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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 2, 2019 11:08:07 GMT -8
Too funny! Hardly one day on the job and he is urging us to kick the trade imbalance, NATO freeloading and immigration problems "can" down the road as he hopes to set up a Presidential run in 2024. What a clueless dupe to think he can ingratiate himself with the MSM by trashing Trump. Sure, it will work for a while as he is a useful stooge for them as they try to beat Trump in 2020 but the minute he becomes a real threat to Democrat power, they will turn and stab him in his RINO back as fast as anybody.
Using Harry Truman's words as a warning to Mitt: "If it's a choice between a genuine Republican Democrat, and a Republican Democrat in Democratic Republican clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time"
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jan 2, 2019 11:25:43 GMT -8
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Post by azteccc on Jan 2, 2019 15:41:37 GMT -8
I just want a live video feed of the Uncle/Niece family reunion injected directly into my veins.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 2, 2019 19:16:52 GMT -8
Too funny! Hardly one day on the job and he is urging us to kick the trade imbalance, NATO freeloading and immigration problems "can" down the road as he hopes to set up a Presidential run in 2024. What a clueless dupe to think he can ingratiate himself with the MSM by trashing Trump. Sure, it will work for a while as he is a useful stooge for them as they try to beat Trump in 2020 but the minute he becomes a real threat to Democrat power, they will turn and stab him in his RINO back as fast as anybody. Using Harry Truman's words as a warning to Mitt: "If it's a choice between a genuine Republican Democrat, and a Republican Democrat in Democratic Republican clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time" Trump is not making it to 2020. He will either be ousted or take a deal and run. Hopefully , the next president will not be an ideologue gesticulating at the feet of Ann Coulter, Breitbart and Limbaugh. you do know that perhaps 20 to 25% of America thinks like this. more catheter adds on FOX..haha. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 2, 2019 21:51:53 GMT -8
Too funny! Hardly one day on the job and he is urging us to kick the trade imbalance, NATO freeloading and immigration problems "can" down the road as he hopes to set up a Presidential run in 2024. What a clueless dupe to think he can ingratiate himself with the MSM by trashing Trump. Sure, it will work for a while as he is a useful stooge for them as they try to beat Trump in 2020 but the minute he becomes a real threat to Democrat power, they will turn and stab him in his RINO back as fast as anybody. Using Harry Truman's words as a warning to Mitt: "If it's a choice between a genuine Republican Democrat, and a Republican Democrat in Democratic Republican clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time" Trump is not making it to 2020. He will either be ousted or take a deal and run. Hopefully , the next president will not be an ideologue gesticulating at the feet of Ann Coulter, Breitbart and Limbaugh. you do know that perhaps 20 to 25% of America thinks like this. more catheter adds on FOX..haha. Gee, I think I heard something like that in the 2016 primary, the 2016 campaign, in 2017, yada, yada, yada. Trump will be our President until he loses in 2020 or terms out. He very may lose in 2020 but the flood of leftist lunacy about to be unleashed on the electorate is effectively going to be a two year long Trump campaign commercial. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 4, 2019 10:39:17 GMT -8
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 4, 2019 11:10:48 GMT -8
hmmm. You guys seem to be fine with "locker room" talk. I would love to see the electoral college go away.
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Post by azteccc on Jan 4, 2019 11:11:46 GMT -8
Yes Yes Yes No Yes Vote for me 2020. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 4, 2019 11:15:37 GMT -8
hmmm. You guys seem to be fine with "locker room" talk. I would love to see the electoral college go away. Eliminate the border, aid and abet voter fraud and kill the Electoral College. Seems like a good day of legislation...for someone anyhow. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 4, 2019 12:38:02 GMT -8
hmmm. You guys seem to be fine with "locker room" talk. I would love to see the electoral college go away. Eliminate the border, aid and abet voter fraud and kill the Electoral College. Seems like a good day of legislation...for someone anyhow. Where did I say eliminate the border? I agree with increased technology and fencing in strategic areas. Here is the ridiculous part. Trump keeps telling the uneducated that the "wall" will stop drugs coming from the south. Do you actually believe this? (can you please answer the question for once). Aside from the many ways drugs will still come in, do you know that you can buy a drone with a 10lb. payload on Amazon for $4,000. Do you think this is too high a budget for the cartels? I agree with doing everything we can to keep drugs out, but to sell the wall as a fix is a huge lie. What about "terrorists". Nielson just said they stopped 3,000 potential terrorists at the southern border. Do you believe that? Can you name one terrorist event in the US where the perpetrator came from crossing the southern border? |
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Post by davdesid on Jan 4, 2019 13:50:03 GMT -8
Eliminate the border, aid and abet voter fraud and kill the Electoral College. Seems like a good day of legislation...for someone anyhow. Where did I say eliminate the border? I agree with increased technology and fencing in strategic areas. Here is the ridiculous part. Trump keeps telling the uneducated that the "wall" will stop drugs coming from the south. Do you actually believe this? (can you please answer the question for once). Aside from the many ways drugs will still come in, do you know that you can buy a drone with a 10lb. payload on Amazon for $4,000. Do you think this is too high a budget for the cartels? I agree with doing everything we can to keep drugs out, but to sell the wall as a fix is a huge lie. What about "terrorists". Nielson just said they stopped 3,000 potential terrorists at the southern border. Do you believe that? Can you name one terrorist event in the US where the perpetrator came from crossing the southern border? You need to talk to this uneducated guy and straighten him out: “Anywhere that you look where we have built walls—they have worked. They have been an absolute necessity for Border Patrol agents in securing the border.” -Brandon Judd, National Border Patrol Council President |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 4, 2019 14:09:05 GMT -8
Where did I say eliminate the border? I agree with increased technology and fencing in strategic areas. Here is the ridiculous part. Trump keeps telling the uneducated that the "wall" will stop drugs coming from the south. Do you actually believe this? (can you please answer the question for once). Aside from the many ways drugs will still come in, do you know that you can buy a drone with a 10lb. payload on Amazon for $4,000. Do you think this is too high a budget for the cartels? I agree with doing everything we can to keep drugs out, but to sell the wall as a fix is a huge lie. What about "terrorists". Nielson just said they stopped 3,000 potential terrorists at the southern border. Do you believe that? Can you name one terrorist event in the US where the perpetrator came from crossing the southern border? You need to talk to this uneducated guy and straighten him out: “Anywhere that you look where we have built walls—they have worked. They have been an absolute necessity for Border Patrol agents in securing the border.” -Brandon Judd, National Border Patrol Council President Haha, I would never call you uneducated Dave. My problem is the way this has been sold / Marketed. A big, beautiful concrete wall....and it just got 10 feet higher! His core audience actually bought this, but we all knew it wasn't true. The barrier (steel slats) stops just east of Jacumba today. There is no engineering way (short of bunker busters) you could build it further, till you get to Ocotillo. This is because of topography and boulders equaling those found at Joshua Tree there. Of course there are many other sections where topography, rivers etc. do not allow construction. I just don't like Trump's huckster style when he is talking to his base. They seem to believe everything he says. As far as the drugs go, do you think a "wall" puts a big dent in that? The days of sending a couple guys with back packs through the desert are pretty much over... that's very low tech. If we wanted to stop ophiod addiction, we should have stopped American doctors from handing them out like candy for 20 years. |
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Post by davdesid on Jan 4, 2019 14:24:31 GMT -8
You need to talk to this uneducated guy and straighten him out: “Anywhere that you look where we have built walls—they have worked. They have been an absolute necessity for Border Patrol agents in securing the border.” -Brandon Judd, National Border Patrol Council President Haha, I would never call you uneducated Dave. My problem is the way this has been sold / Marketed. A big, beautiful concrete wall....and it just got 10 feet higher! His core audience actually bought this, but we all knew it wasn't true. The barrier (steel slats) stops just east of Jacumba today. There is no engineering way (short of bunker busters) you could build it further, till you get to Ocotillo. This is because of topography and boulders equaling those found at Joshua Tree there. Of course there are many other sections where topography, rivers etc. do not allow construction. I just don't like Trump's huckster style when he is talking to his base. They seem to believe everything he says. As far as the drugs go, do you think a "wall" puts a big dent in that? The days of sending a couple guys with back packs through the desert are pretty much over... that's very low tech. If we wanted to stop ophiod addiction, we should have stopped American doctors from handing them out like candy for 20 years. I was referring to Mr. Judd when I said "uneducated guy". He obviously doesn't understand the problem as well as you do. As for the "huckster"style marketing, I think you would be surprised to know that his supporters know he is a huckster and can live with it, considering the alternative choice (HRC). He's no "God" or "Emperor", and that's not what they expected to get. What he is, is a giant walking talking middle finger to the elite ruling class of both parties, who have failed the country for decades. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 4, 2019 16:37:44 GMT -8
I was referring to Mr. Judd when I said "uneducated guy". He obviously doesn't understand the problem as well as you do. As for the "huckster"style marketing, I think you would be surprised to know that his supporters know he is a huckster and can live with it, considering the alternative choice (HRC). He's no "God" or "Emperor", and that's not what they expected to get. What he is, is a giant walking talking middle finger to the elite ruling class of both parties, who have failed the country for decades. well, I'll agree he is a giant walking middle finger...to about 60% of Americans. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Jan 4, 2019 22:24:22 GMT -8
Eliminate the border, aid and abet voter fraud and kill the Electoral College. Seems like a good day of legislation...for someone anyhow. Where did I say eliminate the border? I agree with increased technology and fencing in strategic areas. Here is the ridiculous part. Trump keeps telling the uneducated that the "wall" will stop drugs coming from the south. Do you actually believe this? (can you please answer the question for once). Aside from the many ways drugs will still come in, do you know that you can buy a drone with a 10lb. payload on Amazon for $4,000. Do you think this is too high a budget for the cartels? I agree with doing everything we can to keep drugs out, but to sell the wall as a fix is a huge lie. What about "terrorists". Nielson just said they stopped 3,000 potential terrorists at the southern border. Do you believe that? Can you name one terrorist event in the US where the perpetrator came from crossing the southern border? Any time you support Lib judges and the do-nothing Dem pols that refuse to close the loopholes in border enforcement, you are for "eliminating the border". And taking arguments to extremes is a loser. If it be drugs only by drones and submarines or tunnels, they will be greatly reduced. And sex trafficking, the criminal element, the money to cartels by way of mules and coyotes also reduced. And most of all, a reduction of the over immigration of low-skilled, impoverished economic refugees. What good does technology do, like some smart sensor, when you have no fence in an area? Once inland, the illegal immigrant is well into a sanctuary state (for CA, anyhow). You need three legs in the border solution - 1. a good fence (~to stop the common horde, to slow the criminal down, to force others into less successful alternatives, etc). 2. more techology (~for detection, real-time identification, helicopters, video drones, etc) and 3. legal reform (~to discourage illegal immigration in general, to reduce political amnesty request abuses, to deal those already here, etc). And truth be told, it is that 3rd leg - legislation reform - that the libs will do the least of. The fight over the fence (or wall) is just theatrics for the leftist base as they try to stick it to Trump for their enjoyment. And any claim they want "technology" or "more Agents" is all fake concern. Dems want General Amnesty for all illegals already here and to protect chain migration, so they can double their number in short order. They are saying "look at this shiny object" called "technology" and "increased border security" (whatever that is?) as they actually want nothing done to change the laws governing immigration save for "General Amnesty" as it is the only way they can get a good number of new people to vote with clueless leftists. Because there has been no "General Amnesty", that is why we now have voter fraud endorsed at the state level with ludicrously lax moter voter laws and judges ruling against ID requiements. |
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 5, 2019 8:29:14 GMT -8
Where did I say eliminate the border? I agree with increased technology and fencing in strategic areas. Here is the ridiculous part. Trump keeps telling the uneducated that the "wall" will stop drugs coming from the south. Do you actually believe this? (can you please answer the question for once). Aside from the many ways drugs will still come in, do you know that you can buy a drone with a 10lb. payload on Amazon for $4,000. Do you think this is too high a budget for the cartels? I agree with doing everything we can to keep drugs out, but to sell the wall as a fix is a huge lie. What about "terrorists". Nielson just said they stopped 3,000 potential terrorists at the southern border. Do you believe that? Can you name one terrorist event in the US where the perpetrator came from crossing the southern border? Any time you support Lib judges and the do-nothing Dem pols that refuse to close the loopholes in border enforcement, you are for "eliminating the border". And taking arguments to extremes is a loser. If it be drugs only by drones and submarines or tunnels, they will be greatly reduced. And sex trafficking, the criminal element, the money to cartels by way of mules and coyotes also reduced. And most of all, a reduction of the over immigration of low-skilled, impoverished economic refugees. What good does technology do, like some smart sensor, when you have no fence in an area? Once inland, the illegal immigrant is well into a sanctuary state (for CA, anyhow). You need three legs in the border solution - 1. a good fence (~to stop the common horde, to slow the criminal down, to force others into less successful alternatives, etc). 2. more techology (~for detection, real-time identification, helicopters, video drones, etc) and 3. legal reform (~to discourage illegal immigration in general, to reduce political amnesty request abuses, to deal those already here, etc). And truth be told, it is that 3rd leg - legislation reform - that the libs will do the least of. The fight over the fence (or wall) is just theatrics for the leftist base as they try to stick it to Trump for their enjoyment. And any claim they want "technology" or "more Agents" is all fake concern. Dems want General Amnesty for all illegals already here and to protect chain migration, so they can double their number in short order. They are saying "look at this shiny object" called "technology" and "increased border security" (whatever that is?) as they actually want nothing done to change the laws governing immigration save for "General Amnesty" as it is the only way they can get a good number of new people to vote with clueless leftists. Because there has been no "General Amnesty", that is why we now have voter fraud endorsed at the state level with ludicrously lax moter voter laws and judges ruling against ID requiements. "taking arguments to an extreme is a loser". "they will be greatly reduced". The vast majority of drugs (meth, heroin, coke etc.) comes through the 48 existing border crossings, that's according to the DEA..... and all of those are fenced. The DEA estimates that 6 out of 7 smuggling attempts get through. How does this fact agree with your greatly reduced argument? The fact that you can get a 10 pound payload drone on Amazon for $5,000 to you is a zero. I have been around drones a lot on a professional level, so I know the capabilities very well. Oh and I have to say that your way of discussing an issue ("Libs", "stop the horde" (greatly reduced since 2000) sound just like a Breitbart / Fox sound bite. |
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