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Post by aztecbully on Feb 10, 2016 22:14:10 GMT -8
Just played AWFUL ! Pathetic !!
Horrible IQ on the floor all night....bumbling....spaztic....out of control....just PATHETIC !
I still cannot believe this team has won so many games in a row....almost every game, just horrible turnovers and continued missed free throws !
Once and for all, coaches - - - - TEACH THESE KIDS HOW TO SHOOT FREE THROWS !! Kell can look brilliant and then turn around and look AWFUL !
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Post by onions on Feb 10, 2016 22:23:41 GMT -8
They played like they knew they would win ... Just like earlier in the year against inferior teams. Horrible shot selection, horrible turnovers, basically didn't give a $#!+. Too bad to see them go back to being this team again.
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Post by azteclou on Feb 10, 2016 22:26:57 GMT -8
No answer to zone. Forced poor shots. Did you see Skylar? He threw a few at basket. When he's the offensive answer good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 23:32:26 GMT -8
They played like they knew they would win ... Just like earlier in the year against inferior teams. Horrible shot selection, horrible turnovers, basically didn't give a $#!+. Too bad to see them go back to being this team again. No. I saw a team that didn't care. That's what is so disappointing. Fresno State was within a couple buckets of losing to San Jose state TWICE!!! No Kawhi in this team. No heart.
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Post by legkick on Feb 11, 2016 8:18:41 GMT -8
No. I saw a team that didn't care. That's what is so disappointing. Fresno State was within a couple buckets of losing to San Jose state TWICE!!! No Kawhi in this team. No heart. Terrible post. This team has tremendous heart, like every Fisher-coached Aztec team. Their heart is one of the reasons why they win these types of games at a higher percentage than other teams. |
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Post by aztecanthony on Feb 11, 2016 9:35:28 GMT -8
No. I saw a team that didn't care. That's what is so disappointing. Fresno State was within a couple buckets of losing to San Jose state TWICE!!! No Kawhi in this team. No heart. Terrible post. This team has tremendous heart, like every Fisher-coached Aztec team. Their heart is one of the reasons why they win these types of games at a higher percentage than other teams. I agree, they have heart. What they lack is a center who likes contact, who will jump towards the basket on a 3 foot shot. Also a starting wing with a high basketball IQ, one who would shoot a million shots in the summer, one who would look at a video of his lame 6-8 stroke and make adjustments. Perhaps a coach that would instill the need to do this? I feel sorry for JH, TK, and ZC. They played hard, we're just limited due to our bigs SS and WS who aren't good enough, the young guys can only carry us so far. The future does appear bright. |
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Post by dupree on Feb 11, 2016 9:46:32 GMT -8
We lost because the team was mentally and physically tired. We played an emotional game on Saturday that went into over time and the game before that against CSU it was emotional game where we had to come back in too. Trey and Germ played 36 and 32 minutes last night, they were both drained. They both had 16 points with 10 minutes left and Germ only scored 2 more points the rest of the game. Coach has started to shorten the rotation to his 8 that he loves and it bit us in the butt last night. He demands that we play stellar defense and the guys just got tired last night, we did not play great defense that last 8 minutes of the game.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 11, 2016 13:03:56 GMT -8
No. I saw a team that didn't care. That's what is so disappointing. Fresno State was within a couple buckets of losing to San Jose state TWICE!!! No Kawhi in this team. No heart. Terrible post. This team has tremendous heart, like every Fisher-coached Aztec team. Their heart is one of the reasons why they win these types of games at a higher percentage than other teams. They have heart, but they didn't play with energy last night. They were very lazy. You're splitting hairs in the description. Last night they simply didn't not play with the fire & passion needed to win in situations like that. They panicked often. They rushed shots.
You can play "with heart" but it doesn't mean you do all the time. Last night was not a good effort. We were not the team that typically doesn't make mistakes over the final 5 minutes. We made a ton.
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Post by legkick on Feb 11, 2016 13:16:45 GMT -8
They have heart, but they didn't play with energy last night. They were very lazy. You're splitting hairs in the description. Last night they simply didn't not play with the fire & passion needed to win in situations like that. They panicked often. They rushed shots. You can play "with heart" but it doesn't mean you do all the time. Last night was not a good effort. We were not the team that typically doesn't make mistakes over the final 5 minutes. We made a ton. They played with energy, but not the right kind. Outside of some really bad dribbling by Kell (which easily could have involved fouling by Fresno), they did not play lazy. Now, some passes looked lazy, but those were mostly mental errors, and almost any pass by Shrigley is a result of game rust. Overall, they played with heart, but not with brains. That was some of the dumbest basketball they have played all season. Most times, they overcome what they lack in offensive skill and fundamentals with heart and athleticism. Not last night. Agree to disagree. |
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Post by ignoranus on Feb 11, 2016 13:28:59 GMT -8
Still too much standing around on offense. At one point JH stopped his dribble and was immediately surrounded by three dogs. Not one Aztec made any attempt to get in a position to receive a pass from JH---just stood and watched as the dogs stripped the ball from his hands. Happens way too often that no team mate makes any effort to help the guy with the ball.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 11, 2016 13:33:29 GMT -8
They have heart, but they didn't play with energy last night. They were very lazy. You're splitting hairs in the description. Last night they simply didn't not play with the fire & passion needed to win in situations like that. They panicked often. They rushed shots. You can play "with heart" but it doesn't mean you do all the time. Last night was not a good effort. We were not the team that typically doesn't make mistakes over the final 5 minutes. We made a ton. They played with energy, but not the right kind. Outside of some really bad dribbling by Kell (which easily could have involved fouling by Fresno), they did not play lazy. Now, some passes looked lazy, but those were mostly mental errors, and almost any pass by Shrigley is a result of game rust. Overall, they played with heart, but not with brains. That was some of the dumbest basketball they have played all season. Most times, they overcome what they lack in offensive skill and fundamentals with heart and athleticism. Not last night. Agree to disagree.Yep, agree to disagree. IMO when a team makes a LOT of lazy plays they are playing lazy, and playing lazy isn't playing with a lot of heart. Whether that's 'brains' or 'heart', its splitting hairs in our definitions. In the end its focus - we lost it often. Against WVU we had a ton of TO's against a great D, but those were mostly forced & based off poor decisions. Last night was more being lazy. Many were just poor efforts. I don't see a team playing like we did last night as playing with a lot of heart.
It's rare though. Usually this team does.
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Post by dupree on Feb 11, 2016 14:00:37 GMT -8
I was sitting right behind the bench and they were tired, both mentally and physically. I think the lost was probably good thing because now they don't have the pressure of going undefeated in league
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Post by legkick on Feb 11, 2016 14:25:41 GMT -8
I was sitting right behind the bench and they were tired, both mentally and physically. I think the lost was probably good thing because now they don't have the pressure of going undefeated in league "Tired" is a much more charitable explanation than "lazy" or "dumb/idiotic". I can get behind it. |
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Post by bluemeanie on Feb 11, 2016 14:56:28 GMT -8
I was sitting right behind the bench and they were tired, both mentally and physically. I think the lost was probably good thing because now they don't have the pressure of going undefeated in league If you are right, then we really have to worry about the Wyoming game and the Boise State game. After playing at SJS, the Aztecs will fly home and then a day later fly to Wyoming. Then fly back a day later from Wyoming and have 1 day to prepare for Boise State. After that it is on to New Mexico. Yikes! The MWC is the toughest conference in the nation in regards to travel. The Aztecs lost last night not only because of turnovers, but bad shot selection. I cringe every time Shepard takes a 3. He took 4 last night. I don't care if 1 happened to go in, that is not his shot. Shepard and Pope combined on 3 for 14 shooting. That is unacceptable. The Aztecs are also becoming too predictable. It seems like every time Fisher calls time out before the half or final possession, the final shot is designed to be taken by Kell. It was obvious that Fresno was aware of that. BTW, he seems to always miss. Even Pope's shot vs. New Mexico was supposed to be taken by Kell. Spencer also bailed him out with a buzzer beater tip-in. Hemsley should be considered on occasion. |
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Post by legkick on Feb 11, 2016 15:09:51 GMT -8
BTW, he seems to always miss. Even Pope's shot vs. New Mexico was supposed to be taken by Kell. Spencer also bailed him out with a buzzer beater tip-in. Hemsley should be considered on occasion. Um, no. Kell has saved the team's bacon more than once with shot-clock-beating threes. Both he and Hemsley are good choices to take the last shot. |
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Post by bluemeanie on Feb 11, 2016 15:16:13 GMT -8
BTW, he seems to always miss. Even Pope's shot vs. New Mexico was supposed to be taken by Kell. Spencer also bailed him out with a buzzer beater tip-in. Hemsley should be considered on occasion. Um, no. Kell has saved the team's bacon more than once with shot-clock-beating threes. Both he and Hemsley are good choices to take the last shot. Yes, Kell has had a few 3's at the end of the shot clock. My point was end of half and end of game situations. |
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Post by legkick on Feb 11, 2016 16:03:00 GMT -8
Yes, Kell has had a few 3's at the end of the shot clock. My point was end of half and end of game situations. The end of the half isn't a good simulation for the end of the game, in terms of pressure play. It means no more and no less than a regular shot clock. This year there have been only two end of game situations where the Aztecs needed a shot in a last possession situation. Pope made his. Kell missed his. Way too small of a sample size. I agree that Hemsley is also a good choice; other teams know that as well. They would much prefer that someone else shoot the last shot. That's not because Hemsley is clutch or not; he's simply the best shooter on the team. |
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Post by junior on Feb 13, 2016 11:01:06 GMT -8
Still too much standing around on offense. At one point JH stopped his dribble and was immediately surrounded by three dogs. Not one Aztec made any attempt to get in a position to receive a pass from JH---just stood and watched as the dogs stripped the ball from his hands. Happens way too often that no team mate makes any effort to help the guy with the ball. Absolutely. From game one this season, this group has never really figured out that they need to "Help the helper" on offense as well as they do it on defense. |
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Post by smoothcat on Feb 13, 2016 11:41:37 GMT -8
Fresh to Death!
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Post by OldSlowWhiteBaller on Feb 13, 2016 17:13:38 GMT -8
Maybe the 11 in a row got to them? There is a lot of pressure to win games you are favored in......maybe it got to them in the head. We have known for quite a while about our offense issues and it finally came back to bite us in the AZZ! Let's start a new streak! We will need to win the MWC Tourney to get in MM. In between now and the Tourney.....we need to work on our offense to hopefully be playing better and win the MWC Tourney. If we do not.....maybe NIT Bound.
EDIT: We NEVER QUIT!.......EVER! to whomever implied or said that.
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