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Post by hoobs on Dec 23, 2018 7:46:17 GMT -8
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Post by longtimebooster on Dec 23, 2018 8:06:15 GMT -8
I have been saying for at least 20 years now that SDSU needs to hitch its wagon (rivalry, academics, P12 membership) to UNLV. The two regions have much in common: high growth, world-class tourism destinations, up-and-coming universities, possibilities as major bowl sites and hoops tournament sites, etc.
A UNLV/SDSU tandem could bust down the door to the P12 better than any other combination. In fact, I think it's an inevitability. Vegas and San Diego are the two largest metro areas/media markets (and still growing dramatically) west of the Mississippi not represented by P5 members.
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Post by Frantic on Dec 23, 2018 8:35:47 GMT -8
It's not only UNLV that earned the distinction. From the article:
"The Carnegie Classification now has 130 universities with that label and added 15 this year, including a second university in the Silver State — the University of Nevada, Reno."
FYI, only schools that offer doctoral degrees are eligible for the distinction.
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Post by jdaztec on Dec 23, 2018 8:36:30 GMT -8
its almost embarrassing that we aren't in that same stratosphere (not the Hotel)
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Post by brokencurse on Dec 23, 2018 8:52:02 GMT -8
It's not only UNLV that earned the distinction. From the article: "The Carnegie Classification now has 130 universities with that label and added 15 this year, including a second university in the Silver State — the University of Nevada, Reno." FYI, only schools that offer doctoral degrees are eligible for the distinction. Yes, "Cal State" rules are holding SDSU back. In fact, you could make an argument that SDSU would be in a P5 already if it weren't a Cal State school. |
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Post by SD Johnny on Dec 23, 2018 9:49:21 GMT -8
I believe I saw they only do $70 mil of research so we nearly double them.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Dec 23, 2018 13:16:37 GMT -8
It's not only UNLV that earned the distinction. From the article: "The Carnegie Classification now has 130 universities with that label and added 15 this year, including a second university in the Silver State — the University of Nevada, Reno." FYI, only schools that offer doctoral degrees are eligible for the distinction. Specifically, doctor of philosophy degrees independent of other institutions. If I'm not mistaken, the state's general plan for public school higher education expressly precludes CSU campuses from doing that. Assuming that's accurate, continuing to be a member of the CSU system will probably forever keep SDSU out of the Pac-12 conference. It's a sad state of affairs made sadder by the apparent absence of anyone in the state legislature from San Diego willing to try to effect a change. |
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Post by aztech on Dec 23, 2018 13:51:15 GMT -8
It's because they now have a medical school. |
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Post by Frantic on Dec 24, 2018 9:32:58 GMT -8
It's because they now have a medical school. The R1 rating is for "...institutions that awarded at least 20 research/scholarship doctoral degrees and had at least $5 million in total research expenditures (as reported through the National Science Foundation (NSF) Higher Education Research & Development Survey (HERD))." carnegieclassifications.iu.edu/classification_descriptions/basic.php |
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Post by Den60 on Dec 26, 2018 12:47:01 GMT -8
It's not only UNLV that earned the distinction. From the article: "The Carnegie Classification now has 130 universities with that label and added 15 this year, including a second university in the Silver State — the University of Nevada, Reno." FYI, only schools that offer doctoral degrees are eligible for the distinction. Specifically, doctor of philosophy degrees independent of other institutions. If I'm not mistaken, the state's general plan for public school higher education expressly precludes CSU campuses from doing that. Assuming that's accurate, continuing to be a member of the CSU system will probably forever keep SDSU out of the Pac-12 conference. It's a sad state of affairs made sadder by the apparent absence of anyone in the state legislature from San Diego willing to try to effect a change. Yes, until the charter is changed we cannot independently offer Phds. I believe we can offer EDds. At some point the state is going to need to change things as the population and demand on public universities are increasing to the point where the UC system cannot keep up. |
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Post by aztecvatar on Dec 26, 2018 13:50:28 GMT -8
P5? What does academics have to do with athletics?
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Post by hoobs on Dec 26, 2018 18:56:52 GMT -8
P5? What does academics have to do with athletics? Uhhhhhhh, a lot. Athletic directors don't vote on conference affiliation, university presidents do. If SDSU ever gets into the Pac1X, it will be because of academics and campus expansion, not athletics. |
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Post by aztecvatar on Dec 27, 2018 0:14:50 GMT -8
P5? What does academics have to do with athletics? Uhhhhhhh, a lot. Athletic directors don't vote on conference affiliation, university presidents do. If SDSU ever gets into the Pac1X, it will be because of academics and campus expansion, not athletics. That was sarcasm. |
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Post by hoobs on Dec 27, 2018 8:23:44 GMT -8
Uhhhhhhh, a lot. Athletic directors don't vote on conference affiliation, university presidents do. If SDSU ever gets into the Pac1X, it will be because of academics and campus expansion, not athletics. That was sarcasm. Sorry  |
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