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Post by myownwords on Sept 27, 2015 18:03:15 GMT -8
It's been known around campus for some time that there's "a plan" for an on-campus stadium. They have plans for lots of new buildings around campus. A new College of Education where the Aztec Football trailer is parked, a new set of classrooms and offices and a big parking structure on the Alvarado Medical Center site, more classrooms, offices and a parking structure in the "X" lot. They all have plans drawn up and if you dig around, you can find them. When or whether they actually ever get built is open for discussion. That what academicians do, write stuff and have people draw things. That's why they tap our wallets even when the economy sucks.
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Post by SD Johnny on Sept 27, 2015 18:15:15 GMT -8
30k, 40k, 50k? IDGAF so long as it gets done soon. Open up your wallet. Done and done.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Sept 27, 2015 18:56:26 GMT -8
The bargaining chip could have to do with a new Chargers stadium. In the CSAG report, SDSU was being asked to contribute a significant chunk of change. The location could be Mission Valley, or just right on campus.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on Sept 27, 2015 19:18:23 GMT -8
Oh Lord. We built Cox Arena before we had a staff that won. If the alums decided to put money into this, a quality staff would be expected as quid pro quo. Completely different animal. No comparison in my opinion. Oh Lord, really?
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Post by FAULK U on Sept 27, 2015 19:29:22 GMT -8
The AD here for Utah recently said that they were going to hold off on expanding their stadium. They've been completely sold out for multiple seasons. In the press conference he said that the trend is going away from the giant stadiums for the most part and used the new ASU stadium as an example of a school that he really respects (try not to scoff at their 85% acceptance rate? ) and their new stadium has smaller capacity than the old Sun Devil stadium. I'll look for the article and link it. The Utah stadium hold about 45,000. That's what we need. There's not a bad seat, the site lines are great, the crowd is on top of the field, it's very loud, and uses a small footprint on their campus. They have about 1/3 seats and the remainder are benches. Tod Leonard mentioned on the radio last year how actually our stadium currently is more comfortable than the other MWC stadiums its just old and situated poorly and too big. Many college stadiums are full of bench seats. That's one small advantage Qualcomm has. A stadium doesn't need a huge footprint, but parking, etc is a different story. Also, tailgating at the Q is a huge non-issue because it's off campus. On campus stadiums can have funky rules.... Using my phone, please excuse typos?
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Post by Den60 on Sept 27, 2015 19:34:10 GMT -8
Great news... Now all we need is a coach And, more importantly, paying fans.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 27, 2015 19:36:51 GMT -8
Completely different animal. No comparison in my opinion. Oh Lord, really? Really. Unless you feel that our old high facility called Peterson Gym is an equivalent starting point as Qualcomm. We did not have a facility fit for real college basketball. One cannot say that about Qualcomm.
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Post by sdsuballer on Sept 27, 2015 19:38:16 GMT -8
The bargaining chip could have to do with a new Chargers stadium. In the CSAG report, SDSU was being asked to contribute a significant chunk of change. The location could be Mission Valley, or just right on campus. Im a charger fan but im done with their stadium situation. Chargers have no interest in sharing a stadium with stinking San Diego State... They will do what Southwestern College does to Bonita High school which is lock most of the stadium and let them use the parking lot at half time... After watching todays Minnesota game I came to a conclusion that we are better off with a 35k stadium on campus with only 15k of chairback seating. The rest can be bleachers. They had a similar situation and there admin grew a pair after years on waiting for the Vikings... We can have the stadium built on Alvarado rd and tear down the old dorms... AS also bought 25 acres of apartment just north viejas arena were they can also build... I own a rental property in Mission Valley and no way will i allow a college stadium to be built on that site. My property value will go down. Im open for SDSU to make the site for hotels, research park, admin offices, open land park, restaurants, and were grad student can be completed their courses. I love my school but i dont want to see 18 to 22 year old drunk students lotering in my complex.
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Post by jmarshall on Sept 27, 2015 20:28:38 GMT -8
Really. Unless you feel that our old high facility called Peterson Gym is an equivalent starting point as Qualcomm. We did not have a facility fit for real college basketball. One cannot say that about Qualcomm. Splitting hairs perhaps, but before the new on campus arena was built, we were playing almost all of our Basketball games in the Sports Arena, not Peterson gym. Not really a Hgh School Gym.
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Post by myownwords on Sept 27, 2015 21:05:41 GMT -8
Really. Unless you feel that our old high facility called Peterson Gym is an equivalent starting point as Qualcomm. We did not have a facility fit for real college basketball. One cannot say that about Qualcomm. Splitting hairs perhaps, but before the new on campus arena was built, we were playing almost all of our Basketball games in the Sports Arena, not Peterson gym. Not really a Hgh School Gym. True, and honestly I forgot about that. It was coming apart too, before the Hahns remodeled it. I think the city was going to tear it down. But I think the dichotomy between starting points with basketball and football are significant and don't lend themselves to good comparisons.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 27, 2015 21:25:23 GMT -8
Inferred they had a significant junk of money allocated already. Interesting perception of what he said compared to what someone else told me whose tailgate Hirshman and Herrick visited. Not sure if your tailgate was the same one or not. As to a plan for a stadium, I would expect they'd have drawn that up years ago with their red/black crayons whether it's feasible or not. Would you share what that someone else told you so we can compare it to what fanhood reported in the original post?
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Post by retiredaztec on Sept 27, 2015 21:44:04 GMT -8
President Hershman came by the tailgate yesterday to say hello. When asked directly if there was a plan for a stadium, he said "we will have a stadium, and there is a plan for one." It was clear that this was separate from the Chargers situation. When asked where, he said "I cannot tell you that, that fact is my bargaining chip." Bottom line is, SDSU will have a college football stadium in the near future. Now, back to your regularly scheduled moaning..... I'm only assuming you're talking about a game where 18,000 fans showed up? Reminds me of the guy that wanted to build a Mormon Temple in Watts.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Sept 27, 2015 22:05:46 GMT -8
The bargaining chip could have to do with a new Chargers stadium. In the CSAG report, SDSU was being asked to contribute a significant chunk of change. The location could be Mission Valley, or just right on campus. Im a charger fan but im done with their stadium situation. Chargers have no interest in sharing a stadium with stinking San Diego State... They will do what Southwestern College does to Bonita High school which is lock most of the stadium and let them use the parking lot at half time... After watching todays Minnesota game I came to a conclusion that we are better off with a 35k stadium on campus with only 15k of chairback seating. The rest can be bleachers. They had a similar situation and there admin grew a pair after years on waiting for the Vikings... We can have the stadium built on Alvarado rd and tear down the old dorms... AS also bought 25 acres of apartment just north viejas arena were they can also build... I own a rental property in Mission Valley and no way will i allow a college stadium to be built on that site. My property value will go down. Im open for SDSU to make the site for hotels, research park, admin offices, open land park, restaurants, and were grad student can be completed their courses. I love my school but i dont want to see 18 to 22 year old drunk students lotering in my complex. You make zero sense. You are ok with SDSU building a West Campus expansion so long as it doesn't include a college stadium because you feel that the addition of a college stadium in addition to West Campus expansion will decrease your property value due to drunk students loitering in your complex??? Lol. The Chargers aren't going to get a stadium built in San Diego unless they pay for it themselves or the NFL does. They are free to go to extort some other US city. I agree SDSU will be fine with a 35,000 seat SDSU stadium with the ability for expansion to up to 50,000 if needed. Mission Valley will be an easier site to build an SDSU stadium due to the lawsuits that will slow a main campus football stadium.
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Post by aztecbolt on Sept 27, 2015 22:28:34 GMT -8
Find a away to build it on campus if you want to do it right.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 27, 2015 22:34:19 GMT -8
The bargaining chip could have to do with a new Chargers stadium. In the CSAG report, SDSU was being asked to contribute a significant chunk of change. The location could be Mission Valley, or just right on campus. Im a charger fan but im done with their stadium situation. Chargers have no interest in sharing a stadium with stinking San Diego State... They will do what Southwestern College does to Bonita High school which is lock most of the stadium and let them use the parking lot at half time... After watching todays Minnesota game I came to a conclusion that we are better off with a 35k stadium on campus with only 15k of chairback seating. The rest can be bleachers. They had a similar situation and there admin grew a pair after years on waiting for the Vikings... We can have the stadium built on Alvarado rd and tear down the old dorms... AS also bought 25 acres of apartment just north viejas arena were they can also build... I own a rental property in Mission Valley and no way will i allow a college stadium to be built on that site. My property value will go down. Im open for SDSU to make the site for hotels, research park, admin offices, open land park, restaurants, and were grad student can be completed their courses. I love my school but i dont want to see 18 to 22 year old drunk students lotering in my complex. The U of Minnesota administration didn't "grow a pair"--they grew one, and the State of Minnesota grew the other one. The State of California will not be paying for half of any SDSU stadium.
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Post by aardvark on Sept 27, 2015 22:38:08 GMT -8
Splitting hairs perhaps, but before the new on campus arena was built, we were playing almost all of our Basketball games in the Sports Arena, not Peterson gym. Not really a Hgh School Gym. True, and honestly I forgot about that. It was coming apart too, before the Hahns remodeled it. I think the city was going to tear it down. But I think the dichotomy between starting points with basketball and football are significant and don't lend themselves to good comparisons. The Hahns didn't really do much remodeling, unless you count a couple coats of paint a remodel. They have also done a few other minor things recently, but some of that (new boards, glass, scoreboard) was done in conjunction with the Anaheim Ducks (and they probably paid for a good chunk of it themselves).
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Post by aardvark on Sept 27, 2015 22:40:17 GMT -8
Im a charger fan but im done with their stadium situation. Chargers have no interest in sharing a stadium with stinking San Diego State... They will do what Southwestern College does to Bonita High school which is lock most of the stadium and let them use the parking lot at half time... After watching todays Minnesota game I came to a conclusion that we are better off with a 35k stadium on campus with only 15k of chairback seating. The rest can be bleachers. They had a similar situation and there admin grew a pair after years on waiting for the Vikings... We can have the stadium built on Alvarado rd and tear down the old dorms... AS also bought 25 acres of apartment just north viejas arena were they can also build... I own a rental property in Mission Valley and no way will i allow a college stadium to be built on that site. My property value will go down. Im open for SDSU to make the site for hotels, research park, admin offices, open land park, restaurants, and were grad student can be completed their courses. I love my school but i dont want to see 18 to 22 year old drunk students lotering in my complex. You make zero sense. You are ok with SDSU building a West Campus expansion so long as it doesn't include a college stadium because you feel that the addition of a college stadium in addition to West Campus expansion will decrease your property value due to drunk students loitering in your complex??? Lol. The Chargers aren't going to get a stadium built in San Diego unless they pay for it themselves or the NFL does. They are free to go to extort some other US city. I agree SDSU will be fine with a 35,000 seat SDSU stadium with the ability for expansion to up to 50,000 if needed. Mission Valley will be an easier site to build an SDSU stadium due to the lawsuits that will slow a main campus football stadium. Besides--if a new SDSU stadium is built in Mission Valley along with a campus expansion, wouldn't it be illegal for alcohol to be served to the masses during school functions in that stadium?
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Sept 28, 2015 6:53:41 GMT -8
You make zero sense. You are ok with SDSU building a West Campus expansion so long as it doesn't include a college stadium because you feel that the addition of a college stadium in addition to West Campus expansion will decrease your property value due to drunk students loitering in your complex??? Lol. The Chargers aren't going to get a stadium built in San Diego unless they pay for it themselves or the NFL does. They are free to go to extort some other US city. I agree SDSU will be fine with a 35,000 seat SDSU stadium with the ability for expansion to up to 50,000 if needed. Mission Valley will be an easier site to build an SDSU stadium due to the lawsuits that will slow a main campus football stadium. Besides--if a new SDSU stadium is built in Mission Valley along with a campus expansion, wouldn't it be illegal for alcohol to be served to the masses during school functions in that stadium? I don't know and I don't care. My ability to consume alcohol has nothing to do with my personal enjoyment of watching the Aztecs. That is not to say I don't enjoy having an adult beverage or two. Regardless, I would guess there will be designated tailgating areas or bars/restaurants where alcohol will be allowed like Fresno State does.
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Post by ab on Sept 28, 2015 7:25:02 GMT -8
Interesting perception of what he said compared to what someone else told me whose tailgate Hirshman and Herrick visited. Not sure if your tailgate was the same one or not. As to a plan for a stadium, I would expect they'd have drawn that up years ago with their red/black crayons whether it's feasible or not. Would you share what that someone else told you so we can compare it to what fanhood reported in the original post? Without mentioning names......word for word "Plans are done. Fundraising needed. We all pledged a $1000 and suggested they do a buy in like that from all alums." My perception of the 2nd half of this message is that they really are A LONG WAY from having the funds in place to build their own stadium of any price over a few thousand dollars.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 28, 2015 7:48:54 GMT -8
Would you share what that someone else told you so we can compare it to what fanhood reported in the original post? Without mentioning names......word for word "Plans are done. Fundraising needed. We all pledged a $1000 and suggested they do a buy in like that from all alums." My perception of the 2nd half of this message is that they really are A LONG WAY from having the funds in place to build their own stadium of any price over a few thousand dollars. So your saying Hershman told a random group of SDSU fans at a tailgate the financing plan is to have fans pledge $1000??? Yeah, I think your Full of it. SDSU has plenty of resources to back the financing. They may need an initial commitment from donations, but a successful $750 million fund drive is proof the donor well for SDSU is not dry.
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