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Post by cvtower on Jan 26, 2019 16:54:24 GMT -8
I know they play different positions, but if the Padres were to sign just one of them, who would you prefer?
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 26, 2019 19:05:52 GMT -8
The Pads already have good catchers and no proven 3b. I’m more confident in Mejia than I am in Ty France.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 28, 2019 8:21:19 GMT -8
Both.
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Post by ignoranus on Jan 28, 2019 8:37:52 GMT -8
Machado.
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Post by cvtower on Jan 28, 2019 18:47:54 GMT -8
Regarding Realmuto, there's this tweet from Ken Rosenthal
Quite a handful of responders on Twitter seem reluctant about letting go of Margot, and to my surprise seem more ok with replacing him in the trade with Hunter Renfroe. I'm still bullish with the idea of an outfield of Renfroe (LF), Franchy Cordero (CF), and Franmil Reyes (RF). Between Cordero and Margot, I prefer Cordero with his speed and power.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2019 8:39:02 GMT -8
Margot is s#!++y, not sure why there would be any reluctance.
Realmuto is a friggin stud, but this move seems like a luxury unless the FO and staff thinks Mejia cannot play catcher. I know the Indians front office thought a position switch was inevitable with him. So, that would be my guess.
I'm with Ryan on this, why not both?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 29, 2019 9:06:55 GMT -8
Margot is 24. Trading him now would be foolish. His last year was ruined after he got drilled in the ribs, but way too early to give up on him. Franchy is a poor defensive outfielder and struck out at a 40% clip in winter ball. Great athlete, but that's a scary proposition. Regarding Mejia, serious questions on both sides of the coin. His strike zone discipline, contact rate and overly aggressive approach on offense, the receiving element behind the plate on defense.
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Post by ignoranus on Jan 29, 2019 9:27:24 GMT -8
Mejia, Morejon and Margot for Realmuto? Just do it! A la Nike! Now.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 29, 2019 16:52:02 GMT -8
Mejia, Morejon and Margot for Realmuto? Just do it! A la Nike! Now. That's a lot to give up for only two years of control. Surplus value would not be in our favor.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 29, 2019 23:37:59 GMT -8
I guess the good news is the check book is being dusted off and trades are afoot. Starting pitching should be top priority.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 7:58:24 GMT -8
I don't think it would be wise to part with both Morejon and Mejia. It would make more sense to build it around Mejia and a couple of lesser prospects.
Realmuto is a damned good offensive player, but not an elite hitter. He isn't giving you 30 homers, 100 RBI, and he has one season of an .800 or higher OPS.
Not knocking him, he is legit. But so is Mejia's potential, though as mentioned above he may not fit as a C.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 8:15:00 GMT -8
Margot is 24. Trading him now would be foolish. His last year was ruined after he got drilled in the ribs, but way too early to give up on him. Franchy is a poor defensive outfielder and struck out at a 40% clip in winter ball. Great athlete, but that's a scary proposition. Regarding Mejia, serious questions on both sides of the coin. His strike zone discipline, contact rate and overly aggressive approach on offense, the receiving element behind the plate on defense. Ryan, You're certain it was that pitch to the ribs that impacted him that badly and for that long huh? Seems like a stretch. It's amusing to me to see you talk about Franchy's K rate, my guess is that if you were discussing a player you wanted to like, you would talk about the players youth, preach patience, and probably even tell us "strikeouts don't matter, OPS, OPS+ and oWAR does." Mejia hasn't shown that he will walk a ton, but he has hit at most every level with success, and he doesn't strike out very often. 342 K's in 2,127 minor league PA's. While getting on base at a .350 clip and posting a .799 OPS with some flashes of pop. He also just turned 23, he's quite young for a kid who is ready for his major league debut. Margot sucks. He flat out sucks. Trading him in a package for something of proven value would be the furthest thing from foolish. In 2.5 major league seasons, he's batting .254/.300 (yikes)/ .697. He strikes out 3X as often as he walks and posts a 0.6 offensive WAR. His minor league stats weren't even particularly impressive. In his last full season at El Paso he hit 6 HR in 566 PA's. His career OPS is below .800 down on the farm, and his OBP was below .350. OK, so he's an athletic outfielder who is "toolsy". Awesome. That makes him foolish to move? He's essentially what, Mike Cameron with less offensive production? Ya gotta love Ryan. He can spin it so well, both sides of the coin depending on his stance on that player. Very good!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 8:16:00 GMT -8
Margot is 24. Trading him now would be foolish. His last year was ruined after he got drilled in the ribs, but way too early to give up on him. Franchy is a poor defensive outfielder and struck out at a 40% clip in winter ball. Great athlete, but that's a scary proposition. Regarding Mejia, serious questions on both sides of the coin. His strike zone discipline, contact rate and overly aggressive approach on offense, the receiving element behind the plate on defense. AztecRyan: "You need to give a guy six full major league seasons to really judge his ability". LMFAO Ask the Astros player development about that.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 30, 2019 9:11:08 GMT -8
Whoa. Let's calm down a bit, shall we? First of all, yes, I do believe Margot was severely impacted by that pitch. He was starting to get a lot more comfortable in the box with his approach and then that happened and I don't think he mentally ever got re-engaged. Second, with regards to Franchy, read the scouting reports. All of them. They'll mention a "lack of baseball feel" or "doesn't possess great instincts for the game" universally. He has always had an extreme strikeout risk and his stats over the winter were scary bad. Great ATHLETE, but if you can't put the bat on the ball or play defense at a high level...this isn't a skills competition. What do the Astros have to do with anything? Giving up on a guy who will play the bulk of this season at 24, playing a premium defensive position, IS foolish.
With Mejia, nobody doubts his offensive profile as a whole. He CAN hit. But at the same time, he swings at almost everything. The bat speed will make up for some of that flaw, but not all of it. If you're asking me to trade Mejia for Realmuto, that's the easiest decision of all. Serious questions on Mejia sticking behind the plate. By the way, I have no bias toward anyone except TG and Hoffman.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 6:33:14 GMT -8
Fair enough, bud. You and I are probably in agreement on Franchy. I'm not sure he has the talent to stick for long. And admittedly, you know far more about him than I do, which is little. I haven't read much on him and have only seen him play a few games. I definitely trust your word on him, and I am not pounding the table for him...at all. Not a fan of Margot, personally. To me, he seems to be a guy who will be a good 4th OF and late inning defensive replacement most of his career. But then, that's why I do mortgages for a living and not professional scouting. I don't pretend to be an expert. My hope is, if he finishes 2019 with similar numbers to what he has posted thus far, you will be more in agreement with me on him. I do wish him well, I'd love him to prove me wrong.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jan 31, 2019 14:35:29 GMT -8
The Pads are now talking with Bryce Harper.
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Post by cvtower on Jan 31, 2019 14:48:07 GMT -8
The Pads are now talking with Bryce Harper.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Jan 31, 2019 17:26:05 GMT -8
Have the Pads even talked with Machado's agent yet? They are meeting with Harper tonight.
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Post by ignoranus on Feb 6, 2019 8:37:48 GMT -8
When Machado finally signs with another team the Padres will then sign Mike Moustache, whom they wanted all along. He will be "good enough" and make Hosmer a happier guy.
Harper would be a great addition, but...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ decides.
Keep trying on Realmuto, still a longshot.
Getting all three of the above would force the team to start seriously looking for good pitching this year.
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Post by ignoranus on Feb 12, 2019 8:59:15 GMT -8
Time to bring this stuff to a close: Just sign Mike Moustache and focus on the 2019 team.
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