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Post by RiffelBooks on Aug 27, 2015 20:31:56 GMT -8
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Post by AztecD on Aug 27, 2015 20:35:42 GMT -8
Not a lot to show for it. I think the swagger of the new unis are gonna help us turn the corner this year!
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Post by uncledougy on Aug 27, 2015 20:36:04 GMT -8
Wow!!!! Impressive. Some powers have sent less than SDSU to the NFL. Still baffles me how the program doesn't "cross over" - like Boise has.... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2015 6:53:12 GMT -8
Wow!!!! Impressive. Some powers have sent less than SDSU to the NFL. Still baffles me how the program doesn't "cross over" - like Boise has.... I think our program has crossed over, it just has not shown up in the won-loss record yet. A few years ago, our kicking game cost us a top 25 ranking. We lost to San Jose State because of our kicking game, but we were beating them up pretty good. I blame Rocky for not making sure that part of our game was good enough. San Jose State went on to finish in the Top 25 that year, and we were a better team. Last year, poor QB play and very bad Offensive Coordinator execution cost SDSU several games where we were beating the other team in the trenches. One could argue that last years team, with a good QB and just an average OC, the Aztecs were top 25. I, like many others on this board think that SDSU might just break through to a top 25 ranking, once that happens, SDSU will control the MW, not BSU. Our team is definitely better talent wise then it has been, its deeper across the board. Our defense will be dominant this year and hopefully or OC won't crap all over the game with his play calling like Toledo did. Go Aztecs. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Aug 28, 2015 9:03:33 GMT -8
I remember in '79 or '80, we ranked No. 4 with the most active players in the NFL behind the likes of SC, Notre Dame and Nebraska. Crazy. We sent a TON of guys to the NFL in the '60s and '70s.
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Post by pbbroker on Aug 28, 2015 9:34:23 GMT -8
Impressive!
donde esta Boise?
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Aug 28, 2015 12:44:49 GMT -8
SDSU has always had the talent. The problem is that it never went deep enough in the lineup.
Think about how many big games we have lost in the fourth quarter when the starters were tired.
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Post by obboy13 on Aug 28, 2015 13:32:08 GMT -8
Maybe it is the unis, I don't know, but it's sure baffling. Al Luginbill had all that NFL talent and couldn't win, and he was ... oh yeah right, it's not the unis.
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Post by zurac315 on Aug 28, 2015 16:23:32 GMT -8
SDSU has always had the talent. The problem is that it never went deep enough in the lineup. Think about how many big games we have lost in the fourth quarter when the starters were tired. Think about only one winning season with M. Faulk on the team! |
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Post by aztecbolt on Aug 28, 2015 18:12:59 GMT -8
Good players need good coaching.
When is the last time SDSU has had a great head coach?
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Post by badfish on Aug 28, 2015 22:46:56 GMT -8
Good players need good coaching. When is the last time SDSU has had a great head coach? Define "great". HOF great, or: Most wins in MWC history. 2 time MWC coach of the year. Longest home winning streak in 28 years. Longest bowl streak in team history. "Great" for our teams' history, but not quite great in the bigger picture, yet. |
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Post by longtimebooster on Aug 29, 2015 7:24:55 GMT -8
Good players need good coaching. When is the last time SDSU has had a great head coach? Define "great". HOF great, or: Most wins in MWC history. 2 time MWC coach of the year. Longest home winning streak in 28 years. Longest bowl streak in team history. "Great" for our teams' history, but not quite great in the bigger picture, yet. Easy answer: Claude Gilbert or Don Coryell, if you like. And please don't start making the case that Long is great by comparing him to recent past luminaries like Hoke, Long I, Craft, Tollner, Lugie, Stoltz , Scovil, et. al. A few things: * Most wins in MGC history? That's mostly because he's been head coach the longest at two schools. Plus, the league's only been around for 16 or 17 years. Sorta like being the tallest person at a midget convention. * 2x MGC coach of the year? Good for him. * Longest home winning streak in 28 years? The MGC is a shell of its former self. UNLV? UNM? Hawaii? SJSU? etc. Truly awful teams and a massive downgrade from the likes of TCU, BYU and Utah. So winning 5 or 6 games in a row at home is not that impressive. And when I arrived at SDSU in 1978, I believe the Aztecs were something like 70-4-1 over the previous 15 years at home. And that included several 15+ home-game winning streaks. * Going to cr@ppy bowl games and losing them isn't something we should get all a twitter about. Sorry. |
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Post by SuperAztec on Aug 29, 2015 8:33:35 GMT -8
That is great - issue has always been we are one deep. NFL talent for sure through the years but not enough talent all at one time and not enough depth.
Also, it seems like through the years we always had a great O but no D or we had a great D but no O....or as you are all well aware ST screwed us.
Its super that guys know they can get to the league via SDSU but now is the time to see if we have a complete team (all 3 aspects of the game) and get over that hump.
Seems like we have most of the pieces in place sans some questions at QB. I for one, can't wait to see how this year plays out. We are on the radar so let's make sure we stay there and make an impact.
Sorry to get off topic.
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Post by myownwords on Aug 29, 2015 8:38:26 GMT -8
Weren't the majority, or largest chunk, of these NFL "talents" during the Coryell and Gilbert eras?
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Post by aztecfankrishnan on Aug 29, 2015 8:40:51 GMT -8
A lot of it is psychological. I really believe the football team just needs that one breakout season. Once we finally have that season where all the breaks go our way and we win all those close games the flood gates will open. I think we are that point. This team reminds me of the Fisher hoops teams right before the magical year. Just got to get it done. This is the year. No more excuses.
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Post by coloradoaztec on Aug 29, 2015 19:54:19 GMT -8
Actually, we've spread out our NFL players over quite a few years... even through the 90's - the recent bowl years. I've always told people like 10 years ago, that we seem to have more players in the NFL for a team that always is under 500 year after year... thus, we were the classic underachievers all the time.
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Post by alohaboarder on Aug 29, 2015 21:32:33 GMT -8
It would be nice to see which teams are trending up or down. How many spots lost or gained since 2000?
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Post by tonatiuh on Aug 31, 2015 20:48:05 GMT -8
I remember in '79 or '80, we ranked No. 4 with the most active players in the NFL behind the likes of SC, Notre Dame and Nebraska. Crazy. We sent a TON of guys to the NFL in the '60s and '70s. You bet your donkey we did! Because we had a coach (Coryell) who implemented a prostyle passing offense in the 60's which was more sophisticated than any college ever saw, or had. Any we continued it thru the 70's with Gilbert using it for his basic offense. Many of our players then had quite a schooling in both offense, and defense that was easy to transfer to the pro game without much change-up. In fact, a study was done in the early 70's on which school had the most players in the NFL at that time. We tied U$C for the lead in that category with 14 players each in the NFL. NOT BAD at all!!!  |
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Post by missiontrails on Aug 31, 2015 21:49:43 GMT -8
I remember in '79 or '80, we ranked No. 4 with the most active players in the NFL behind the likes of SC, Notre Dame and Nebraska. Crazy. We sent a TON of guys to the NFL in the '60s and '70s. You bet your donkey we did! Because we had a coach (Coryell) who implemented a prostyle passing offense in the 60's which was more sophisticated than any college ever saw, or had. Any we continued it thru the 70's with Gilbert using it for his basic offense. Many of our players then had quite a schooling in both offense, and defense that was easy to transfer to the pro game without much change-up. In fact, a study was done in the early 70's on which school had the most players in the NFL at that time. We tied U$C for the lead in that category with 14 players each in the NFL. NOT BAD at all!!! I remember for a while Grambling State was way up there too. Eddie Robinson knew how to find 'em. Of course, it's all about the money now. The best players tend to flock where the money and prestige is - SEC, B1G, and Pac12 mostly. |
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Post by Frantic on Aug 31, 2015 22:03:36 GMT -8
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