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Post by retiredaztec on Sept 7, 2017 16:07:26 GMT -8
As I shared on a previous post, once the current administration took power, I knew it was my queue to grab a seat and enjoy the show. I continue to be thoroughly entertained. The latest chapter involves Trump flicking his boogers at the Republican Party and working out a deal with Democrats, two in particular. Quoting Gomer?...." Sha zammmm!!!!"As I had also previously posted, the longer this guy remains in the White House, the more entertaining this show is going to get.  |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 7, 2017 17:12:53 GMT -8
Is it possible to jump the shark in season one?
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Post by uwphoto on Sept 7, 2017 17:17:35 GMT -8
A lot of us fail to see the humor. You will be crying as well after McMaster, Mattis and Kelley all bail. It's all that's holding this thing together. America's best days are way back in the rear view mirror....which was going to happen anyway...but the orange anti-christ has poured gasoline on the process.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 8, 2017 8:47:18 GMT -8
A lot of us fail to see the humor. You will be crying as well after McMaster, Mattis and Kelley all bail. It's all that's holding this thing together. America's best days are way back in the rear view mirror....which was going to happen anyway...but the orange anti-christ has poured gasoline on the process. With 8 more Trillion in debt to deal with amongst other intractable problems exacerbated by Obama, it doesn't take an Einstein to know that our best days are likely behind us. The belief that Trump pours gasoline on the fire but Hillary or Sanders, for example, was somehow going to slow down that slow demise is laughable, at best, or delusional, if serious. So Obama had us agree to pay Iran to not become a Nuclear power as fast as it could....ever heard of the Danegeld/gafol? That worked out well for the English, didn't it? Tell me again how Obama slowed North Korea from becoming a nuclear power? We payed off North Korea before and now, once the payday is over, they are threatening war...imagine? Tell me how Obama/Hillary stood up to Russia? I guess selling them our Uranium and letting them re-take the valuable portions of the Ukraine showed 'em? Importing poverty decade after decade and thinking it is all good for the economy - absolutely brilliant! Year after year after year of trade deficits and that is somehow inevitable and one is naive and unrealistic at best to try to change it? A public school system, dominated by leftists for decades, brings up the rear globally but Trump is the idiot to suggest alternatives (oh yeah, we just need to pour a lot more money at it (rolleyes)). An entire generation mired in long term debt to the University System and one wonders why the GDP didn't grow so well during the Obama recovery. Truly, you can't make this sh*t up but you sure can defend it. |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 8, 2017 11:13:12 GMT -8
Just under 26% of American adults elected a reality tv show host with no government experience and myriad bankruptcies & lawsuits to be President of the United States while we as a country deal with the ramifications of late stage capitalism. There was not a single person in this country less suited to negate the forces destroying our country economically and socially, foreign and domestic.
Hillary was pretty damn close to the worst as well. I'll still take four of Drumpf over eight of HClint.
If what you want to see as an American future involves torching it from the ground up and starting over with the fundamentals of society, namely reimagining our social contracts and economic symbiosis, then the 2016 election was the best you could hope for. Mango Mussolini has taken a fragile country battling simultaneous social upheaval and economic tightroping and left it completely devoid of leadership, cool-headedness, and pragmatism.
But if what you want is a stable American future, where the society of this generation continues on relatively peacefully with constant course correction as opposed to massive upheaval, Drumpf and those who follow him should not be your choice. Anyone capable of intellectual thought and reason knows that by now, whether consciously or subconsciously.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 8, 2017 12:20:55 GMT -8
And don't even talk to me about the Insurance industry bloating, Full-time employment killing, Employer punishing, Coverage level mandating, Premium skyrocketing, High deductible offering, middle-class crushing, "it only works if you don't" Obamacare... It's all Dumpfs fault by the way.
So we need to fix Obamacare, fix our foreign trade deals, stop appeasement of international bullies, trim the growth of our entitlements, make our immigration policy help the US, change education, but, but, but what about the statues!?
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Post by davdesid on Sept 8, 2017 13:04:56 GMT -8
And don't even talk to me about the Insurance industry bloating, Full-time employment killing, Employer punishing, Coverage level mandating, Premium skyrocketing, High deductible offering, middle-class crushing, "it only works if you don't" Obamacare... It's all Dumpfs fault by the way. So we need to fix Obamacare, fix our foreign trade deals, stop appeasement of international bullies, trim the growth of our entitlements, make our immigration policy help the US, change education, but, but, but what about the statues!? The statues??? Let's ask one...   |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 8, 2017 14:45:26 GMT -8
No one gives a f*ck about statues except the nazi idiots marching with tiki torches when they get taken down by localities.
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Post by azteccc on Sept 8, 2017 15:11:49 GMT -8
And don't even talk to me about the Insurance industry bloating, Full-time employment killing, Employer punishing, Coverage level mandating, Premium skyrocketing, High deductible offering, middle-class crushing, "it only works if you don't" Obamacare... It's all Dumpfs fault by the way. So we need to fix Obamacare, fix our foreign trade deals, stop appeasement of international bullies, trim the growth of our entitlements, make our immigration policy help the US, change education, but, but, but what about the statues!? You're right - we need to eliminate the ACA and the private health insurance market in America (you can thank Dem. Senator Lieberman for making sure the conservative, Heritage Foundation RomneyCare was the final proposal). Single-payer is the final solution, but we can compromise with a public option to begin with. Foreign trade deals? Eh. TPP is dead which is great. No real reason to get wrapped up in some crazy, economy rattling negotiations at this point. Appeasement of international bullies? Are you talking about Drumpf's NK red line he's already allowed them to cross? Hmm. No matter how much you pine for 2000's era FP, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz ain't walking back through that door. America is over pointless, no-endgoal invasions and consequence-ridden regime changes. I will give it to you though, finding a solution for NK and complete exit from the ME is what we need to be focusing on. Henry Kissinger has had some of the better ideas I've heard lately. Trim growth of entitlements? Nah. Randian b*llshit. We do need to do things like remove the cap of earnings for payroll taxes and raise the retirement age, though. Single payer would eliminate the growth of Medicare and (especially) Medicaid spending overall, too. Our immigration policy is fine. Republicans have done an excellent job convincing their voters that everything is the Mexicans' fault, though. Never mind corporations are sitting on record amounts and making record profits and offshoring and automating, they actually need a tax cut paid for by eliminating tax-free 401k contributions... /s f*cking idiots... it's a lot easier to blame the Mexicans than actually taking a look at the economic impacts of sensible immigration policy like DACA, where 100% have no criminal record and 91% have jobs and they go to help out with hurricane relief dying in the process and fight in our military for your freedoms. There will be no wall. U.S. education policy is a tricky one that I have yet to hear a good answer for. Most of our issues actually stem from lack of economic opportunity and are not a problem with out system. Yes, schools need more money at the expense of things like our bloated military, but outcomes are bad mostly because of (I think) socioeconomic conditions. Re-segregating schools by race and class isn't the answer, but neither is just throwing money at schools or creating idiotic new teaching methods. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 8, 2017 18:37:15 GMT -8
And don't even talk to me about the Insurance industry bloating, Full-time employment killing, Employer punishing, Coverage level mandating, Premium skyrocketing, High deductible offering, middle-class crushing, "it only works if you don't" Obamacare... It's all Dumpfs fault by the way. So we need to fix Obamacare, fix our foreign trade deals, stop appeasement of international bullies, trim the growth of our entitlements, make our immigration policy help the US, change education, but, but, but what about the statues!? You're right - we need to eliminate the ACA and the private health insurance market in America (you can thank Dem. Senator Lieberman for making sure the conservative, Heritage Foundation RomneyCare was the final proposal). Single-payer is the final solution, but we can compromise with a public option to begin with. Foreign trade deals? Eh. TPP is dead which is great. No real reason to get wrapped up in some crazy, economy rattling negotiations at this point. Appeasement of international bullies? Are you talking about Drumpf's NK red line he's already allowed them to cross? Hmm. No matter how much you pine for 2000's era FP, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz ain't walking back through that door. America is over pointless, no-endgoal invasions and consequence-ridden regime changes. I will give it to you though, finding a solution for NK and complete exit from the ME is what we need to be focusing on. Henry Kissinger has had some of the better ideas I've heard lately. Trim growth of entitlements? Nah. Randian b*llshit. We do need to do things like remove the cap of earnings for payroll taxes and raise the retirement age, though. Single payer would eliminate the growth of Medicare and (especially) Medicaid spending overall, too. Our immigration policy is fine. Republicans have done an excellent job convincing their voters that everything is the Mexicans' fault, though. Never mind corporations are sitting on record amounts and making record profits and offshoring and automating, they actually need a tax cut paid for by eliminating tax-free 401k contributions... /s f*cking idiots... it's a lot easier to blame the Mexicans than actually taking a look at the economic impacts of sensible immigration policy like DACA, where 100% have no criminal record and 91% have jobs and they go to help out with hurricane relief dying in the process and fight in our military for your freedoms. There will be no wall. U.S. education policy is a tricky one that I have yet to hear a good answer for. Most of our issues actually stem from lack of economic opportunity and are not a problem with out system. Yes, schools need more money at the expense of things like our bloated military, but outcomes are bad mostly because of (I think) socioeconomic conditions. Re-segregating schools by race and class isn't the answer, but neither is just throwing money at schools or creating idiotic new teaching methods. As it is said ... "lol" |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 8, 2017 18:55:24 GMT -8
You're right - we need to eliminate the ACA and the private health insurance market in America (you can thank Dem. Senator Lieberman for making sure the conservative, Heritage Foundation RomneyCare was the final proposal). Single-payer is the final solution, but we can compromise with a public option to begin with. Foreign trade deals? Eh. TPP is dead which is great. No real reason to get wrapped up in some crazy, economy rattling negotiations at this point. Appeasement of international bullies? Are you talking about Drumpf's NK red line he's already allowed them to cross? Hmm. No matter how much you pine for 2000's era FP, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Wolfowitz ain't walking back through that door. America is over pointless, no-endgoal invasions and consequence-ridden regime changes. I will give it to you though, finding a solution for NK and complete exit from the ME is what we need to be focusing on. Henry Kissinger has had some of the better ideas I've heard lately. Trim growth of entitlements? Nah. Randian b*llshit. We do need to do things like remove the cap of earnings for payroll taxes and raise the retirement age, though. Single payer would eliminate the growth of Medicare and (especially) Medicaid spending overall, too. Our immigration policy is fine. Republicans have done an excellent job convincing their voters that everything is the Mexicans' fault, though. Never mind corporations are sitting on record amounts and making record profits and offshoring and automating, they actually need a tax cut paid for by eliminating tax-free 401k contributions... /s f*cking idiots... it's a lot easier to blame the Mexicans than actually taking a look at the economic impacts of sensible immigration policy like DACA, where 100% have no criminal record and 91% have jobs and they go to help out with hurricane relief dying in the process and fight in our military for your freedoms. There will be no wall. U.S. education policy is a tricky one that I have yet to hear a good answer for. Most of our issues actually stem from lack of economic opportunity and are not a problem with out system. Yes, schools need more money at the expense of things like our bloated military, but outcomes are bad mostly because of (I think) socioeconomic conditions. Re-segregating schools by race and class isn't the answer, but neither is just throwing money at schools or creating idiotic new teaching methods. As it is said ... "lol" Lol |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 10, 2017 16:11:27 GMT -8
We kind of got of track here. We have to keep paying our bills. We are near the tipping point where we can never reduce debt. We have got to decrease spending to below income to ever have a chance. Neither Trump nor anyone else will ever get it done without cutting government.
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Post by azteccc on Sept 10, 2017 20:35:28 GMT -8
We kind of got of track here. We have to keep paying our bills. We are near the tipping point where we can never reduce debt. We have got to decrease spending to below income to ever have a chance. Neither Trump nor anyone else will ever get it done without cutting government. *off We need to both cut spending and raise revenue. Anyone who says you can just do one side of the equation and get to a surplus is an idiot. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 11, 2017 11:49:02 GMT -8
We kind of got of track here. We have to keep paying our bills. We are near the tipping point where we can never reduce debt. We have got to decrease spending to below income to ever have a chance. Neither Trump nor anyone else will ever get it done without cutting government. *off We need to both cut spending and raise revenue. Anyone who says you can just do one side of the equation and get to a surplus is an idiot. It goes without saying that cutting taxes to an optimum level will raise revenue. Only an idiot or Democrat would argue with that. You finally got something right. |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 11, 2017 12:55:58 GMT -8
*off We need to both cut spending and raise revenue. Anyone who says you can just do one side of the equation and get to a surplus is an idiot. It goes without saying that cutting taxes to an optimum level will raise revenue. Only an idiot or Democrat would argue with that. You finally got something right. That is not the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, but close. It's been proven to be wrong time and again. Cutting taxes doesn't raise tax revenue. Congrats. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 12, 2017 9:48:05 GMT -8
It goes without saying that cutting taxes to an optimum level will raise revenue. Only an idiot or Democrat would argue with that. You finally got something right. That is not the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, but close. It's been proven to be wrong time and again. Cutting taxes doesn't raise tax revenue. Congrats. I just knew you would expose yourself. |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 12, 2017 10:12:50 GMT -8
That is not the most idiotic thing I've ever heard, but close. It's been proven to be wrong time and again. Cutting taxes doesn't raise tax revenue. Congrats. I just knew you would expose yourself. You're a joke, little man. |
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Post by aztecwin on Sept 12, 2017 16:31:28 GMT -8
I just knew you would expose yourself. You're a joke, little man. Both JFK and Reagan tax cuts increased revenue. Irresponsible Democratic spending were problems. I just can not figure out why you weak minded lefties can't figure that out. You have to hold line on spending. |
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Post by azteccc on Sept 12, 2017 16:43:42 GMT -8
You're a joke, little man. Both JFK and Reagan tax cuts increased revenue. Irresponsible Democratic spending were problems. I just can not figure out why you weak minded lefties can't figure that out. You have to hold line on spending. I just told you we need spending cuts and tax increases. Anyone who thinks we can balance a budget using only one of those tools is an idiot who has no basic understanding of economics. Or math for that matter, really. Sorry, maybe ideologue is a better way to put it. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 12, 2017 21:28:12 GMT -8
Per the Laffer Curve, you will reduce tax revenues by increasing taxes rates (depending on the starting point of the tax rate at hand), ergo, one can actually increase tax revenues by reducing tax rates. The US corporate tax rate may very well be over the point of diminishing tax returns, so I'm for reducing them.
We do need to increase taxes and cut spending but we should raise the tax revenues by closing tax loop holes and special deductions. It is a much better way of raising tax revenue rather than just jacking the rates across the board. If you close those loop holes in the interest of tax policy simplification, then it is more sellable and achievable.
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