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Post by HighNTight on Sept 17, 2015 14:15:36 GMT -8
Here ya go Alum 2003 Economic Impact of University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, AZ FUNDING & ECONOMIC IMPACT The overall cost of the stadium was approximately $455 million. The Arizona Sports & Tourism Authority provided $300.4 million to the overall construction of University of Phoenix Stadium. The Construction phase added 3,500 jobs and $400 million in economic benefits to area. The NFL Arizona Cardinals contribute approximately $150 million to the economy each year. The Tostitos Fiesta Bowl contributes approximately $140 million each year in economic impact. On game days there will be over 2,500 employees on site, ranging from event, team, facility, catering and concessions, security, and housekeeping operations and services. The 2011 BCS National Championship Game contributed 188 million to the local economy. www.universityofphoenixstadium.com/stadium/statistics____________________ Economic Impact of AT&T/Cowboys Stadium in Arlington Just google that one for all sorts of interesting info. No doubt you can do the same for all the newer stadiums in their locales. Just a few things you might want to consider ... Arizona Cardinals stadium authority faces funding shortfallJudge: Arizona must refund millions from rental-car tax that pays for stadiumsThe Arizona Sports and Tourism Authority is a State agency that accrues resources from across the state to offset the impact on Glendale, for the benefit of the entire state ... The population of the State of Arizona is 6.73M as compared to that of the City of San Diego at 1.36M.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 17, 2015 14:41:58 GMT -8
Arizona and Tourism don't even belong in the same paragraph.
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Post by HighNTight on Sept 17, 2015 14:51:56 GMT -8
Arizona and Tourism don't even belong in the same paragraph. Haha, they do have that Grand Canyon thing going for them ... and half the Hoover Dam too 10 Top Tourist Attractions in Arizona
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Post by pbnative on Sept 17, 2015 15:01:01 GMT -8
Arizona and Tourism don't even belong in the same paragraph. Haha, they do have that Grand Canyon thing going for them ... and half the Hoover Dam too 10 Top Tourist Attractions in ArizonaSpring training! lol Obviously AZ needs attractions, so I have no doubt the NFL stadium has some impact there. On the other hand (as has been pointed out) the NFL impact in San Diego is pretty much the same impact as a Gas lamp night club. On second thought, SD has to Pay the Chargers, so the night club is probably a bigger impact. lol
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Post by HighNTight on Sept 17, 2015 15:17:30 GMT -8
Spring training! lol Obviously AZ needs attractions, so I have no doubt the NFL stadium has some impact there. On the other hand (as has been pointed out) the NFL impact in San Diego is pretty much the same impact as a Gas lamp night club. On second thought, SD has to Pay the Chargers, so the night club is probably a bigger impact. lolyes ... that would be an obvious take away. My underlying point was to say that the State of Arizona is using statewide tourism dollars to offset the cost of their pro-sports stadia (and that includes money generated by the Cactus League) ... and should that funding fall short (as it has) they will be able to spread the difference across the entire state -- this is not the case in the City of San Diego. San Diego has a population of only 1.36M to absorb any shortage in stadium funding for a stadium that will be somewhere between 2-3 times the cost of that stadium in Glendale, AZ --- whilst still paying off the previous expansion of the Q and trying to expand a true economic engine (Convention Center) while fighting lawsuits the entire time. There is a world of difference between the State of Arizona the City of San Diego when it comes to stadium financing.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 17, 2015 15:28:39 GMT -8
Spring training! lol Obviously AZ needs attractions, so I have no doubt the NFL stadium has some impact there. On the other hand (as has been pointed out) the NFL impact in San Diego is pretty much the same impact as a Gas lamp night club. On second thought, SD has to Pay the Chargers, so the night club is probably a bigger impact. lolyes ... that would be an obvious take away. My underlying point was to say that the State of Arizona is using statewide tourism dollars to offset the cost of their pro-sports stadia (and that includes money generated by the Cactus League) ... and should that funding fall short (as it has) they will be able to spread the difference across the entire state -- this is not the case in the City of San Diego. San Diego has a population of only 1.36M to absorb any shortage in stadium funding for a stadium that will be somewhere between 2-3 times the cost of that stadium in Glendale, AZ --- whilst still paying off the previous expansion of the Q and trying to expand a true economic engine (Convention Center) while fighting lawsuits the entire time. There is a world of difference between the State of Arizona the City of San Diego when it comes to stadium financing. That is definitely a great point.
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Post by SD Johnny on Sept 18, 2015 8:06:33 GMT -8
When the Chargers broke off negotiations in June the City was offering them a deal that would have cost City residents $51 per year for a family of five for 30 years. If the Chargers get shut out of LA (incredibly unlikely) and are forced to come back to the table in San Diego expect it to be much more than that. The only way something gets done in San Diego is if the mayor doesn't put it to a vote.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Sept 18, 2015 8:50:09 GMT -8
Here ya go Alum 2003 Economic Impact of University of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale, AZ FUNDING & ECONOMIC IMPACT The overall cost of the stadium was approximately $455 million. The Arizona Sports & Tourism Authority provided $300.4 million to the overall construction of University of Phoenix Stadium. The Construction phase added 3,500 jobs and $400 million in economic benefits to area. The NFL Arizona Cardinals contribute approximately $150 million to the economy each year. The Tostitos Fiesta Bowl contributes approximately $140 million each year in economic impact. On game days there will be over 2,500 employees on site, ranging from event, team, facility, catering and concessions, security, and housekeeping operations and services. The 2011 BCS National Championship Game contributed 188 million to the local economy. www.universityofphoenixstadium.com/stadium/statistics____________________ Economic Impact of AT&T/Cowboys Stadium in Arlington Just google that one for all sorts of interesting info. No doubt you can do the same for all the newer stadiums in their locales. Isn't that nice. Where is your data for the economic impact of the Chargers on San Diego. Can't find any? Shocking.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Sept 18, 2015 10:24:57 GMT -8
NFL executive V.P. Eric Grubman said, according to Farmer. “If the cities were to present, they would just get polite attention. At a league meeting, in that room, nobody hears anything, particularly when there are outsiders and when we have a full agenda. They would be short presentations, and you’d be bringing in the state or city leadership in to do a big dog, horse and pony show and then nobody asks a question, or if they do it’s just sort of a polite one.” Ouch. profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/09/15/cities-hoping-to-keep-nfl-teams-to-be-shut-out-of-october-meetings/
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Post by aztecbolt on Sept 18, 2015 14:10:53 GMT -8
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Post by pbaztec17 on Sept 18, 2015 16:47:51 GMT -8
Pretty surprised no one has responded to this
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 18, 2015 17:22:10 GMT -8
When the Chargers broke off negotiations in June the City was offering them a deal that would have cost City residents $51 per year for a family of five for 30 years. If the Chargers get shut out of LA (incredibly unlikely) and are forced to come back to the table in San Diego expect it to be much more than that. The only way something gets done in San Diego is if the mayor doesn't put it to a vote. Really? I don't see it that way. If the Chargers cannot relocate to LA, would they not be coming back to San Diego with their tails between their legs? Having failed to move to LA, what leverage would they have? Oh, sure, they could threaten to move to Barstow or Lee Vining (there really is such a place; stayed in a motel there one night), to which the city fathers would laugh. Those same city fathers might well add, " If you want to continue playing in San Diego, we have a nice new rental agreement ready for you to sign. Please note the hefty rise in rental rates. Oh, you don't want to play in the Q anymore? Well, Barstow is very nice in the Fall. Lee Vining, not so much, of course." AzWm
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Sept 20, 2015 21:40:35 GMT -8
That is your opinion and certainly one that is not supported by fact. As has been discussed at length on this board and supported by facts is that the Chargers bring very little economic impact to the San Diego community. I will concede that they do bring the potential of civic pride. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars to appease the NFL/Chargers to remain in San Diego is folly. The land at Mission Valley could better be developed for the greater good of San Diego in many other ways. If that includes a community park, SDSU expansion, private tax-generating development or a combination of the three is yet to be determined. That being said if the citizens of San Diego vote to use public resources to keep the Chargers/NFL in San Diego then so be it. However, I don't believe the majority of the citizens of San Diego are foolish enough to vote for such a proposal. What FACTS can you provide or for that matter anybody provide that tells anybody about what the economic impact of the Chargers is? It's all a guestimate as they have NO WAY to KNOW what facts are. Your posts are all slanted against the Chargers/new stadium because YOU want the Aztecs to have their own sandbox in MValley. That's the only FACT that you've got. If you weren't so biased then maybe you could see the light but it's obvious you'd rather have San Diego to take a step backwards towards Green Acres. … crickets
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Post by aztecbolt on Sept 23, 2015 10:47:46 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 11:13:58 GMT -8
Spring training! lol Obviously AZ needs attractions, so I have no doubt the NFL stadium has some impact there. On the other hand (as has been pointed out) the NFL impact in San Diego is pretty much the same impact as a Gas lamp night club. On second thought, SD has to Pay the Chargers, so the night club is probably a bigger impact. lol No fan of AZ am I. I'm not quite sure why PHX even exists but Spring Training is not to be LOL'd at. I fly frequently on SW and many flights in and out of SD stop at Sky Harbor. During spring training, that place is crawling with baseball fans from all over and flights are packed. It's like an extended Comic Con.
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Post by standiego on Sept 23, 2015 11:19:46 GMT -8
So with the latest volley of articles about SDSU football , fans , coaches , .... what do you think about the city of San Diego wanting to help facilitate a facility for SDSU ?
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Post by pbnative on Sept 23, 2015 11:36:00 GMT -8
Spring training! lol Obviously AZ needs attractions, so I have no doubt the NFL stadium has some impact there. On the other hand (as has been pointed out) the NFL impact in San Diego is pretty much the same impact as a Gas lamp night club. On second thought, SD has to Pay the Chargers, so the night club is probably a bigger impact. lol No fan of AZ am I. I'm not quite sure why PHX even exists but Spring Training is not to be LOL'd at. I fly frequently on SW and many flights in and out of SD stop at Sky Harbor. During spring training, that place is crawling with baseball fans from all over and flights are packed. It's like an extended Comic Con. Wasn't laughing at it in sarcasm... I used to go every year with buddies. It is a great time.
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Post by aztecbolt on Sept 23, 2015 11:50:30 GMT -8
So with the latest volley of articles about SDSU football , fans , coaches , .... what do you think about the city of San Diego wanting to help facilitate a facility for SDSU ? It's sad times for Aztec football. I'll just leave it at that.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 13:19:08 GMT -8
So with the latest volley of articles about SDSU football , fans , coaches , .... what do you think about the city of San Diego wanting to help facilitate a facility for SDSU ? I never knew this approach was on the table. It's my understanding that Aztec Warrior Stadium will be funded through donations from our mega-rich donor base and our Harvard-like endowment. All that's needed is for Spanos to clear out of town and Marty Block's shear force of will take care of the rest. I don't mean to be a smart-ass ( ok..I do) but as I've said all along, the Aztecs NEED the chargers in order to improve their lot. Those that cannot see this self-evident fact are willfully blind to reality.
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