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Post by aardvark on Feb 20, 2019 12:15:19 GMT -8
Now that I have a little more time, here are some more factoids... Through the age 25 season, Machado ranks 26th all time in baseball history in WAR rankings. The immediate players behind him? Joe DiMaggio, Barry Bonds, Stan Musial, Willie Mays and Lou Gehrig. Machado is projected for 38.8 WAR over the life of the contract based on current ZiPS projections from FanGraphs. If you subscribe in a typical market that 1 WAR is roughly equal to 9 million dollars (before this free agency slog nightmare) that would create a surplus value of nearly 50 million dollars. MLB.com's "optimistic projection" for 2019 has Machado at 6.6 WAR, with a 2018 comparison of Alex Bregman. His defensive metrics remain very strong at 3rd base. Every projected starter by midseason (Tatis over Kinsler) is now under club control for at least 4 more seasons. Eric Hosmer is the elder statesman of the infield now at 29. Machado has already posted 3 6+ WAR seasons in his career, including last season at 6.2. The average Hall of Fame WAR is 69.0. Tony GWynn is the next player above that divider at 69.2. Machado's career projections now put him just under 73 career WAR, making him a likely Hall candidate. Some people will have reservations about his hustle and some the antics. I'm definitely one of them. But the fact is you don't get a chance like this to lock up a guy at age 26 and immediately boost your national profile. Padres odds to win the NL West went from 30-1 to 12-1 just based on this move alone. As I've said from the beginning, you're about to see a whole new level of commitment to winning. The farm is about to blossom in a major way. This team is a real threat to compete, very soon. The first sentence in your last paragraph is what concerns me. That said, I was absolutely wrong about the Padres and Machado.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 20, 2019 12:32:49 GMT -8
Listen to the whole interview where that quote came from. Context is a dangerous thing when it can be manipulated. From everything I've read, the Padres thoroughly investigated every aspect of his behavior.
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Post by survalli on Feb 20, 2019 14:47:26 GMT -8
Listen to the whole interview where that quote came from. Context is a dangerous thing when it can be manipulated. From everything I've read, the Padres thoroughly investigated every aspect of his behavior. sort of the way they investigate injuries.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 20, 2019 15:07:16 GMT -8
Listen to the whole interview where that quote came from. Context is a dangerous thing when it can be manipulated. From everything I've read, the Padres thoroughly investigated every aspect of his behavior. I have heard the entire interview, and I also know what I have seen. I still have concerns.
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Post by survalli on Feb 20, 2019 15:23:12 GMT -8
Listen to the whole interview where that quote came from. Context is a dangerous thing when it can be manipulated. From everything I've read, the Padres thoroughly investigated every aspect of his behavior. I have heard the entire interview, and I also know what I have seen. I still have concerns. this city and this organization has an extremely poor history with players that have had bad attitudes or perceived bad attitudes. He is not the enigma that Rickey Henderson was. Machado reminds of a kid that is too smart for his own good, yet he still deliberately choose to be a dick and a slacker. Maybe money can mature him.
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Post by AztecBill on Feb 20, 2019 17:11:44 GMT -8
Listen to the whole interview where that quote came from. Context is a dangerous thing when it can be manipulated. From everything I've read, the Padres thoroughly investigated every aspect of his behavior. sort of the way they investigate injuries. If that is all they got after 6 year, I'm OK with that. Those slides into second are great.
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Post by aztecmusician on Feb 20, 2019 18:37:46 GMT -8
I like the signing. Machado fills a position need and puts an elite bat in the lineup. Sign a decent starter or two and the Padres might be relevant in September.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 20, 2019 22:32:23 GMT -8
Talked to a friend of mine tonight regarding Machado, who was a bullpen catcher for the Orioles the last few years, so he knows him fairly well. He thinks he will be fine.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 21, 2019 0:15:07 GMT -8
I have heard the entire interview, and I also know what I have seen. I still have concerns. this city and this organization has an extremely poor history with players that have had bad attitudes or perceived bad attitudes. He is not the enigma that Rickey Henderson was. Machado reminds of a kid that is too smart for his own good, yet he still deliberately choose to be a dick and a slacker. Maybe money can mature him. Money like that doesn't usually mature people. I hope I'm wrong in this case.
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Feb 21, 2019 7:49:13 GMT -8
There’s no smoke about Machado being a bad teammate. Positive spin: he’s like Jamaal and everyone hates playing against him because he’s hyper-competitive, but nobody on his team has any beef with it. On the flip side, he threw a bat at the pitcher when he was 21 or whatever, then the antics on the largest stage last season. I couldn’t care less about the Johnny-Hustle comments.
Personally, I’d have preferred Harper because I’d be more excited about rooting for him. I don’t see this as a real moral compromise (like if they signed Aroldis Chapman or Addison Russel), but there are a lot of guys who don’t act like he does when they’re competing.
Either way, it’s fantastic that the Padres are ponying up the cash to back up the plan they have been touting for the last few years. Definitely looks like a bright future for a long-suffering franchise.
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Post by untitled on Feb 21, 2019 8:43:11 GMT -8
with how bad the padres have been in my life Machado could slap my sister, insult my mother, and burn my house down and I'd high five him during all of it if he plays gold glove D at 3B and hits .290 with 30 HR 95 RBI
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 21, 2019 16:00:17 GMT -8
To put a bow on it, it is now officially done and announced by the team.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 22, 2019 12:43:11 GMT -8
Courtesy of Bob Nightengale...
The Padres wouldn’t have dished out $300 million – $30 million annually through 2028 – if they didn’t believe in Machado. They did their homework. They talked to about 60 people in the Orioles and Dodgers organizations about Machado. They talked to his friends. Family. Clubhouse attendants. You name it, they talked to them.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 24, 2019 9:36:50 GMT -8
Manny won't debut until early March, but Fernando Tatis Jr. and Luis Urias make their debuts today against....the White Sox.
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