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Post by aztecfan1 on Dec 21, 2015 15:00:33 GMT -8
If Rocky bailed tomorrow I'd expect Jeff Horton to be a strong candidate.
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Post by udiscowithme on Dec 21, 2015 15:23:04 GMT -8
Shows what happens when a team loses its HC (ISU), recruits worry about who the new coach is ? Believe Achayo was going to enroll in Jan ,not sure ? Could he then do Spring drills Also when a team sits when another is heading to a Bowl Game in Hawaii . Practices , no matter what Bowl, sure help when recruiting . Was he also at one time considering BSU ? Like the additions on OL and DL . Good point. That's why it's so important that we handle the transition from the Rocky Long regime to what comes next very carefully. I've been thinking for a long time that naming a "head coach in waiting" would be a good idea. Such a coach would, or course, have to be free to join the staff the year before he took over. That would make it impossible to hire someone currently a head coach. (Example: Bronco Mendenhall, who just left BYU and headed east to take over at Virginia.) If one of the assistants is to be named HC, the transition might be relatively smooth. That certainly happened when Claude Gilbert was chosen to replace Don Coryell.
However, I am strongly in favor of hiring a successful coach who has at the very least been head coach at an FCS school. How about Jeff Tedford? After all, we did try to hire him after Tollner was fired following the 2001 season. Tedford had a winning record at Cal. According to Wikipedia, after overcoming a health problem, he is eager to get back to college coaching. I would think he'd take the job even if it were a "coach-in-waiting" deal. Also, Tedford is only 54 years old, young enough to give us a decade or more is he succeeds.
If not Tedford, perhaps another proven candidate seeking to be a DI head coach.
Anything we can do to smooth the transition to a new HC when Rocky decides to retire can only help the program.
AzWm
I understand that point of view; continuity helps smooth over the process of changing HCs. The thing I'm concerned about is if we do go the Head Coach in Waiting route, it could create undue pressure of both Long and the person named. One bad season (which is more likely than not to occur) creates exactly what we see with Fisher and Dutcher. Say Fisher actually does retire (praying to God he doesn't, but bear with me) now Dutcher has Fish's legacy and the expectation that he's been preparing for a decade to take over a team that might not be as talented as once thought. Same thing could happen if/when Long is gone. When a FB HC retires or is fired, sometimes a completely fresh face is needed to take over and revitalize the entire program. I mean look at David Shaw at Stanford: yeah he's continued Stanford's smashmouth type of play Harbaugh instituted but it's been stagnant at Stanford since he was made HC. When Long retires, I think we need a guy to put the energy back into the program, not just a slightly rehashed version of Long that keeps the program where it is.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Dec 21, 2015 17:49:12 GMT -8
Good point. That's why it's so important that we handle the transition from the Rocky Long regime to what comes next very carefully. I've been thinking for a long time that naming a "head coach in waiting" would be a good idea. Such a coach would, or course, have to be free to join the staff the year before he took over. That would make it impossible to hire someone currently a head coach. (Example: Bronco Mendenhall, who just left BYU and headed east to take over at Virginia.) If one of the assistants is to be named HC, the transition might be relatively smooth. That certainly happened when Claude Gilbert was chosen to replace Don Coryell.
However, I am strongly in favor of hiring a successful coach who has at the very least been head coach at an FCS school. How about Jeff Tedford? After all, we did try to hire him after Tollner was fired following the 2001 season. Tedford had a winning record at Cal. According to Wikipedia, after overcoming a health problem, he is eager to get back to college coaching. I would think he'd take the job even if it were a "coach-in-waiting" deal. Also, Tedford is only 54 years old, young enough to give us a decade or more is he succeeds.
If not Tedford, perhaps another proven candidate seeking to be a DI head coach.
Anything we can do to smooth the transition to a new HC when Rocky decides to retire can only help the program.
AzWm
I understand that point of view; continuity helps smooth over the process of changing HCs. The thing I'm concerned about is if we do go the Head Coach in Waiting route, it could create undue pressure of both Long and the person named. One bad season (which is more likely than not to occur) creates exactly what we see with Fisher and Dutcher. Say Fisher actually does retire (praying to God he doesn't, but bear with me) now Dutcher has Fish's legacy and the expectation that he's been preparing for a decade to take over a team that might not be as talented as once thought. Same thing could happen if/when Long is gone. When a FB HC retires or is fired, sometimes a completely fresh face is needed to take over and revitalize the entire program. I mean look at David Shaw at Stanford: yeah he's continued Stanford's smashmouth type of play Harbaugh instituted but it's been stagnant at Stanford since he was made HC. When Long retires, I think we need a guy to put the energy back into the program, not just a slightly rehashed version of Long that keeps the program where it is. Your points are well-taken. the "coach-in-waiting" scenario is unlikely for football here, I suppose. If it were tried, I think it would be for one year only. That would give the new guy time to orient himself in the new program but it would not be too long. AzWm
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Post by standiego on Dec 21, 2015 19:01:11 GMT -8
Is Rocky's contract for 2016 and 2017 ? He is both HC and DC . So if there was a fantastic candidate as DC , that could slide into HC ,if Rocky decides to leave or if he would want to remain as DC ?
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Post by texasaztec on Dec 25, 2015 20:56:43 GMT -8
I could see the "coach in waiting" scenario definitely play out here. Sterk is the decision maker and his style sure seems to be to keep things internal if possible. He hired Long after Hoke and he is good with Dutcher after Fisher. Plus, he is a very frugal AD and the idea of getting a coach already on staff and raising his pay slightly from a position/Offensive Coordinator to Head Coach would seem to be financially viable for SDSU. I just don't see SDSU being a program that would go from paying Rocky Long type pay ($800k) to paying a new/outside coach the kind of pay name coaches are demanding at D-1 schools. We could hire an unknown for the kind of money we are paying, but if we are going to do that why not hire from inside SDSU? This is ESPECIALLY true if we Rocky bows out while on top and we are a winning program. If the program tanks and fans sour on Rocky, then they sour on the staff Rocky has in place as well. At that point then going outside becomes much more of a possibility.
My predication is that Rocky stays through 2018, when his contract expires and then we hire the new coach internally from the current staff at the time.
Go Aztecs!
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Post by Old School on Dec 25, 2015 22:57:51 GMT -8
We started with 3 new guys on the line to start the year and played 2 who'd never played a college game in their position. Including center. Everyone knew they were going to struggle. Next year, assuming all holds true, we lose 2, and everyone returning will have some level of experience. If a JC guy is good enough to step in that's an added bonus. We lose Greene, our best, but believe we are in better shape overall. Back to OP, good get with this kid. We are getting deeper at OL and WR, which should set us up nicely in the long run. When we get to spring ball we'll be impressed by the almost first ever true depth we have on the OL. Add the competition coming from RsF Pesi Savea and Daishawn Dixon who appear to be future Guards according to Coach Schmidt and it will fun to watch. At tackle we get to see Ryan Pope and Slater's backup Joe Salcedo go at it for the RT spot. From all this and the hoped for (no more suspensions please) return of Flores, Siragusa and Miller and we should be just fine by Sept. When has that happened? If I recall, Pesi Savea was injured walking on crutches recently and Dixon (big dude at 340) are waiting their turns. After watching their video highlights, these two have the skillsets to fill in Darrell Greene's spot at guard, nicely. Joe Salcedo did a good job when Slater stepped out during game action. Big, strong guys with good athleticism and quick feet. Oldie Out
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Post by Old School on Dec 25, 2015 23:03:41 GMT -8
I could see the "coach in waiting" scenario definitely play out here. Sterk is the decision maker and his style sure seems to be to keep things internal if possible. He hired Long after Hoke and he is good with Dutcher after Fisher. Plus, he is a very frugal AD and the idea of getting a coach already on staff and raising his pay slightly from a position/Offensive Coordinator to Head Coach would seem to be financially viable for SDSU. I just don't see SDSU being a program that would go from paying Rocky Long type pay ($800k) to paying a new/outside coach the kind of pay name coaches are demanding at D-1 schools. We could hire an unknown for the kind of money we are paying, but if we are going to do that why not hire from inside SDSU? This is ESPECIALLY true if we Rocky bows out while on top and we are a winning program. If the program tanks and fans sour on Rocky, then they sour on the staff Rocky has in place as well. At that point then going outside becomes much more of a possibility. My predication is that Rocky stays through 2018, when his contract expires and then we hire the new coach internally from the current staff at the time. Go Aztecs! Interesting you bring this up as we already have two ex-head coaches on staff already (Horton and Hauck). My bet would be Horton to step up as Rocky's successor. DL coach Osia Lewis could step in as DC, he held the DC job at New Mexico under Long. Like with OL Coach Schmidt, we continue to promote from within. If any graduate assistants are worthy, hand them the keys. Oldie Out
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Post by sportnlyf on Dec 26, 2015 12:39:42 GMT -8
Given the Aztecs dominance over the last ten games, the way the team has developed in that time and how thoroughly Rocky outcoached Tommy Tuberville, I'm stunned that AzWm has found his drum and the steady beat of preparing for Rocky's departure. I thought there would be enough crow left to eat that it would be a while before we had to hear this stuff again. We should be working on ways to ensure that Rocky's contract is extended as he continues to build the program rather than raising the question of his departure and naming of a coach in waiting. Get back to your plate of crow and quit driving Aztec fans from your board.
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Post by standiego on Jan 16, 2016 9:08:46 GMT -8
Believe UT reported he is in school at SDSU now and will be tried at C this spring .
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Post by Old School on Jan 19, 2016 13:44:07 GMT -8
Believe UT reported he is in school at SDSU now and will be tried at C this spring . Considering his "lack of size" compared to the other giants we have at OL, I'm not surprised. Oldie Out
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Post by standiego on Jan 19, 2016 13:57:43 GMT -8
That was the same comment the coaches said . Not the "biggest guy " but he has experience playing against other JC players . Will also have the opportunity to participate in Spring practice and go over conditioning with Coach Hall , to be ready for Fall practice .
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jan 23, 2016 22:00:14 GMT -8
Believe UT reported he is in school at SDSU now and will be tried at C this spring . Considering his "lack of size" compared to the other giants we have at OL, I'm not surprised. Oldie Out Having a huge guy at center is far less important than at G or T. Need athleticism with good feet primary
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Post by standiego on Jan 24, 2016 8:48:35 GMT -8
Does the Center at SDSU make the blocking calls for the OL on the field ?
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