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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Mar 19, 2019 17:58:51 GMT -8
I'm not making a statement...but rather asking a question:
If you think that the Aztecs underachieved this last year...do you believe that a possible reason for the team's under-performance was the overall play of Jalen (offense / defense / leadership / etc)?
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Post by hoobs on Mar 19, 2019 18:59:53 GMT -8
No.
But Jalen was frustratingly inconsistent at times.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 19, 2019 19:05:30 GMT -8
I'm not making a statement...but rather asking a question: If you think that the Aztecs underachieved this last year...do you believe that a possible reason for the team's under-performance was the overall play of Jalen (offense / defense / leadership / etc)? Jalen had an inconsistent year. That was just one reason why we didn't do better, not the only. |
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Post by legkick on Mar 19, 2019 19:38:03 GMT -8
If you think that the Aztecs underachieved this last year...do you believe that a possible reason for the team's under-performance was the overall play of Jalen (offense / defense / leadership / etc)? Yes, assuming they did underperform, imo. His defense was usually terrible. He did not provide any leadership to the extent that could be observed. While he was able to highlight his ability to shoot midrange jumpers (excellent when not closely guarded) and 3 pointers (below average but improved from freshman year), he did not get many inside baskets or free throw opportunities. When he did get free throw opportunities in clutch time, he did not come through reliably. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 19, 2019 20:46:55 GMT -8
I think the team only underachieved versus USD, Cal, & Brown. Then I guess you can throw Boise and Air Force in there too, but they're conference opponents who can get you on the road from time to time so I am more inclined to let those slide. The primary reasons we lost USD, Cal, and Brown were personnel problems stemming from the coach... I don't put those on Jalen. He never should've been starting and playing such significant minutes at the 5 spot
Had we not lost just those 3 games (USD, Cal, & Brown) our season would be viewed a lot differently imo
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Post by aztecfan1 on Mar 19, 2019 20:47:22 GMT -8
Gotta tell you bball honks that I don't like the sport but I watched a few games and if McDaniel is really going pro he'll end up best case playing on the planet Mongol next year. I hear there's an expansion league starting there for D3 Stars and others to be named.
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Post by fisherville on Mar 19, 2019 21:41:45 GMT -8
I'm not making a statement...but rather asking a question: If you think that the Aztecs underachieved this last year...do you believe that a possible reason for the team's under-performance was the overall play of Jalen (offense / defense / leadership / etc)? It's A reason, not THE reason. Jalen definitely had a up and down year, he was good overall but some of his decision making was poor. |
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Post by fisherville on Mar 19, 2019 21:42:24 GMT -8
Gotta tell you bball honks that I don't like the sport but I watched a few games and if McDaniel is really going pro he'll end up best case playing on the planet Mongol next year. I hear there's an expansion league starting there for D3 Stars and others to be named. Troll much? |
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Post by fisherville on Mar 19, 2019 21:46:43 GMT -8
I think the team only underachieved versus USD, Cal, & Brown. Then I guess you can throw Boise and Air Force in there too, but they're conference opponents who can get you on the road from time to time so I am more inclined to let those slide. The primary reasons we lost USD, Cal, and Brown were personnel problems stemming from the coach... I don't put those on Jalen. He never should've been starting and playing such significant minutes at the 5 spot Had we not lost just those 3 games (USD, Cal, & Brown) our season would be viewed a lot differently imo It's one thing to lose in Boise and in AFA, it's another to get blown out. The team was handled easily in those 2 games, we also lost a big lead in new mexico. The team was inconsistent throughout. It wasn't just 1 or 2 games or whatever. |
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Post by oc74aztec on Mar 19, 2019 23:02:54 GMT -8
If there was any chance that his brother Jaden would come here (slim to none is what I hear), would that entice Jalen to stay for his Junior year and play with his kid brother? I sure hope so.
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Post by ignoranus on Mar 20, 2019 5:42:49 GMT -8
Also lost a big lead in Fresno.
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Post by couldashoulda on Mar 20, 2019 6:50:04 GMT -8
I watch quite a bit of college basketball, not just Aztecs. In the top 25 programs that are regularly on the tube, Jalen physically does not match up against the vast majority of the top players on those teams. He gets it done with an above average mid-range game and superior effort. But, his defense is not above average IMO. It's average. A team may be willing to take a flyer on him in the second round, but his road to actually playing in an NBA game someday is to get bigger and stronger. We've been saying that on here for 3 years, and each of the last two years I am still amazed at how slight he is. He was standing next to one of the Martin twins in the Nevada game, and those guys are no Zion Williamson, but they made Jalen look like a stick figure. But, hey, I didn't think Rashad Penny would go first round, so you never know.
Regarding Jalen staying to play with Jaden...my expectations are very low for this happening. So, if by some miracle it happens, I will be VERY pleasantly surprised. I think that next year Jalen will either be playing in the G league or in Europe/China, wherever making very good money.
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Post by bobcooper84 on Mar 20, 2019 7:21:07 GMT -8
I watch quite a bit of college basketball, not just Aztecs. In the top 25 programs that are regularly on the tube, Jalen physically does not match up against the vast majority of the top players on those teams. He gets it done with an above average mid-range game and superior effort. But, his defense is not above average IMO. It's average. A team may be willing to take a flyer on him in the second round, but his road to actually playing in an NBA game someday is to get bigger and stronger. We've been saying that on here for 3 years, and each of the last two years I am still amazed at how slight he is. He was standing next to one of the Martin twins in the Nevada game, and those guys are no Zion Williamson, but they made Jalen look like a stick figure. But, hey, I didn't think Rashad Penny would go first round, so you never know. Regarding Jalen staying to play with Jaden...my expectations are very low for this happening. So, if by some miracle it happens, I will be VERY pleasantly surprised. I think that next year Jalen will either be playing in the G league or in Europe/China, wherever making very good money. " but they made Jalen look like a stick figure" because his frame is a stick figure....no shoulders or developed lower body.... I believe your post is spot on.... |
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Post by jcljorgenson on Mar 20, 2019 8:22:20 GMT -8
If Jalen wants to stick in the NBA, he needs to stay another year and play with his brother. He is a solid player, but no respectable NBA team will use a first round pick on a 2nd team MWC player that didn't even get into the postseason. If SDSU was one of the top 2 teams in the MWC, I am sure he would have earned first team honors.
His best chance is to have next year's team win the conference (with his brother) and also get into the Top 25 and possibly an NCAA tournament run. He is guaranteed to get way more visibility playing with his brother - who is already considered one of the top recruits for next year. Honestly, if his brother doesn't want to join him at SDSU, he probably isn't that much better off playing one more year at SDSU. But it could be an amazing season if they decide to team up!
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Post by richpjr on Mar 20, 2019 8:29:31 GMT -8
So does he go if he is drafted in the second round or come back another year and try and get in the first round? If a player gets drafted he can’t return to college. Yeah, didn't phrase that real well. Meant to say if he was projected as a second round pick, does he enter the draft or come back? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2019 8:44:55 GMT -8
If a player gets drafted he can’t return to college. Yeah, didn't phrase that real well. Meant to say if he was projected as a second round pick, does he enter the draft or come back? I don’t think that a second round projection would dissuade him from going pro. Not being projected at all may give him pause but I wouldn’t be shocked to see him go anyway. |
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Post by ignoranus on Mar 20, 2019 9:24:24 GMT -8
Does Daulton Hommes appear in any of the mock drafts? A year @ SDSU might do a lot to improve his draft visibility.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 20, 2019 11:59:52 GMT -8
Does Daulton Hommes appear in any of the mock drafts? A year @ SDSU might do a lot to improve his draft visibility. I was thinking it might also hurt him, if he gets exposed by the better competition. If I were him and it looked like I might get taken in the early second I'd probably enter the draft |
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Post by aztecfan1 on Mar 20, 2019 15:06:15 GMT -8
Gotta tell you bball honks that I don't like the sport but I watched a few games and if McDaniel is really going pro he'll end up best case playing on the planet Mongol next year. I hear there's an expansion league starting there for D3 Stars and others to be named. Troll much? Come on fish face. Pointing out that he is over rated by under performing in key games like at home vs Fresno and vs usu is hardly trolling. |
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Post by fisherville on Mar 20, 2019 15:52:05 GMT -8
Come on fish face. Pointing out that he is over rated by under performing in key games like at home vs Fresno and vs usu is hardly trolling. "Gotta tell you bball honks that I don't like the sport but I watched a few games and if McDaniel is really going pro he'll end up best case playing on the planet Mongol next year. I hear there's an expansion league starting there for D3 Stars and others to be named. " That is a perfect example of trolling. Keep up the lame work |
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