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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 26, 2016 11:28:49 GMT -8
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Post by beadle on Apr 26, 2016 12:05:19 GMT -8
So does the author of this not realize that there just so happens to be a mass transit trolley system running directly from the main campus to the proposed SDSU West? Problem solved, hop of the freaking trolley, you'll be there in 3 minutes.
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 26, 2016 12:14:07 GMT -8
It'd be great if the author was aware that the trolley connects the main campus to San Diego State West campus.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Apr 26, 2016 13:04:25 GMT -8
Is this guy serious
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 26, 2016 14:11:20 GMT -8
It'd be great if the author was aware that the trolley connects the main campus to San Diego State West campus. Maybe this will help... Go SDSU WEST! Go AZTECS!
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Post by untitled on Apr 26, 2016 14:30:38 GMT -8
Completely disregarding the trolley is an oversight but the fact is the trolley blows. It is painfully slow and full of legitimately crazy people. I can imagine people hating it for daily commute.
Two things I want to see before I die: An American on Mars and the trolley going twice as fast.
In order of travel preference I'd have to say it goes: Driving > walking > crawling > being dragged by your hair > hitchhiking > falling off a ledge > taking the trolley
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Post by missiontrails on Apr 26, 2016 14:56:39 GMT -8
Completely disregarding the trolley is an oversight but the fact is the trolley blows. It is painfully slow and full of legitimately crazy people. I can imagine people hating it for daily commute. Two things I want to see before I die: An American on Mars and the trolley going twice as fast. In order of travel preference I'd have to say it goes: Driving > walking > crawling > being dragged by your hair > hitchhiking > falling off a ledge > taking the trolley And the freeway isn't?
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Post by aardvark on Apr 26, 2016 15:04:38 GMT -8
Completely disregarding the trolley is an oversight but the fact is the trolley blows. It is painfully slow and full of legitimately crazy people. I can imagine people hating it for daily commute. Two things I want to see before I die: An American on Mars and the trolley going twice as fast. In order of travel preference I'd have to say it goes: Driving > walking > crawling > being dragged by your hair > hitchhiking > falling off a ledge > taking the trolley Full of crazy people? Between SDSU and Qualcomm Stadium? The farther you get from downtown, the fewer "crazy" people are on the trolley. Besides--suck it up. From SDSU, you only travel through 2 other stations before you arrive at the Q and the largest trolley station in the system.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Apr 26, 2016 16:09:06 GMT -8
Completely disregarding the trolley is an oversight but the fact is the trolley blows. It is painfully slow and full of legitimately crazy people. I can imagine people hating it for daily commute. Two things I want to see before I die: An American on Mars and the trolley going twice as fast. In order of travel preference I'd have to say it goes: Driving > walking > crawling > being dragged by your hair > hitchhiking > falling off a ledge > taking the trolley Full of crazy people? Between SDSU and Qualcomm Stadium? The farther you get from downtown, the fewer "crazy" people are on the trolley. Besides--suck it up. From SDSU, you only travel through 2 other stations before you arrive at the Q and the largest trolley station in the system. And it would be full of SDSU students going to and from.
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Post by junior on Apr 26, 2016 17:19:56 GMT -8
You gotta think like a student here - not like a 40-60 something. The students ARE the clientele - most of us are not anymore. I totally get that to many of us, it just seems ridiculous that one wouldn't just hop on the trolley and love it. But I bet the average 18-22 year old might just disagree.
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Post by aardvark on Apr 26, 2016 18:13:14 GMT -8
You gotta think like a student here - not like a 40-60 something. The students ARE the clientele - most of us are not anymore. I totally get that to many of us, it just seems ridiculous that one wouldn't just hop on the trolley and love it. But I bet the average 18-22 year old might just disagree. They might disagree until they use it--and realize it is damn convenient and only takes a few minutes, AND they don't have to deal with traffic.
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Post by Aztec Since 88 on Apr 26, 2016 20:35:57 GMT -8
I actually see SDSU West being used mostly more for faculty housing and graduate school and research programs first. It would free up the main campus for mostly undergraduate programs.
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 26, 2016 21:49:38 GMT -8
Please keep in mind that as part of the MV West expansion, planners are talking about running a double line between MV and SDSU, ergo, there would be express runs, on which the vast majority of riders would be students, faculty, staff, etc. This would be pretty cool.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 26, 2016 22:13:04 GMT -8
Please keep in mind that as part of the MV West expansion, planners are talking about running a double line between MV and SDSU, ergo, there would be express runs, on which the vast majority of riders would be students, faculty, staff, etc. This would be pretty cool. This. MTS already provides extra trolley service during sellout events at Qualcomm. www.sdmts.com/inside-mts/news-release/mts-trolley-planning-extra-service-chargers-vs-raiders-gameWho knows maybe MTS will introduce new engineering/technology at the "SDSU WEST" transit station; maybe something similar to what Disneyland has for disabled persons at Space Mountain just on a larger scale…
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 26, 2016 22:58:49 GMT -8
I actually see SDSU West being used mostly more for faculty housing and graduate school and research programs first. It would free up the main campus for mostly undergraduate programs. Most definitely faculty and some graduate students will reside at "SDSU WEST." Particularly with the creation of public-private research/technology transfer facilities and a hotel that would offer internship opportunities for students from the school of Hospitality and Tourism Management. However, since freshman (living outside the SDSU service area) are mandated to live their first year in on-campus housing (and are encouraged to live two years on campus) I could see ALL freshman being required to reside at SDSU WEST for their first year. SDSU currently has about 35,000 students. Approximately 5,000 (14%) are graduate students. SDSU currently has approximately 5,000 beds on main campus and 63% of first-time freshman live on campus. If SDSU expanded by 15,000 students to a total of 50,000 students that would equate to approximately 7,000 total graduate students and 10,750 total freshman students. If just 70% of freshman lived on campus that would equate to 7,525 freshman required to live on campus. According to President Hirshman SDSU wants to turn SDSU WEST into a transit-dependent/oriented campus so they can "realize a sustainable, green vision for the redeveloped site and for our entire university." He further emphasized that "this would reduce traffic in Mission Valley and in the College Area, as well as reduce our entire community’s carbon footprint and parking challenges on our campus." SDSU can mandate that first-time freshman reside @ SDSU WEST and can control the amount of vehicles permitted on the property. Thus, without question first-time freshman will be required to reside @ SDSU WEST along with some graduate students and around 400 faculty. Perhaps a mix of sophomore, junior, senior & graduate students will be reside on main campus.
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Post by northcountymike on Apr 26, 2016 23:42:48 GMT -8
Full of crazy people? Between SDSU and Qualcomm Stadium? The farther you get from downtown, the fewer "crazy" people are on the trolley. Besides--suck it up. From SDSU, you only travel through 2 other stations before you arrive at the Q and the largest trolley station in the system. And it would be full of SDSU students going to and from. Disagree; students would be driving new cars that their parents bought for 'em. Let's be real here...this is Southern California. No matter how much we try, we just can't seem to grasp public transit.
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Post by fatfreddy on Apr 27, 2016 3:26:22 GMT -8
You gotta think like a student here - not like a 40-60 something. The students ARE the clientele - most of us are not anymore. I totally get that to many of us, it just seems ridiculous that one wouldn't just hop on the trolley and love it. But I bet the average 18-22 year old might just disagree. They might disagree until they use it--and realize it is damn convenient and only takes a few minutes, AND they don't have to deal with traffic. Alcohol, football game, trolly! No dui! Sounds like a good recipe to me (except for stupid drunk people fights on the trolly).
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Post by SD Johnny on Apr 27, 2016 4:54:56 GMT -8
I actually see SDSU West being used mostly more for faculty housing and graduate school and research programs first. It would free up the main campus for mostly undergraduate programs. Most definitely faculty and some graduate students will reside at "SDSU WEST." Particularly with the creation of public-private research/technology transfer facilities and a hotel that would offer internship opportunities for students from the school of Hospitality and Tourism Management. However, since freshman (living outside the SDSU service area) are mandated to live their first year in on-campus housing (and are encouraged to live two years on campus) I could see ALL freshman being required to reside at SDSU WEST for their first year. SDSU currently has about 35,000 students. Approximately 5,000 (14%) are graduate students. SDSU currently has approximately 5,000 beds on main campus and 63% of first-time freshman live on campus. If SDSU expanded by 15,000 students to a total of 50,000 students that would equate to approximately 7,000 total graduate students and 10,750 total freshman students. If just 70% of freshman lived on campus that would equate to 7,525 freshman required to live on campus. According to President Hirshman SDSU wants to turn SDSU WEST into a transit-dependent/oriented campus so they can "realize a sustainable, green vision for the redeveloped site and for our entire university." He further emphasized that "this would reduce traffic in Mission Valley and in the College Area, as well as reduce our entire community’s carbon footprint and parking challenges on our campus." SDSU can mandate that first-time freshman reside @ SDSU WEST and can control the amount of vehicles permitted on the property. Thus, without question first-time freshman will be required to reside @ SDSU WEST along with some graduate students and around 400 faculty. Perhaps a mix of sophomore, junior, senior & graduate students will be reside on main campus. Having all freshman live off of the main campus where their classes will be would be foolish IMO.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Apr 27, 2016 5:49:47 GMT -8
Most definitely faculty and some graduate students will reside at "SDSU WEST." Particularly with the creation of public-private research/technology transfer facilities and a hotel that would offer internship opportunities for students from the school of Hospitality and Tourism Management. However, since freshman (living outside the SDSU service area) are mandated to live their first year in on-campus housing (and are encouraged to live two years on campus) I could see ALL freshman being required to reside at SDSU WEST for their first year. SDSU currently has about 35,000 students. Approximately 5,000 (14%) are graduate students. SDSU currently has approximately 5,000 beds on main campus and 63% of first-time freshman live on campus. If SDSU expanded by 15,000 students to a total of 50,000 students that would equate to approximately 7,000 total graduate students and 10,750 total freshman students. If just 70% of freshman lived on campus that would equate to 7,525 freshman required to live on campus. According to President Hirshman SDSU wants to turn SDSU WEST into a transit-dependent/oriented campus so they can "realize a sustainable, green vision for the redeveloped site and for our entire university." He further emphasized that "this would reduce traffic in Mission Valley and in the College Area, as well as reduce our entire community’s carbon footprint and parking challenges on our campus." SDSU can mandate that first-time freshman reside @ SDSU WEST and can control the amount of vehicles permitted on the property. Thus, without question first-time freshman will be required to reside @ SDSU WEST along with some graduate students and around 400 faculty. Perhaps a mix of sophomore, junior, senior & graduate students will be reside on main campus. Having all freshman live off of the main campus where their classes will be would be foolish IMO. It's a pretty good bet that is exactly what will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 6:45:13 GMT -8
And it would be full of SDSU students going to and from. Disagree; students would be driving new cars that their parents bought for 'em. Let's be real here...this is Southern California. No matter how much we try, we just can't seem to grasp public transit. I am sure you have done your research and all but I'd be willing to bet that a majority of first year students who live on campus do not have cars. I'd guess if the trolley is convenient the students will take it for many reasons (ever heard of Uber? why do you suppose most folks use that service?)
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