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Post by Gundo on Apr 25, 2016 21:24:24 GMT -8
The Rams have 5 scholarship players returning and lost 2 to transfer with 0 2016 recruits coming in. Grad Transfer John Gillon averaged 12 PPG last year is leaving. Little scoring left on the floor this year. Good player looking to upgrade in 2016.
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Post by northcountymike on Apr 25, 2016 22:45:15 GMT -8
Well, this should make a lot of our fans happy; we should continue to run the table in the MWC for years to come (depending on what Nevada does, anyway).
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Post by Xolotl on Apr 25, 2016 22:51:20 GMT -8
We are becoming like the WCC but with fewer good teams if this exodus keeps up
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Post by fisherville on Apr 25, 2016 22:54:56 GMT -8
Eustachy won't be there for long
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Post by goaztecs on Apr 26, 2016 5:06:54 GMT -8
Eustachy won't be there for long I'm assuming he's the reason for this. Probably no one likes playing for him. |
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Post by moctezumaii on Apr 26, 2016 5:26:53 GMT -8
That gurgling sound you hear is the MWC sinking beneath the waves. We shoulda stayed with the Big West/AAC combo.
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 26, 2016 5:35:29 GMT -8
Well, this should make a lot of our fans happy; we should continue to run the table in the MWC for years to come (depending on what Nevada does, anyway). Fans aren't happy about the MGC's continued demise. Just the LBSU trolls. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 6:02:48 GMT -8
Wow. This conference is years away from being strong again. Next season will be worse than this year was (in conference). Just complete trash.
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Post by RB Aztec on Apr 26, 2016 6:54:38 GMT -8
Eustachy won't be there for long I'm assuming he's the reason for this. Probably no one likes playing for him. But I hear he's fun to party with. |
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Post by standiego on Apr 26, 2016 7:47:44 GMT -8
Better not knock the MW or Coug will call you out . Or highlight AAC .The strength(-what is left of it that is ) of the MW is definitely moving toward the teams in the West . Mountain teams have a very difficult time getting quality teams to come play OOC games on their home court - recruits also notice . Definite edge for Mountain teams is that they play their home games in altitude and they are miserable places to travel to . They also do not have many home state recruits so must get them from Texas , CA or anywhere or get transfers or JC players as their nucleus .
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 26, 2016 8:59:36 GMT -8
Better not knock the MW or Coug will call you out . Or highlight AAC .The strength(-what is left of it that is ) of the MW is definitely moving toward the teams in the West . Mountain teams have a very difficult time getting quality teams to come play OOC games on their home court - recruits also notice . Definite edge for Mountain teams is that they play their home games in altitude and they are miserable places to travel to . They also do not have many home state recruits so must get them from Texas , CA or anywhere or get transfers or JC players as their nucleus . I dunno. I think it has much more to do with P5 football $$$. Schools like UCLA and Oklahoma have gutted the MGC coaching ranks, which causes a train wreck in recruiting, followed by weaker, more disorganized teams, followed by lowered rankings, etc. It's a downward spiral that we've been on since guys like Alford and Kruger were poached (as well as a few others), not to mention all the top assistants who've followed the $$$ to the Pac 12 and Big 12. |
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Post by goaztecs on Apr 26, 2016 9:08:08 GMT -8
It can't be a rebuild as the title asks since they don't have any one coming in. Seems like a collapse
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 26, 2016 10:09:02 GMT -8
CSU definitely is unconventional, and not a good loss for them in Gillen IMO. I personally think Prentiss Nixon is a better PG, but Gillon would have been looked to as a key scorer. Ry never would have seen the floor, so no loss there. Eustachy's unconventional - a love him or hate him type, but I know Fish is a big fan. Hard to game plan against him and, per Fish, a great guy to be around.
They're not going the HS route, but their situation isn't as dire as the OP mentions. They actually have 6 scholarship players returning, including 2 promising redshirts, and add 2 JUCO players in the 2016 class, including a SG (Che Bob) who could turn out to be a good player.
Nixon & Omogbo are their cornerstones. Nixon will be the point (he dropped 15 on us), with Paige, Bob & a 3-star promising kid who redshirted in Bonner & another JUCO kid (Butler) fighting for the 2 & 3 spots in the starting line-up. Omogbo & Jackson, along with another RS - a kid they were really high on last year in Cavachio - battling for the 2 inside spots.
They're finalists for a couple other JUCO kids, as well as 4-star HS recruit Diallo. I would think they'll add at least 1 from that group, possibly 2, as well as another JUCO, and then 2 HS "projects" who could potentially RS next year (like Bonner & Cavachio). Could add a transfer to RS as well (or 2) if the HS projects don't pan out.
They could take a step backwards next year, but I thought they over achieved last year so who knows how they'll do? Omogbo impressed me, both on & off the floor, and Nixon should be a stud. Whether the new guys step up will be their key, and whether they can land 1-2 more rotation guys (e.g. Diallo, etc.)?
Wouldn't surprise me to see them go anywhere from 6-12 to 10-8 in conference, depending on a few breaks here & there. But they'll be well prepared & I'm sure they'll give us fits, as usual.
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Post by ignoranus on Apr 26, 2016 10:44:57 GMT -8
MWC now becomes a stepping stone for guys like Rodney Terry and a home for blighted retreads with some warts and baggage like some of the other coaches (no names provided).
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Post by survalli on Apr 26, 2016 10:50:45 GMT -8
MWC now becomes a stepping stone for guys like Rodney Terry and a home for blighted retreads with some warts and baggage like some of the other coaches (no names provided). not quite a stepping stone till they leave. last i check Musselman, Rice, and Terry are all still MWC coaches. |
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Post by northcountymike on Apr 26, 2016 11:00:31 GMT -8
Well, this should make a lot of our fans happy; we should continue to run the table in the MWC for years to come (depending on what Nevada does, anyway). Fans aren't happy about the MGC's continued demise. Just the LBSU trolls. Nope, just the "booster" trolls who refuse to believe anything negative about the school they spend so much money on. Yeah, I must be the only guy here who thinks the MWC is a sinking ship, but hey, as long as we're winning on that sinking ship, "the conference isn't as bad as we thought." There are at least 2 or 3 other posters in this very thread with similar opinions; why don't you single them out as well? I know it hurts to hear it when someone doesn't agree that the program is in great shape regarding conference affiliation or on the national scene. |
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Post by northcountymike on Apr 26, 2016 11:00:53 GMT -8
MWC now becomes a stepping stone for guys like Rodney Terry and a home for blighted retreads with some warts and baggage like some of the other coaches (no names provided). not quite a stepping stone till they leave. last i check Musselman, Rice, and Terry are all still MWC coaches. ...for the next 3 years, anyway. |
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Post by sdcoug on Apr 26, 2016 11:16:07 GMT -8
MWC now becomes a stepping stone for guys like Rodney Terry and a home for blighted retreads with some warts and baggage like some of the other coaches (no names provided). not quite a stepping stone till they leave. last i check Musselman, Rice, and Terry are all still MWC coaches. Yep, and better to be a mid-major conference where P5's actually WANT your coaches than one where they don't, and they just go by the wayside. When the financial gap is as it is, EVERY mid-major conference is a stepping stone to the P5 for most coaches. So what? Just go out & hire the same types next time.
The Fisher's & the Few's are extremely rare at extremely rare programs.
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Post by pbnative on Apr 26, 2016 11:22:07 GMT -8
Better not knock the MW or Coug will call you out . Or highlight AAC .The strength(-what is left of it that is ) of the MW is definitely moving toward the teams in the West . Mountain teams have a very difficult time getting quality teams to come play OOC games on their home court - recruits also notice . Definite edge for Mountain teams is that they play their home games in altitude and they are miserable places to travel to . They also do not have many home state recruits so must get them from Texas , CA or anywhere or get transfers or JC players as their nucleus . I dunno. I think it has much more to do with P5 football $$$. Schools like UCLA and Oklahoma have gutted the MGC coaching ranks, which causes a train wreck in recruiting, followed by weaker, more disorganized teams, followed by lowered rankings, etc. It's a downward spiral that we've been on since guys like Alford and Kruger were poached (as well as a few others), not to mention all the top assistants who've followed the $$$ to the Pac 12 and Big 12. Gotta agree with this. The massive amounts of money the P5 have raked in has trickled into basketball. Even the schools that traditionally are at the low end of the basketball spectrum have spent hundreds of millions of excess funds on facilities and coaches an now rival some NBA teams. Conferences like the MW just can't compete or keep up no matter how high of a priority basketball is. SDSU fans should be grateful we have humble guys like Fisher and Rocky or we would probably be in as bad of shape as the rest of the conference. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Apr 26, 2016 17:58:53 GMT -8
Fans aren't happy about the MGC's continued demise. Just the LBSU trolls. Nope, just the "booster" trolls who refuse to believe anything negative about the school they spend so much money on. Yeah, I must be the only guy here who thinks the MWC is a sinking ship, but hey, as long as we're winning on that sinking ship, "the conference isn't as bad as we thought." There are at least 2 or 3 other posters in this very thread with similar opinions; why don't you single them out as well? I know it hurts to hear it when someone doesn't agree that the program is in great shape regarding conference affiliation or on the national scene. The Aztecs suck. They're much worse than anyone can imagine. In both basketball and football. I wish everyone would just agree with me all the time. Because I'm right. Even though I never went to State and have an LBSU inferiority complex (rightly so, I might add.) Fisher's overrated. I wish the Aztec football team could be more like Boise St. And, oh, yeah, I hate, hate, hate Winston Shepard. He stole my puppy. |
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