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Post by douchey1 on Feb 14, 2016 14:13:46 GMT -8
Let's try anyone in the top 100. In this past season's rankings on CBS, Northern Illinois was ranked 59th and South Alabama was ranked 98th. Mission accomplished... anything else I can help you with? ETA: And if you're bitching about our "weak conference", we also have: Boise State (#41) Air Force (#61) Utah State (#73) Nevada (#74) Colorado State (#76) San Jose State (#78) New Mexico (#79) Not stellar, but 8 out of 12 teams top 100 (including us at #32) ain't bad... Some "name" schools from "name" conferences that didn't crack the top 100... Kansas (#124) Oregon State (#108) Purdue (#105) Well done sir. You realize there's only 132 division one football teams? So 8 out of 12 in top 100 means 1/3 of the teams we play are ranked between 100 and 132. Spectacular Sterk.
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Feb 14, 2016 14:34:40 GMT -8
In this past season's rankings on CBS, Northern Illinois was ranked 59th and South Alabama was ranked 98th. Mission accomplished... anything else I can help you with? ETA: And if you're bitching about our "weak conference", we also have: Boise State (#41) Air Force (#61) Utah State (#73) Nevada (#74) Colorado State (#76) San Jose State (#78) New Mexico (#79) Not stellar, but 8 out of 12 teams top 100 (including us at #32) ain't bad... Some "name" schools from "name" conferences that didn't crack the top 100... Kansas (#124) Oregon State (#108) Purdue (#105) Well done sir. You realize there's only 132 division one football teams? So 8 out of 12 in top 100 means 1/3 of the teams we play are ranked between 100 and 132. Spectacular Sterk. So what? You snarkily asked for "anyone in the top 100"... I listed 'em. Asked and answered. Now you're trying to change the argument. Nice try, troll... GFY
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Post by aztecfan1 on Feb 14, 2016 15:46:32 GMT -8
He doesn't get it that most all p5 schools have no interest in playing SDSU. So he blames Sterk for working up the best schedule for the next five years in Aztec history. We truly have some here who still think you just dial up Alabama and tell them to come on over.. What a hoot!
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Post by douchey1 on Feb 14, 2016 17:55:28 GMT -8
Well done sir. You realize there's only 132 division one football teams? So 8 out of 12 in top 100 means 1/3 of the teams we play are ranked between 100 and 132. Spectacular Sterk. So what? You snarkily asked for "anyone in the top 100"... I listed 'em. Asked and answered. Now you're trying to change the argument. Nice try, troll... GFY Wow you got me. When you're sitting with your mom next season watching the Aztecs play and you look around and notice the 30,000 empty seats just think of what a great job Sterk did with the schedule. Then you might come to the realization that maybe just maybe better teams brings out more fans and elevates the program. You ever seen our record against ranked teams in football? It's comical. Tell mom she can sit anywhere
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Post by K2Aztec73 on Feb 14, 2016 18:05:30 GMT -8
My mother died 16 years ago you f****** prick! I'm probably twice your age (64+), so don't pull out that f****** canard on me. I've probably forgotten more about football, the Aztecs, and life in general than chickenshit young trolls like you have known in your entire empty lives.
The "block" button is a nice tool. I think I'll make use of it so I never have to read your worthless crap again.
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Post by fisherville on Feb 14, 2016 18:15:09 GMT -8
Even if we run the table I very much doubt we play in the g-5 bowl.
yes I realize odds of us running table are low.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 15, 2016 0:09:14 GMT -8
Even if we run the table I very much doubt we play in the g-5 bowl. yes I realize odds of us running table are low. Disagree with that statement big time. BSU right now is getting the most love among G5s, with USF further down below them. We go 13-0 that means we are better than a highly regarded BSU, and we will probably start the season in the brink of the top 25-30. We go 4-0 and we are receiving votes. I don't see either USF or Houston going undefeated. Coming off a 11 win season, running the table definitely has us at the top of the G5 chain IMO. This is a very good NC schedule for us, especially playing a highly regarded NIU on the road, and a good schedule overall. Last I checked we are not in the B12 or P12. We are playing a great mix of P5s over the next 5 years.
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Post by fisherville on Feb 15, 2016 0:10:19 GMT -8
Even if we run the table I very much doubt we play in the g-5 bowl. yes I realize odds of us running table are low. Disagree with that statement big time. BSU right now is getting the most love among G5s, with USF further down below them. We go 13-0 that means we are better than a highly regarded BSU, and we will probably start the season in the brink of the top 25-30. We go 4-0 and we are receiving votes. I don't see either USF or Houston going undefeated. Coming off a 11 win season, running the table definitely has us at the top of the G5 chain IMO. This is a very good NC schedule for us, especially playing a highly regarded NIU on the road, and a good schedule overall. Last I checked we are not in the B12 or P12. We are playing a great mix of P5s over the next 5 years. Houston was number 10 on espn's way too early top 25 poll.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 15, 2016 0:21:28 GMT -8
Disagree with that statement big time. BSU right now is getting the most love among G5s, with USF further down below them. We go 13-0 that means we are better than a highly regarded BSU, and we will probably start the season in the brink of the top 25-30. We go 4-0 and we are receiving votes. I don't see either USF or Houston going undefeated. Coming off a 11 win season, running the table definitely has us at the top of the G5 chain IMO. This is a very good NC schedule for us, especially playing a highly regarded NIU on the road, and a good schedule overall. Last I checked we are not in the B12 or P12. We are playing a great mix of P5s over the next 5 years. Houston was number 10 on espn's way too early top 25 poll. And ESPN also ranks BSU 35, BYU 43, USF 44, Houston 48, W Michigan 58 and SDSU 60 in their preseason FPI, and a few others also have USF favored over Houston. It's wide open. If we go 13-0 we have a great shot at it unless one of those teams does the same, which is also a longshot.
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Post by fisherville on Feb 15, 2016 1:31:38 GMT -8
Houston was number 10 on espn's way too early top 25 poll. And ESPN also ranks BSU 35, BYU 43, USF 44, Houston 48, W Michigan 58 and SDSU 60 in their preseason FPI, and a few others also have USF favored over Houston. It's wide open. If we go 13-0 we have a great shot at it unless one of those teams does the same, which is also a longshot. Preseason FPI puts heavy weight into 4 year recruiting rankings I believe, at this point that means little to me. Houston will start up high in the polls, Boise will get votes but probably start unranked. Houston would probably get in with 1 loss over us, they will start way higher in the polls and a loss to OU wouldn't knock them down much, plus they play Louisville who is expected to improve quite a bit this year, AAC will again be considerably better.
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Post by gocoaztec on Feb 15, 2016 7:37:23 GMT -8
IF we went undefeated and didn't get into the access bowl it would be discussed on a lot of the national sports shows, which would still increase our awareness on a national level. If we then go on to beat a good PAC team in Vegas and the G5 team in the access bowl loses, we could easily end up the top ranked G5. Program building will continue, recruiting will get better, we'll be more desirable for national TV, etc.
So, although the access bowl would be the best outcome, this scenario would still be good for SDSU, and would have to be viewed as a step towards "paying our dues" for years of poor football.
It's awesome that, even though unlikely, an undefeated season has moved into the realm of possibility.
Go Aztecs!
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Post by fowl on Feb 15, 2016 7:45:20 GMT -8
IF, a big if, we start 4-0 then we would have won 14 in a row and the only other school in the country who might have won more consecutive games at that point would be the reigning national champs. I'd think we would be ranked at that point.
IF we go 13-0, which I highly doubt will happen, we would have won 23 in a row. No way a one loss Houston would jump us.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 15, 2016 9:43:22 GMT -8
And ESPN also ranks BSU 35, BYU 43, USF 44, Houston 48, W Michigan 58 and SDSU 60 in their preseason FPI, and a few others also have USF favored over Houston. It's wide open. If we go 13-0 we have a great shot at it unless one of those teams does the same, which is also a longshot. Preseason FPI puts heavy weight into 4 year recruiting rankings I believe, at this point that means little to me. Houston will start up high in the polls, Boise will get votes but probably start unranked. Houston would probably get in with 1 loss over us, they will start way higher in the polls and a loss to OU wouldn't knock them down much, plus they play Louisville who is expected to improve quite a bit this year, AAC will again be considerably better. And a pre-preseason poll is a better measure of the talent on a team? Really? The FPI is primarily based on prior year's efficiencies (primarily O & D), with added weight to the most previous year, along with returning starters. 5-year recruiting is significantly less important. If you return a lot of starters from an O/D which was good the prior year, that'll carry weight. Not where they finished in the poll the year prior.
If Houston only loses to Okie that's one thing, but they'll lose more than that. Last year their toughest games were at home; this year their toughest games are on the road. At Cincy will be very tough for them, as well as @ Navy, @ Memphis & Louisville. Cincy almost beat them in Houston last year. If they run that gamut they'll very possibly face USF.
Houston will be lucky to go 9-3.
BTW, if you're actually going to give credence to Schlabach's way to early top 25, then you have to give credit to Boise, who is ranked. Plus, let's not pretend the AAC is light years ahead of the MWC. 2 years ago the MW was the better conference. For 2016, the preseason avg. FPI ranking of the top 2 teams are nearly equal (46 vs. 47.5); top 4 is 56 vs. 60; top 6 is 64 vs. 69; and all 12 is 79 vs. 86. It's not like one conference is all lousy teams & the other all good. Both have their mix of good, mediocre & bad.
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Post by ab on Feb 15, 2016 9:46:30 GMT -8
With road trips to Fresno, Logan and Laramie it's time to see how many Aztec fans are true road warriors. Go Aztecs! I'm planning my roadie to South Alabama in Mobile along with a week to investigate, fish, eat and ? along the Gulf Coast from New Orleans to Pensacola.
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Post by tonatiuh on Feb 15, 2016 12:38:26 GMT -8
Aztec fans who decide whether to attend games based on who the opponents are aren't really Aztec fans. You got it!! Tell them to ask Tom Ables if he will go to any of the games? If, Mr.Aztec is going then doesn't that say something to you?
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Post by fisherville on Feb 15, 2016 15:43:42 GMT -8
IF, a big if, we start 4-0 then we would have won 14 in a row and the only other school in the country who might have won more consecutive games at that point would be the reigning national champs. I'd think we would be ranked at that point. IF we go 13-0, which I highly doubt will happen, we would have won 23 in a row. No way a one loss Houston would jump us. You do realize that Houston had only 1 loss last year right? And capped off there season with a bowl win over a very good florida state team? They were a lot better than us last year, the arbitrary consecutive win thing means little.
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Post by fisherville on Feb 15, 2016 15:48:32 GMT -8
Preseason FPI puts heavy weight into 4 year recruiting rankings I believe, at this point that means little to me. Houston will start up high in the polls, Boise will get votes but probably start unranked. Houston would probably get in with 1 loss over us, they will start way higher in the polls and a loss to OU wouldn't knock them down much, plus they play Louisville who is expected to improve quite a bit this year, AAC will again be considerably better. And a pre-preseason poll is a better measure of the talent on a team? Really? The FPI is primarily based on prior year's efficiencies (primarily O & D), with added weight to the most previous year, along with returning starters. 5-year recruiting is significantly less important. If you return a lot of starters from an O/D which was good the prior year, that'll carry weight. Not where they finished in the poll the year prior.
If Houston only loses to Okie that's one thing, but they'll lose more than that. Last year their toughest games were at home; this year their toughest games are on the road. At Cincy will be very tough for them, as well as @ Navy, @ Memphis & Louisville. Cincy almost beat them in Houston last year. If they run that gamut they'll very possibly face USF.
Houston will be lucky to go 9-3.
BTW, if you're actually going to give credence to Schlabach's way to early top 25, then you have to give credit to Boise, who is ranked. Plus, let's not pretend the AAC is light years ahead of the MWC. 2 years ago the MW was the better conference. For 2016, the preseason avg. FPI ranking of the top 2 teams are nearly equal (46 vs. 47.5); top 4 is 56 vs. 60; top 6 is 64 vs. 69; and all 12 is 79 vs. 86. It's not like one conference is all lousy teams & the other all good. Both have their mix of good, mediocre & bad.
Again I do not care for FPI because of the emphasis on 4 year recruiting rankings, it is obvious which way both conferences are going. I do think Boise and SDSU will be good teams next year but that is the extent of it in the MWC, UNM to me had the fluke Bobby Hauck like mediocre year I expect them to go back down to earth this year. The rest of the MWC for most part is garbage, Polian is an awful coach and Nevada is trending the wrong way, Fresno will be awful thanks to Deruyter, UNLV will still suck, SJSU is probably going to see a step back this year, maybe Hawaii improves. But overall the difference in conferences going forward is obvious.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 15, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -8
And a pre-preseason poll is a better measure of the talent on a team? Really? The FPI is primarily based on prior year's efficiencies (primarily O & D), with added weight to the most previous year, along with returning starters. 5-year recruiting is significantly less important. If you return a lot of starters from an O/D which was good the prior year, that'll carry weight. Not where they finished in the poll the year prior.
If Houston only loses to Okie that's one thing, but they'll lose more than that. Last year their toughest games were at home; this year their toughest games are on the road. At Cincy will be very tough for them, as well as @ Navy, @ Memphis & Louisville. Cincy almost beat them in Houston last year. If they run that gamut they'll very possibly face USF.
Houston will be lucky to go 9-3.
BTW, if you're actually going to give credence to Schlabach's way to early top 25, then you have to give credit to Boise, who is ranked. Plus, let's not pretend the AAC is light years ahead of the MWC. 2 years ago the MW was the better conference. For 2016, the preseason avg. FPI ranking of the top 2 teams are nearly equal (46 vs. 47.5); top 4 is 56 vs. 60; top 6 is 64 vs. 69; and all 12 is 79 vs. 86. It's not like one conference is all lousy teams & the other all good. Both have their mix of good, mediocre & bad.
Again I do not care for FPI because of the emphasis on 4 year recruiting rankings, it is obvious which way both conferences are going. I do think Boise and SDSU will be good teams next year but that is the extent of it in the MWC, UNM to me had the fluke Bobby Hauck like mediocre year I expect them to go back down to earth this year. The rest of the MWC for most part is garbage, Polian is an awful coach and Nevada is trending the wrong way, Fresno will be awful thanks to Deruyter, UNLV will still suck, SJSU is probably going to see a step back this year, maybe Hawaii improves. But overall the difference in conferences going forward is obvious. So the "I know more than any of them" defense. Got it.
Again, FPI puts very little weight on recruiting rankings; there's NO EMPHASIS. It's barely included in the calculations. That's not what's really benefiting BSU or USF or hurting Houston.
We'll see how the season's unfold, but to think "you know more than them" is a pretty silly assumption.
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Post by gocoaztec on Feb 15, 2016 16:42:05 GMT -8
And a pre-preseason poll is a better measure of the talent on a team? Really? The FPI is primarily based on prior year's efficiencies (primarily O & D), with added weight to the most previous year, along with returning starters. 5-year recruiting is significantly less important. If you return a lot of starters from an O/D which was good the prior year, that'll carry weight. Not where they finished in the poll the year prior.
If Houston only loses to Okie that's one thing, but they'll lose more than that. Last year their toughest games were at home; this year their toughest games are on the road. At Cincy will be very tough for them, as well as @ Navy, @ Memphis & Louisville. Cincy almost beat them in Houston last year. If they run that gamut they'll very possibly face USF.
Houston will be lucky to go 9-3.
BTW, if you're actually going to give credence to Schlabach's way to early top 25, then you have to give credit to Boise, who is ranked. Plus, let's not pretend the AAC is light years ahead of the MWC. 2 years ago the MW was the better conference. For 2016, the preseason avg. FPI ranking of the top 2 teams are nearly equal (46 vs. 47.5); top 4 is 56 vs. 60; top 6 is 64 vs. 69; and all 12 is 79 vs. 86. It's not like one conference is all lousy teams & the other all good. Both have their mix of good, mediocre & bad.
Again I do not care for FPI because of the emphasis on 4 year recruiting rankings, it is obvious which way both conferences are going. I do think Boise and SDSU will be good teams next year but that is the extent of it in the MWC, UNM to me had the fluke Bobby Hauck like mediocre year I expect them to go back down to earth this year. The rest of the MWC for most part is garbage, Polian is an awful coach and Nevada is trending the wrong way, Fresno will be awful thanks to Deruyter, UNLV will still suck, SJSU is probably going to see a step back this year, maybe Hawaii improves. But overall the difference in conferences going forward is obvious.
I'm not as bearish on the MWC. SDSU, BSU and AFA will all be strong next year. We just need one more team to emerge from the CSU/UNM/Nevada group to have a strong year for a G5 conference. Based on last year's finish, UNM seems like the most likely candidate, which is unfortunate from a conference balance point of view.
The simultaneous drop off by the Fresno and Nevada football programs has been good for the Aztecs but bad for the MWC. Both DeRuyter and Polian have proven, so far, to be poor hires. Nevada hasn't fallen as far, so there is hope for the Wolfpack. Fresno, as I remember, went heavy on JC recruits, a risky tactic that may give them a short term boost. Time will tell.
Glass half full - Hawaii, Wyoming, and UNLV all should be improved next year as well. Out on a limb -- I think that both Bohl and Davie are building winning programs that will eventually compete for championships -- they just need more time, especially Bohl at Wyo.
Go Aztecs!
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