994 | 25.12 | 2015 Draft 4th(117) | | | 25 | 20 | Tucupita Marcano | 2B | 9/16/1999 | 19.46 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | | NA | 21 | Jeisson Rosario | OF | 10/22/1999 | 19.36 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | | 19 | 22 | Edward Olivares | OF | 3/6/1996 | 22.99 | Trade TOR - Yangervis Solarte | | | 28 | 23 | Andres Munoz | RHP | 1/16/1999 | 20.12 | 2015 Foreign free Agent | | | 22 | 24 | Gabriel Arias | SS | 2/27/2000 | 19.01 | 2016 Foreign free Agent | | | 20 | 25 | Owen Miller | SS | 11/15/1996 | 22.29 | 2018 Draft 3rd(84) | | | 30 | 26 | Esteury Ruiz | 2B/3B | 2/15/1999 | 20.04 | Trade KC +2 - Cahill, Maurer, Buchter | | | 17 | 27 | Osvaldo Hernandez | 2B | 5/15/1998 | 20.80 | 2017 Foreign free Agent | | | NA | 28 | Reggie Lawson | RHP | 8/2/1997 | 21.58 | 2016 Draft CBB(71) | | | 21 | 29 | Blake Hunt | C | 11/10/1998 | 20.31 | 2017 Draft CBB(69) | | | NA | 30 | Dylan Coleman | RHP | 9/16/1996 | 22.46 | Draft 2018 4th(111) | | | 26 | NA | Grant Little | OF | 7/8/1997 | 21.65 | Draft 2018 CBB(74) | | | 27 | NA | Pedro Avila | RHP | 1/14/1997 | 22.13 | Trade Wash - Derek Norris | | | 29 | NA |
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Post by AztecBill on Mar 2, 2019 0:22:07 GMT -8
FIP is a much better indicator of how well a pitcher is actually pitching because not all runs are created equally. For example, MacKenzie Gore had an inning last year with 3 straight passed balls. Balls that the catcher should have caught, but didn't. His ERA was in the mid 4's, but his FIP was a shade over 3. I tend to focus on the H/9, K/9 and swinging strike percentage. Missing bats at the minor league level tends to lead to future success. Paddack had a 41% strikeout rate in Lake Elsinore, which is borderline comical. Maybe you can help me understand this. Logan Allen had a 1.63 ERA in AAA and a 5.16 FIP. Is that saying that the fielders were so good in El Paso that they saved him a half a run per inning pitched? In 2016 he had an ERA of 7.71 and a FIP of 1.63. Does that mean the fielders were so bad that added 6 runs a game to his ERA without any of that bad fielding resulting in an error?
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 2, 2019 8:35:10 GMT -8
FIP is a much better indicator of how well a pitcher is actually pitching because not all runs are created equally. For example, MacKenzie Gore had an inning last year with 3 straight passed balls. Balls that the catcher should have caught, but didn't. His ERA was in the mid 4's, but his FIP was a shade over 3. I tend to focus on the H/9, K/9 and swinging strike percentage. Missing bats at the minor league level tends to lead to future success. Paddack had a 41% strikeout rate in Lake Elsinore, which is borderline comical. Maybe you can help me understand this. Logan Allen had a 1.63 ERA in AAA and a 5.16 FIP. Is that saying that the fielders were so good in El Paso that they saved him a half a run per inning pitched? In 2016 he had an ERA of 7.71 and a FIP of 1.63. Does that mean the fielders were so bad that added 6 runs a game to his ERA without any of that bad fielding resulting in an error? A lot of things go into FIP calculations, but a lot of it is BABIP data, strand rate for runners and stuff like that. Check out Patino's ERA/FIP splits. Legit stuff for a kid who just turned 19.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 22, 2019 20:31:48 GMT -8
Javy Guerra optioned to minor league camp. To me, it is not a surprise. I would also think that Perdomo will join him.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 23, 2019 21:41:54 GMT -8
And...Perdomo has joined Guerra in minor league camp.
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Post by aardvark on Mar 24, 2019 11:40:57 GMT -8
Gore currently pitching against the Mexico City Red Devils live from Mexico City. Padres are sharing the feed on Facebook.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 27, 2019 9:40:56 GMT -8
Gore and Patiño have a chance to be the best lefty/righty pitching prospects in baseball at the end of this year. That doesn't come from me, but from professional scouting guys. Patiño threw yesterday against the Mariners and touched 97.
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