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Post by aztech on Jan 16, 2019 12:30:14 GMT -8
Rocky has always been about the run game. His takeover following Francione at UNM was a success after a while, but ultimately resulted in his downfall because his offenses there were the same as it is here. No need for a game changing QB. That's his pattern. If we fall under .500 next season, I think he'll retire. Without changes he would be unable to right the ship anyway. JMO So, when Rocky left the UNM, how did that turn out for the Lobos? To his credit he took the 3-3-5 defense with him. The Lobos were left with nothing and still holds the same today.
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Post by sdsustoner on Jan 16, 2019 13:29:40 GMT -8
Rocky has always been about the run game. His takeover following Francione at UNM was a success after a while, but ultimately resulted in his downfall because his offenses there were the same as it is here. No need for a game changing QB. That's his pattern. If we fall under .500 next season, I think he'll retire. Without changes he would be unable to right the ship anyway. JMO Are you aware of NM's record right before and after Rocky?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jan 16, 2019 16:25:41 GMT -8
New Mexico football is one of the worst jobs in the country so Rocky did a great job for the Lobos, there's no denying that.
However, there's also no denying that he can be influenced by fan support since lack thereof was among several reasons he cited for quitting at the end of 2008. If I'm not mistaken, that year during a 4-win season attendance for the Lobos fell off by about 9,000 per game from a few years before despite the fact New Mexico won its first bowl game in decades the year before and Rocky became disgusted at the fair weather support.
Our average announced attendance for 2018 was 31,439. This year in addition to the Sky Show game we host BYU and Fresno State, both of which should also draw big crowds, and Nevada, Utah State and Wyoming. Wyoming always brings a lot of fans too so even if attendance is down for Nevada and USU, there shouldn't be any dropoff in attendance from 2018's poor home schedule. However, if we should lose to BYU (gasp!) and Weber State (even worse), there could be more Bulldogs in the stadium than Aztecs for that one and more Aztecs than Aggies and Wolf Pack only because they won't bring anybody. If that was to happen and we averaged only 22,000 per game would Rocky quit SDSU too?
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Post by sinnerboy on Jan 17, 2019 16:19:50 GMT -8
If Long can't see that he needs to make changes in his staff you have to wonder if he really cares anymore.
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jan 17, 2019 21:10:06 GMT -8
Of course he cares very much . But your premise thatbecause the season was a huge bummer and he does not react like the Queen of Hearts , that he is disinterested. Now, he may be dead wrong about retaining not only the staff but also the run first offense is still the way to go. He could have gotten rid of them all. So, now we have seven full months plus to determine what re-tooling is all about. I'll take his career body of work as evidence that there are good days ahead for this very immature 2018 team. He's the winningest coach in MWC history for a reason.
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Post by legkick on Jan 17, 2019 21:12:10 GMT -8
Rocky Long didn't stop caring. He NEVER cared what message board ignoramuses thought about his coaching staff or philosophy.
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Post by kozy on Jan 18, 2019 18:31:47 GMT -8
Rocky Long didn't stop caring. He NEVER cared what message board ignoramuses thought about his coaching staff or philosophy.Coaces are on an annual or two year contract that if memory serves me right start February 1st. Won’t know who is coming or going until them.
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Post by azman on Jan 18, 2019 20:14:47 GMT -8
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jan 19, 2019 11:51:19 GMT -8
Absorbing the article about utilizing the spread but retaining run first orientation I'm thinking this should be a big improvement. It not the coaches that needed changing. Its the scheme and kudos to Rocky realizing same.it was so obvious as the letdown second half of 2018 played out that our opponents had more than figured out how to stop us. Now, will they be able to hit running, pun intended, right away next year? I look forward to spring ball to get a look at the new formations. All the O coaches will be greatly challenged to coach their people up .
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Post by aztech on Jan 19, 2019 13:36:22 GMT -8
Absorbing the article about utilizing the spread but retaining run first orientation I'm thinking this should be a big improvement. It not the coaches that needed changing. Its the scheme and kudos to Rocky realizing same.it was so obvious as the letdown second half of 2018 played out that our opponents had more than figured out how to stop us. Now, will they be able to hit running, pun intended, right away next year? I look forward to spring ball to get a look at the new formations. All the O coaches will be greatly challenged to coach their people up . The challenge will be whether our bulky olinemen can adapt to it. They were recruited for run blocking so they didn't really need quick feet for pass blocking. For that reason the S&C coach(Adam Hall) will need to streamline their physiques to compensate for the change. I think less weight may improve their footwork.
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Post by sdsustoner on Jan 21, 2019 4:54:43 GMT -8
Absorbing the article about utilizing the spread but retaining run first orientation I'm thinking this should be a big improvement. It not the coaches that needed changing. Its the scheme and kudos to Rocky realizing same.it was so obvious as the letdown second half of 2018 played out that our opponents had more than figured out how to stop us. Now, will they be able to hit running, pun intended, right away next year? I look forward to spring ball to get a look at the new formations. All the O coaches will be greatly challenged to coach their people up . The challenge will be whether our bulky olinemen can adapt to it. They were recruited for run blocking so they didn't really need quick feet for pass blocking. For that reason the S&C coach(Adam Hall) will need to streamline their physiques to compensate for the change. I think less weight may improve their footwork. Methinks they're gonna be a run heavy spread team like WVU under Rich Rod
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Post by aztech on Jan 21, 2019 12:18:14 GMT -8
The challenge will be whether our bulky olinemen can adapt to it. They were recruited for run blocking so they didn't really need quick feet for pass blocking. For that reason the S&C coach(Adam Hall) will need to streamline their physiques to compensate for the change. I think less weight may improve their footwork. Methinks they're gonna be a run heavy spread team like WVU under Rich Rod That works if you have a good line. As far as what I've seen we don't. In the spread the RB gets the ball handed off to him about 3-4 yards behind the line. Which means the linemen will have to hold their blocks a split second longer. In the pro set, the RB gets it a step away from the line. In either case we lack an explosive/power RB like Pumphrey/Penny. So if passing from the spread doesn't work out, we're screwed.
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Post by sdsustoner on Jan 21, 2019 12:45:47 GMT -8
Methinks they're gonna be a run heavy spread team like WVU under Rich Rod That works if you have a good line. As far as what I've seen we don't. In the spread the RB gets the ball handed off to him about 3-4 yards behind the line. Which means the linemen will have to hold their blocks a split second longer. In the pro set, the RB gets it a step away from the line. In either case we lack an explosive/power RB like Pumphrey/Penny. So if passing from the spread doesn't work out, we're screwed. Our OL was recruited as road graders. Not pass blockers. That's why pass blocking has been a theory for SDSU football at best.
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Post by walkonfan on Jan 21, 2019 14:26:16 GMT -8
If you want to see how AZTECS offense may look in 2019 with a spread formation but very run heavy; see the 2018 Laney College vs. Ventura College CCCAA JC State Football Championship at: baosn.tv/ look under recent events. The game features Laney College with new recruit at QB Jordon Brookshire a dual threat QB is a run heavy offense with spread formations with multiple single RB and H-back/TE formations with 2, 3 and 4 wide receiver sets. My concern would be whether AZTECs currently have the WRs to make it work. The AZTECS were very successful in 2018 with running out of 2 WR sets, but with the spread formation it looks promising as the 3 and 4 WR sets take players out of the box...walkonfan...GO AZTECS!
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Post by walkonfan on Jan 21, 2019 14:39:59 GMT -8
After watching the 2018 CCCAA JC State Football Championship Game; I believe the difference in skills between Ryan Agnew and new QB recruit Jordan Brookshire, is that Ryan Agnew does not appear as comfortable running out of design ed run plays as he appears more adapt at improvising a run after a failed pass pass play; where at least at the JC competition level Brookshire appears more adapt at run-pass-option plays where he decides to hold the ball and go! As far a passing ability, I will hold my preference until I see Brookshire complete passes against D1 Level defenses and players. We have seen what Ryan Agnew can do in the passing game against D1 level defenses; which needs improvement. If Brookshire can prove a better passer in key passing situations and proves a better runner ing than Agnew then he could win the QB starter roll. But you will not be able to judge that In Spring Ball or Fall Camp, on ly in live action, so I think Agnew will start in at QB in 2019; and you never know if either Salazar will emerge too!..GO STATE...walkonfan..
Edited above for clarity.
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Post by tonatiuh on Jan 26, 2019 21:43:18 GMT -8
It is beginning to look like Long is not making any changes in the football program. At least not any of any significance. Spring practice usually starts in Feb and it is getting late to make coaching changes etc. So it looks as though he will do as I was afraid of, just double down and do the same thing next year as he did this year. If so, I will predict a 6-6 record at best. All the teams now know how to defend against his run run offense and we don't have a Penny or Pumphrey to counter that. Also teams have learned how to attack his defense, look at what Ohio did to it. He needs to make some changes in it. So, just like all the teams knew how to defend against Pumphrey in 2014,2015,2016, and Penny in 2017? You statement really shows a lack of knowledge. The reason those earlier teams did so well is because the players we had were very good, and they performed better than the competition. This year's team just could not perform as well due to a lot of factors. And, our players may not have been as talented as in the past. It doesn't matter if the opposition knows what you are going to do, if you execute well and strong they can't stop you no matter what. It's all in execution. The pros will tell you that!
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