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Post by aztecryan on Dec 5, 2018 14:46:35 GMT -8
To the Cardinals for prospects. As I've said for a while, the NL West is about to seriously regress. Time for the Padres to capitalize.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 6, 2018 2:04:04 GMT -8
Arguably the best hitter in the NL gets traded, this is turning into a very active winter for MLB.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 8:47:00 GMT -8
I can understand the trade, since he is hitting UFA next year at age 32 and is going to command a mammoth deal.
But even for a guy entering his walk year, the 3 prospects they got back didn't exactly blow my hair back, nor that of some informed writers I follow.
They got a defensive catcher with a limited bat (Hedges 2.0?) Weaver was the Cards's minor league pitcher of the year in 2016 but has struggled big time against big league hitters, and Young has been pretty solid in the minors but is considered more of an organizational player than a prized prospect.
I would have pushed for Dakota Hudson, or no deal.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2018 11:26:09 GMT -8
I can understand the trade, since he is hitting UFA next year at age 32 and is going to command a mammoth deal. But even for a guy entering his walk year, the 3 prospects they got back didn't exactly blow my hair back, nor that of some informed writers I follow. They got a defensive catcher with a limited bat (Hedges 2.0?) Weaver was the Cards's minor league pitcher of the year in 2016 but has struggled big time against big league hitters, and Young has been pretty solid in the minors but is considered more of an organizational player than a prized prospect. I would have pushed for Dakota Hudson, or no deal. Problem is with Goldy being in a walk year, they were never going to get anywhere near fair market value for his skillset/talent. Diamondbacks would have lost him for nothing but a comp pick. Not sure if they really settled, just a matter of how they view things internally. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 11:43:42 GMT -8
A friend of mine said it best:
These are the guys you trade as you start deciding who goes on the 40 man roster and you have a roster crunch. He’s solid minor league depth but, like you said, won’t get you excited.
The deal is essentially 1 year of Goldy for Luke Weaver which is not terrible but not great either.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2018 11:44:47 GMT -8
www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/paul-goldschmidt-trade-grades-move-is-a-winner-for-the-cardinals-diamondbacks-didnt-get-enough/Arizona Diamondbacks trade grade: D The market is the market and so on and so forth, but this package just feels too light to be enough for Goldschmidt -- even if it is just one season's worth. Kelly has the chance to be a starting backstop thanks foremost to his defensive chops. He's athletic (he converted from third base earlier in his career), he has a strong arm, and he's regarded as a field-general type who can handle a pitching staff. His offensive output is more uncertain, but an average stick would make him more than worth the lion's share of playing time. The rest of the deal is where things fall apart for us. Coming out of Florida State, Weaver was supposed to have a well-above-average changeup that paired nicely with his fastball and overshadowed his inability to spin the ball. Yet the changeup didn't fool batters last season, and he's been worse against lefties for his career. Without a high-grade cambio, it's hard to see Weaver sticking in a big-league rotation for long. Young, meanwhile, has nice numbers but is considered more of an organizational player than a prospect worth keeping an eye on. Arizona has a good front office. It's possible they see things we don't with both Weaver and Young. But, from our perspective, it would've been nice to see the Diamondbacks get one more piece that was closer to Kelly's level.
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