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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2018 11:21:45 GMT -8
Does Samson have credibility? www.si.com/mlb/2018/12/05/david-samson-padres-medical-files-marlinsFormer Miami Marlins president David Samson claimed the San Diego Padres kept a real and fake copy of medical records on players, according to the Miami Herald. "The Padres lied," Samson said. "They had an entire medical file on a player and didn’t disclose it. Two sets of medical records is what they had. [Padres general manager] A.J. Preller shouldn’t be allowed in the game. It’s beyond comprehension that he’s still working. They did it to the Red Sox. There are a lot of things you mess with, but you don’t mess with that." In 2016, the Marlins and Padres agreed to a seven-player deal that sent right-handers Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea to Miami. However, Rea suffered an elbow strain in his first start with the Marlins and was sent back to San Diego. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 7, 2018 12:53:55 GMT -8
Cue angry response from Aztecryan in 3.....2.....1🌧
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Post by aardvark on Dec 7, 2018 15:49:11 GMT -8
Does Samson have credibility? www.si.com/mlb/2018/12/05/david-samson-padres-medical-files-marlinsFormer Miami Marlins president David Samson claimed the San Diego Padres kept a real and fake copy of medical records on players, according to the Miami Herald. "The Padres lied," Samson said. "They had an entire medical file on a player and didn’t disclose it. Two sets of medical records is what they had. [Padres general manager] A.J. Preller shouldn’t be allowed in the game. It’s beyond comprehension that he’s still working. They did it to the Red Sox. There are a lot of things you mess with, but you don’t mess with that." In 2016, the Marlins and Padres agreed to a seven-player deal that sent right-handers Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea to Miami. However, Rea suffered an elbow strain in his first start with the Marlins and was sent back to San Diego. MLB has already dealt with this. Preller was suspended by MLB for 30 days in 2016. While Preller may have had some dirt on his hands regarding what went on, it doesn't appear that Samson was the greatest person ever, based on some of his doings while he was with the Marlins. It almost sounds like a case of sour grapes, in that Preller is still employed as the Padres GM, and Samson is currently out of baseball. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2018 19:56:05 GMT -8
Cue angry response from Aztecryan in 3.....2.....1🌧 Cue someone with too much time on their hands. Not sure why you think I'm the ultimate defender of Preller or anyone else. I call it like I see it. As for the OP, Samson is the son in law of one of the worst owners in professional sports history. Dude is a nut. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 7, 2018 22:42:48 GMT -8
Cue angry response from Aztecryan in 3.....2.....1🌧 Cue someone with too much time on their hands. Not sure why you think I'm the ultimate defender of Preller or anyone else. I call it like I see it. As for the OP, Samson is the son in law of one of the worst owners in professional sports history. Dude is a nut. I made the same point 3 months ago and you got bent and snarky. Maybe he is right in that other GMs are reluctant to trade with Preller, if that is the case he puts the Padres at a competitive disadvantage and should probably step down. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2018 23:45:15 GMT -8
What Preller did wasn't even all that unusual, let alone illegal. Samson has no leg to stand on when Paddack blew his elbow out 3 starts in for the Padres. Preller just made 3 trades last week, I don't think it's an issue.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2018 13:15:28 GMT -8
Cue angry response from Aztecryan in 3.....2.....1🌧 Ok, this is pretty funny. Not a big Preller fan either. However, as Ryan has correctly pointed out and to answer the OP, once you are associated with Jeffery Loria credibility goes out the window. |
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Post by aardvark on Dec 8, 2018 15:53:54 GMT -8
What Preller did wasn't even all that unusual, let alone illegal. Samson has no leg to stand on when Paddack blew his elbow out 3 starts in for the Padres. Preller just made 3 trades last week, I don't think it's an issue. It may not be an issue, but Preller was suspended by MLB for 30 days 2 years ago. There must have been some illegality or there would have been no suspension. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2018 17:55:08 GMT -8
What Preller did wasn't even all that unusual, let alone illegal. Samson has no leg to stand on when Paddack blew his elbow out 3 starts in for the Padres. Preller just made 3 trades last week, I don't think it's an issue. It may not be an issue, but Preller was suspended by MLB for 30 days 2 years ago. There must have been some illegality or there would have been no suspension. If you really believe that, sure. I think the suspension was just to appease the whining ownership of the Red Sox, personally. |
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Post by aardvark on Dec 8, 2018 18:02:08 GMT -8
It may not be an issue, but Preller was suspended by MLB for 30 days 2 years ago. There must have been some illegality or there would have been no suspension. If you really believe that, sure. I think the suspension was just to appease the whining ownership of the Red Sox, personally. Perhaps it was, but he was also reprimanded by MLB for violating international signing rules while with the Rangers. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2018 18:50:04 GMT -8
I'm aware. Again, not something all that uncommon. Most of this stuff is much ado about nothing. Samson's diatribe sounds like sour grapes.
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Post by aardvark on Dec 8, 2018 20:17:50 GMT -8
I'm aware. Again, not something all that uncommon. Most of this stuff is much ado about nothing. Samson's diatribe sounds like sour grapes. How common is it for a GM to get suspended for 30 days by MLB? Agree about Samson though, as all this took place 2 seasons ago. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2018 21:10:53 GMT -8
Again, they had to suspend him to save face once the Red Sox complained. They weren't just going to ignore one of the most influential voices in baseball. It's a slap on the wrist, period.
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Post by aardvark on Dec 8, 2018 21:55:30 GMT -8
Again, they had to suspend him to save face once the Red Sox complained. They weren't just going to ignore one of the most influential voices in baseball. It's a slap on the wrist, period. And again, how many other GM's have been suspended? |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2018 22:14:47 GMT -8
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Post by aardvark on Dec 8, 2018 22:16:12 GMT -8
Yes, it is. And if Preller does anything else to run afoul of MLB guidelines, the Padres could end up in the same boat. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 7:08:20 GMT -8
Does Samson have credibility? www.si.com/mlb/2018/12/05/david-samson-padres-medical-files-marlinsFormer Miami Marlins president David Samson claimed the San Diego Padres kept a real and fake copy of medical records on players, according to the Miami Herald. "The Padres lied," Samson said. "They had an entire medical file on a player and didn’t disclose it. Two sets of medical records is what they had. [Padres general manager] A.J. Preller shouldn’t be allowed in the game. It’s beyond comprehension that he’s still working. They did it to the Red Sox. There are a lot of things you mess with, but you don’t mess with that." In 2016, the Marlins and Padres agreed to a seven-player deal that sent right-handers Andrew Cashner and Colin Rea to Miami. However, Rea suffered an elbow strain in his first start with the Marlins and was sent back to San Diego. MLB has already dealt with this. Preller was suspended by MLB for 30 days in 2016. While Preller may have had some dirt on his hands regarding what went on, it doesn't appear that Samson was the greatest person ever, based on some of his doings while he was with the Marlins. It almost sounds like a case of sour grapes, in that Preller is still employed as the Padres GM, and Samson is currently out of baseball. I thought the discipline came about from the Pomeranz - Boston situation. Either way, not a huge deal but I found the discussion interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2018 7:09:23 GMT -8
What Preller did wasn't even all that unusual, let alone illegal. Samson has no leg to stand on when Paddack blew his elbow out 3 starts in for the Padres. Preller just made 3 trades last week, I don't think it's an issue. True. And a couple of big trades last year including Brad Hand to a very respected baseball guy in CLE. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 10, 2018 11:12:38 GMT -8
Sounds like he might be doing some wheeling and dealing before the day is done.
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