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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 12, 2018 15:41:50 GMT -8
Consider this - you are in a restaurant and overhear the high school coach say that they detest your child and add any number of disparaging comments about him/her. Now, how many of you would assume that that same coach would give your child a complete "professional" fair shake at a pending tryout? No one would! That is why Mueller booted Strzok off the Russia investigation.
When Strzok claims that his animus towards Trump did nothing to affect his professional actions (or the actions of other like minded people in the the top of the Admin, DoJ and FBI) and making himself out to be the victim here is laughable. "These are not the droids you are looking for" has new meaning.
Its so funny, the Democrats on the Panel say, if Strzok really wanted to hurt Trump, he would have leaked something. But nothing could be farther from the truth. The reality is that Obama and the cabal in the WH/CIA/DoJ/FBI didn't want anything to play into the Trump narrative that the election was rigged and absolutely didn't want the word to get out that they were investigating him. It looks like it was the only secret they all could actually collectively keep.
Also, they all assumed Hillary would win and didn't have to go into "Insurance Policy" mode only if and when he was President. Notice things really start percolating within the cabal until about January 2017, just before the Trump Inauguration. Obama issues EO 12333, Clapper, Comey et. al. brief the Dossier to Trump to allow for cover for CNN and Buzz Feed to run with it, leaks about the Trump Tower meeting come out, Flynn gets trapped, etc. etc.,
So Comey (who almost unilaterally put the official kibosh on the Clinton Server investigations) wanted the Special Council against Trump from the get-go and knew the $hit storm was coming (ala documenting his meetings with the Prez, etc) and used the occasion of his warranted firing to try and get the ball rolling by leaking FBI owned documents claiming obstruction of justice regarding Flynn, etc. We all know most of the rest save for the cards up Mueller's sleeve.
I gather the Mueller team is laying low to see who can investigate them after midterms. If the GOP holds, only the prosecutions of the hapless pawns that the Cabal has captured goes forward. If both Houses go Dem, anything and everything will be thrown at Trump. If the Houses are split, it may only get worse as rival camps conjure up conspiracies and investigations to play into the 2020 elections.
Russia will have spent almost nothing for a few facebook bots generating irrelevant misinformation, have received millions in money for the fake Dossier and then they sat back and let partisan rivals give them a nation divided to compete against. A very easy, effective and low cost win for them.
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Post by azteccc on Jul 12, 2018 16:49:16 GMT -8
Man it was so good watching him make a bunch of hillbilly congressmen look like complete jackasses for hours on end.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 13, 2018 7:44:42 GMT -8
Man it was so good watching him make a bunch of hillbilly congressmen look like complete jackasses for hours on end. Yep. A regular National treasure. He, Page, Ohr, McCabe, Comey, Yates, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Obama...all just civil servants, heads down, doing their jobs with no bias whatsoever
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Post by azteccc on Jul 13, 2018 10:39:23 GMT -8
Man it was so good watching him make a bunch of hillbilly congressmen look like complete jackasses for hours on end. Yep. A regular National treasure. He, Page, Ohr, McCabe, Comey, Yates, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Obama...all just civil servants, heads down, doing their jobs with no bias whatsoever Honestly deserved a Purple Heart
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 13, 2018 11:59:41 GMT -8
Yep. A regular National treasure. He, Page, Ohr, McCabe, Comey, Yates, Brennan, Clapper, Rice, Obama...all just civil servants, heads down, doing their jobs with no bias whatsoever Honestly deserved a Purple Heart Lol Exactly. Taking one for the team.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 16, 2018 15:19:34 GMT -8
orange headed traitor... sell out. cool aid drinkers should take Russian lessons... justify this one righties.
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Post by austinaztec on Jul 16, 2018 19:51:38 GMT -8
orange headed traitor... sell out. cool aid drinkers should take Russian lessons... justify this one righties. The fact that it has been 4 hours since your post and not a peep from a trump apologist tells me even they are startled by today’s events.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 16, 2018 21:04:02 GMT -8
Too funny! To the Left, rhetoric is more important than actions. Policy is irrelavent compared to emotion and political gotchas.
I'll be happy do discuss Trump's verbal gaffes amidst his increase in defense spending vs Obama's hollowing out our defenses with Sequestration.
Amidst Trump's pushing for more defense spending by the Nato alliance (with the common adversary being Russia) while Obama and HRC did nothing but the same old, same old.
Amidst Trump giving increased arms to Ukraine vs Obama and Hillary tucking tail and hiding when Putin took over the Crimea on their watch.
Amidst Obama and HRC allowing the Uranium One deal to go through without objection and letting Russia control a large fraction of our uranium reserves (while HRC is getting $2 Million plus in unreported donations to her foundation from a foundation controlled by Uranium One's owning family and while WJC gets over market rates ($500K) for speaking fees from the Russian firm financing the Uranium One deal.
Amidst Obama giving 1.7 Billion to the largest state sponsor of terrorism.
Amidst an environment where Obama knew that the Russians were meddling in our elections since 2014 and opted to do nothing and keep a lid on it for the sake of political optics.
Amidst Trump kicking out Russian diplomats for election meddling and Obama doing almost nothing to punish the Russians for the same on his watch.
Amidst the environment where HRC wanted to push the big corn-ball reset button of friendliness with Russia while getting absolutely nothing in return.
Amidst Trump's efforts in Syria where Russians were subject to coalition airstrikes vs Obama letting our allies in Syria get smoked by Russian armed Hassad loyalists.
Amidst Trump calling out Germany for agreeing to pump money into the Russian economy by agreeing to the natural gas pipeline vs the Dems crying boo hoo because he risks pissing off our ally by calling them on it.
You get me some cogent reasons why Trump's actions/policies that hurt the Russians are somehow worse than the wrong-headed and feckless actions/policies by Obama and HRC thst did nothing to the Russians, then we can talk about Trumps verbal gaffes.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 16, 2018 22:21:12 GMT -8
And speaking of the indictments of Russians, is it from the FBI that used circular reporting to give veracity to the Trump enemy funded dossier and applied for the FISA warrants to spy on his campaign with that veracity?
Is that from the FBI that presented Trump with the claims of the oppo dossier without even verifying most of the items?
Is this from the FBI that spied on the Trump campaign in order to save us from the likes of evil, master-mind and Russian spy Carter Page? Let alone that Russian mogul George Popadopolous! And Secret Agent Manafort! Rolleyes.
Is this from the FBI that seemingly purposefully cleared Hillary Clinton of any number of obvious process crimes but threw the book at Sec. to be Flynn when the interviewing agent didnt even think he was being evasive?
Is this from the FBI that has leakers, some reassigned, some fired for cause in the wake of the light of day from the IG and Congress?
Trump is in the most unique position to know how extraordinarily good or frightfully bad our FBI is. I know the lefties will never give him the benfit of the doubt but if the FBI's investigation into his campaign is actually a witch hunt, I can see where Trump might wonder aloud about what is being told us. Added to that, its in an environment where he can't have his own people that he trusts involved in the investigation in any way. If most of what he sees of this Russian collusion investigation is unjust and based on lies (the dossier), why would he take what they say as an absolute, uncontestable truth? His skepticism is, in part, a by product of bias within what should be an unbiased civil service.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 17, 2018 4:53:49 GMT -8
Too funny! To the Left, rhetoric is more important than actions. Policy is irrelavent compared to emotion and political gotchas. I'll be happy do discuss Trump's verbal gaffes amidst his increase in defense spending vs Obama's hollowing out our defenses with Sequestration. Amidst Trump's pushing for more defense spending by the Nato alliance (with the common adversary being Russia) while Obama and HRC did nothing but the same old, same old. Amidst Trump giving increased arms to Ukraine vs Obama and Hillary tucking tail and hiding when Putin took over the Crimea on their watch. Amidst Obama and HRC allowing the Uranium One deal to go through without objection and letting Russia control a large fraction of our uranium reserves (while HRC is getting $2 Million plus in unreported donations to her foundation from a foundation controlled by Uranium One's owning family and while WJC gets over market rates ($500K) for speaking fees from the Russian firm financing the Uranium One deal. Amidst Obama giving 1.7 Billion to the largest state sponsor of terrorism. Amidst an environment where Obama knew that the Russians were meddling in our elections since 2014 and opted to do nothing and keep a lid on it for the sake of political optics. Amidst Trump kicking out Russian diplomats for election meddling and Obama doing almost nothing to punish the Russians for the same on his watch. Amidst the environment where HRC wanted to push the big corn-ball reset button of friendliness with Russia while getting absolutely nothing in return. Amidst Trump's efforts in Syria where Russians were subject to coalition airstrikes vs Obama letting our allies in Syria get smoked by Russian armed Hassad loyalists. Amidst Trump calling out Germany for agreeing to pump money into the Russian economy by agreeing to the natural gas pipeline vs the Dems crying boo hoo because he risks pissing off our ally by calling them on it. You get me some cogent reasons why Trump's actions/policies that hurt the Russians are somehow worse than the wrong-headed and feckless actions/policies by Obama and HRC thst did nothing to the Russians, then we can talk about Trumps verbal gaffes. what gaffe? you mean the one where Trump took Putin's word over our own intelligence agency? why not just move to Russia... "I know more than the generals".. snake oil salesman...Jim Jones.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jul 19, 2018 10:33:22 GMT -8
Anybody who also supports the traitor in the White House should also move their treasonous asses to Russia!!!!
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 19, 2018 14:32:00 GMT -8
Is that bathwater tasty?
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Post by tuff on Jul 19, 2018 17:09:16 GMT -8
Anybody who also supports the traitor in the White House should also move their treasonous asses to Russia!!!! Geezus. Grow up.
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Post by tuff on Jul 19, 2018 17:10:07 GMT -8
Is that bathwater tasty?[/quot I learned a long time ago. You can’t talk to liberals. You just can’t talk to stupid.
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Post by tuff on Jul 19, 2018 17:11:02 GMT -8
Too funny! To the Left, rhetoric is more important than actions. Policy is irrelavent compared to emotion and political gotchas. I'll be happy do discuss Trump's verbal gaffes amidst his increase in defense spending vs Obama's hollowing out our defenses with Sequestration. Amidst Trump's pushing for more defense spending by the Nato alliance (with the common adversary being Russia) while Obama and HRC did nothing but the same old, same old. Amidst Trump giving increased arms to Ukraine vs Obama and Hillary tucking tail and hiding when Putin took over the Crimea on their watch. Amidst Obama and HRC allowing the Uranium One deal to go through without objection and letting Russia control a large fraction of our uranium reserves (while HRC is getting $2 Million plus in unreported donations to her foundation from a foundation controlled by Uranium One's owning family and while WJC gets over market rates ($500K) for speaking fees from the Russian firm financing the Uranium One deal. Amidst Obama giving 1.7 Billion to the largest state sponsor of terrorism. Amidst an environment where Obama knew that the Russians were meddling in our elections since 2014 and opted to do nothing and keep a lid on it for the sake of political optics. Amidst Trump kicking out Russian diplomats for election meddling and Obama doing almost nothing to punish the Russians for the same on his watch. Amidst the environment where HRC wanted to push the big corn-ball reset button of friendliness with Russia while getting absolutely nothing in return. Amidst Trump's efforts in Syria where Russians were subject to coalition airstrikes vs Obama letting our allies in Syria get smoked by Russian armed Hassad loyalists. Amidst Trump calling out Germany for agreeing to pump money into the Russian economy by agreeing to the natural gas pipeline vs the Dems crying boo hoo because he risks pissing off our ally by calling them on it. You get me some cogent reasons why Trump's actions/policies that hurt the Russians are somehow worse than the wrong-headed and feckless actions/policies by Obama and HRC thst did nothing to the Russians, then we can talk about Trumps verbal gaffes. This all goes right over their heads.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Jul 20, 2018 8:48:37 GMT -8
You cons who continue to support the traitor in the White House sicken me.
If Obama had done a quarter of the things that Trump has done you would be running for your guns and calling for armed rebellion.
Trump has shown that he is working against the interests of the United States and for the interests of Putin and Russia.
Luckily some Republicans in Congress are waking up.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 20, 2018 16:56:49 GMT -8
Right wingers grabbing their ankles for Putin....who woulda thunk?
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Post by tuff on Jul 20, 2018 17:04:35 GMT -8
Sorry. That was Obama. Riaght after he sucked some Saudi dick.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 20, 2018 17:08:46 GMT -8
Right wingers grabbing their ankles for Putin....who woulda thunk? who is sucking Saudi dick? 9-11 hijackers were all Saudi. not on Trump's Muslim ban?? not a good comeback...sorry.
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Post by ptsdthor on Jul 20, 2018 19:06:40 GMT -8
So, with greatly increased defense spending, arming the Ukranians, kicking out the Russian diplomats, airstrikes against Russians in Syria, wants an increase in NATO defense spending, wants Germany to buy natural gas from US and not the Russians, an America First trade negotiator, is a Capitalist extraordinaire (vs pinko SJW) and the pablum sucking lefties think that Trump is in the pocket of Putin because Madcow and Chrissy Cuomo says they must believe it? Whatever! They dont know the difference between a manufactured Russia collusion hoax (aka their A$$) and a hole in the ground. The only FACTS they do have is that Trump has the sexual appetite of their heros Bill Clinton and JFK (and yet, can you believe WJC married Hillary?...yikes). Every day without Hillary as President is a gift from providence! Please remind me to thank all those Democrats from the midwestern states that put Trump in office.
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