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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 26, 2015 20:42:28 GMT -8
We seem to ignore the cost of building a new stadium and the current sweetheart deal on sharing the stadium. If we get a similar deal with a new NFL stadium, it would probably be cheaper. A new NFL stadium would be incredible for the Aztecs. Bill.... better be careful with all these anti-Chargers and anti- new nfl caliber stadium folks on here since most of them couldn't see the forest through the trees. Its can't see the forest FOR the trees genius.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 26, 2015 22:42:23 GMT -8
...Right, because building a new stadium on campus versus building it on a newly acquired MV site is such a minor detail they should just go for it, amirite? Never said it was a minor detail but since they seem so unhappy playing in the NFL 60k seat stadium and only draw 30k i.e. 50% empty or full (your choice) it won't change with a new NFL stadium so why not build what they want on-campus since so many seem to think Sterk has a plan for a stadium on-campus and the funding to back it up. I suspect they should get started asap cuz you know there's going to be lawsuits up the butt if they try to build in on the current campus location. Sterk has already answered this question. SDSU has already studied the feasibility of an on campus (main campus) stadium and it can be done for around $200 million. However, it is not his first choice due to the inevitable law suits that would take years to resolve. SDSU's first choice is campus expansion at the Q site with a stadium built at that site in conjunction with the city, county and bowls. Also, if the Chargers do stay in San Diego I don't believe an NFL stadium will get built at the Mission Valley site; I think downtown will be the location. The Chargers have always been clear that downtown was their first choice.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 26, 2015 22:52:08 GMT -8
Interesting take a look at the top 10 cities ( population) 1 NY. 2 LA .3 Chicago . 4 Houston . 5 Phily . 6 Phoenix . 7 San Antonio . 8 San Diego . 9 Dallas . 10 San Jose . How many of those cities have a Public College football team that does well? 2. UCLA 3. NIU 4. Houston (not historically well but they did just build a brand new on campus football stadium) 6. ASU 8. SDSU is the only D-1 football program in San Diego 9. TCU 10. Cal Also interesting to note is that nearly every one of these college teams has to compete with an NFL team.
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Post by aardvark on Aug 26, 2015 23:41:06 GMT -8
Never said it was a minor detail but since they seem so unhappy playing in the NFL 60k seat stadium and only draw 30k i.e. 50% empty or full (your choice) it won't change with a new NFL stadium so why not build what they want on-campus since so many seem to think Sterk has a plan for a stadium on-campus and the funding to back it up. I suspect they should get started asap cuz you know there's going to be lawsuits up the butt if they try to build in on the current campus location. Sterk has already answered this question. SDSU has already studied the feasibility of an on campus (main campus) stadium and it can be done for around $200 million. However, it is not his first choice due to the inevitable law suits that would take years to resolve. SDSU's first choice is campus expansion at the Q site with a stadium built at that site in conjunction with the city, county and bowls. Also, if the Chargers do stay in San Diego I don't believe an NFL stadium will get built at the Mission Valley site; I think downtown will be the location. The Chargers have always been clear that downtown was their first choice. Downtown has not been the Chargers first choice for all that long--only since about 2011. Plus, there really hasn't been any concrete proposal in San Diego by the Chargers for a stadium anywhere in San Diego.
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Post by ab on Aug 27, 2015 7:06:46 GMT -8
Sterk had his list to accomplish in his drive for 25 or whatever he called it in the last year. My question was simple, but apparently too complicated for you. I'll ask it again, how many of his line items have been accomplished and which ones are they? Don't bother answering Tightee Whiteees "During the next 25 months, the university and athletic department will focus resources and attention on ensuring financial stability for the program, addressing stadium improvements, and ensuring a solid season-ticket base."To carry the plan forward, SDSU will actively engage the entire San Diego community to achieve a clearly established series of goals, including: • Investing in major enhancements to improve the Qualcomm Stadium experience for fans and players • Improving the game day experience for fans • Improving the student-athlete experience • Increasing attendance at home football games So basically you want to know if these goals (that were announced on Dec 23, 2014) have been accomplished by Aug 26, 2015 for the a season that doesn't kick off until Sept 05, 2015? Or did you want to go back to the $10M in facility and salary investments referenced in the previous list? Gee, you're actually getting closer. So what have then actually done for the first three above? If they haven't figured it out yet then it won't matter when we kickoff.
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Post by ab on Aug 27, 2015 7:11:37 GMT -8
Bill.... better be careful with all these anti-Chargers and anti- new nfl caliber stadium folks on here since most of them couldn't see the forest through the trees. Its can't see the forest FOR the trees genius. Different quote Simpleton www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/s/sloanecros506301.html
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Post by ab on Aug 27, 2015 7:13:56 GMT -8
Never said it was a minor detail but since they seem so unhappy playing in the NFL 60k seat stadium and only draw 30k i.e. 50% empty or full (your choice) it won't change with a new NFL stadium so why not build what they want on-campus since so many seem to think Sterk has a plan for a stadium on-campus and the funding to back it up. I suspect they should get started asap cuz you know there's going to be lawsuits up the butt if they try to build in on the current campus location. Sterk has already answered this question. SDSU has already studied the feasibility of an on campus (main campus) stadium and it can be done for around $200 million. However, it is not his first choice due to the inevitable law suits that would take years to resolve. SDSU's first choice is campus expansion at the Q site with a stadium built at that site in conjunction with the city, county and bowls. Ya got a link to where/when he said that? thx (I must have missed that email)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 7:47:29 GMT -8
Florio hasn't been right about a single thing when it comes to this issue. He's Fabiani's butt boy and a reliable reporter of conventional "wisdom". Did he report that Kroenke and Spanos were early partners in this process and that Stan threw Alex over the side when he decided he could do it himself, forcing Alex to pitch to idiotic Carson scheme? He didn't? Must have been an oversight.
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Post by standiego on Aug 27, 2015 7:54:49 GMT -8
Yes of the top 10 cities only LA with UCLA / USC (private school) and Phoenix have a top 25 rated college team . The college teams in NY, Chicago , Houston , Phily , San Antonio , San Diego , Dallas ( SMU not TCU - is in Ft Worth , also both private ),San Jose 's is San Jose State ( CAL is closest to S.F also not sure they are top 25 ). Are not in the top 25 for college football . Cities are more metropolitan , have a lot of other issues they want to cover before their local public college football team . Also cities 11-20 basically Austin and Columbus have top ranked college football teams in their city . Ft Worth has Private TCU. Seattle / U of Washington is it top 25 ? Just seems that the smaller college cities can rally the areas behind them ,as it is their main focus and money maker . BSU has how many states near it that have no major city / state / or Pro team in any sport , so full support to BSU .Main supplier of revenue , jobs , from the sports teams ad school itself . Add all these things , so does being a major metro city hurt a college football team more then benefit it ? There are major benefits but also if the alums do not organize and make things happen the city does not listen to what the university may need .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:02:30 GMT -8
Florio hasn't been right about a single thing when it comes to this issue. He's Fabiani's butt boy and a reliable reporter of conventional "wisdom". Did he report that Kroenke and Spanos were early partners in this process and that Stan threw Alex over the side when he decided he could do it himself, forcing Alex to pitch to idiotic Carson scheme? He didn't? Must have been an oversight. I'm just reporting whats out there And are talking about DEAN? you ARE flustered... Hang in there kitty!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:24:22 GMT -8
Florio hasn't been right about a single thing when it comes to this issue. He's Fabiani's butt boy and a reliable reporter of conventional "wisdom". Did he report that Kroenke and Spanos were early partners in this process and that Stan threw Alex over the side when he decided he could do it himself, forcing Alex to pitch to idiotic Carson scheme? He didn't? Must have been an oversight. I'm just reporting whats out there And are talking about DEAN? you ARE flustered... Hang in there kitty!!!! Dean,. my bad. I'm the least flustered person in this forum. I've said from the very beginning that the stadium will be built downtown in conjuntion with a convention center expansion. I'll go ahead and stick with that prediction along with my prediction that the Aztecs will be playing downtown in the new facility and it will be the best thing that ever happened to the program. Oh, and that SDSU will never expand to the Mission Valley site. I'll go ahead and stick with that prediction also.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 8:39:17 GMT -8
Yes of the top 10 cities only LA with UCLA / USC (private school) and Phoenix have a top 25 rated college team . The college teams in NY, Chicago , Houston , Phily , San Antonio , San Diego , Dallas ( SMU not TCU - is in Ft Worth , also both private ),San Jose 's is San Jose State ( CAL is closest to S.F also not sure they are top 25 ). Are not in the top 25 for college football . Cities are more metropolitan , have a lot of other issues they want to cover before their local public college football team . Also cities 11-20 basically Austin and Columbus have top ranked college football teams in their city . Ft Worth has Private TCU. Seattle / U of Washington is it top 25 ? Just seems that the smaller college cities can rally the areas behind them ,as it is their main focus and money maker . BSU has how many states near it that have no major city / state / or Pro team in any sport , so full support to BSU .Main supplier of revenue , jobs , from the sports teams ad school itself . Add all these things , so does being a major metro city hurt a college football team more then benefit it ? There are major benefits but also if the alums do not organize and make things happen the city does not listen to what the university may need . Since thee are only 10 "top 10" cities and 128 programs, the numbers are against you. but if you assume all top 10 cities have D1 programs (they don't)they would represent roughly 8% of all D1 programs. Two of the top 10 cities are represented in the top 25, that's also 8%. When you consider that NYC and Dallas don't have public D1 programs, Top 10 cities are actually OVER represented in the Top 25.
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Post by HighNTight on Aug 27, 2015 8:48:20 GMT -8
"During the next 25 months, the university and athletic department will focus resources and attention on ensuring financial stability for the program, addressing stadium improvements, and ensuring a solid season-ticket base."To carry the plan forward, SDSU will actively engage the entire San Diego community to achieve a clearly established series of goals, including: • Investing in major enhancements to improve the Qualcomm Stadium experience for fans and players • Improving the game day experience for fans • Improving the student-athlete experience • Increasing attendance at home football games So basically you want to know if these goals (that were announced on Dec 23, 2014) have been accomplished by Aug 26, 2015 for the a season that doesn't kick off until Sept 05, 2015? Or did you want to go back to the $10M in facility and salary investments referenced in the previous list? Gee, you're actually getting closer. So what have then actually done for the first three above? If they haven't figured it out yet then it won't matter when we kickoff. seriously ... do you even follow the program? Investing in major enhancements to improve the Qualcomm Stadium experience for fans and players - an ongoing effort that includes reaching out to fans for feedback about their experience and trying new things ... within the constraints placed upon the program by the Chargers Improving the game day experience for fans - see above Improving the student-athlete experience -COA, facility improvements, staff additions and more
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Post by ab on Aug 27, 2015 10:01:03 GMT -8
Gee, you're actually getting closer. So what have then actually done for the first three above? If they haven't figured it out yet then it won't matter when we kickoff. seriously ... do you even follow the program? Investing in major enhancements to improve the Qualcomm Stadium experience for fans and players - an ongoing effort that includes reaching out to fans for feedback about their experience and trying new things ... within the constraints placed upon the program by the Chargers Improving the game day experience for fans - see above Improving the student-athlete experience -COA, facility improvements, staff additions and more Your generic answers don't cut it. I'm asking for specifics as to what they've done. Your "investing in major enhancements" - HOW MUCH? WHAT DID THEY DO TO CHANGE THINGS? Your "trying new things" oh boy..that says a lot. Improving the student-athlete experience- Your "staff additions" who? what do they do? Hey, as I said, Unlike you, I've got far more important and enjoyable things to do with my 24 hours/daily than to hang on every word that comes out of Fort Montezuma. If you can answer the specifics than do so. If you can't than admit you don't know.....for once.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 27, 2015 10:50:10 GMT -8
seriously ... do you even follow the program? Investing in major enhancements to improve the Qualcomm Stadium experience for fans and players - an ongoing effort that includes reaching out to fans for feedback about their experience and trying new things ... within the constraints placed upon the program by the Chargers Improving the game day experience for fans - see above Improving the student-athlete experience -COA, facility improvements, staff additions and more Your generic answers don't cut it. I'm asking for specifics as to what they've done. Your "investing in major enhancements" - HOW MUCH? WHAT DID THEY DO TO CHANGE THINGS? Your "trying new things" oh boy..that says a lot. Improving the student-athlete experience- Your "staff additions" who? what do they do? Hey, as I said, Unlike you, I've got far more important and enjoyable things to do with my 24 hours/daily than to hang on every word that comes out of Fort Montezuma. If you can answer the specifics than do so. If you can't than admit you don't know.....for once. So instead you spend your time CRITICIZING everything you think happens with SDSU without actually paying attention to what actually IS happening. Makes perfect sense.
Game day experience: WE HAVEN'T HAD A GAME DAY big guy, so why don't you wait & see what's going on. They've reached out to students & season ticket holders to get feedback so they can implement improvements; they have entertainment before EVERY game including DJ's, bands & other events. There will be Gigtown, carnival rides for kids (now at EVERY game), student tailgates, even things like Car club displays.
And if you really want to know what's going on with the game day experience, fork over the money to get into the Champions tent, enjoy the food & drink ($15 per game is an amazing deal for food & unlimited beer/wine), sample some vodka, and take a few minutes to talk to all the people with the AD dept who are hanging around the event. Get a CLUE.
Improving student experience: over $1mm towards COA, not only one of the only schools in the entire conference but among ALL G5's to do this for ALL scholarship athletes; completion of JAM center, the recent addition of the softball clubhouse, weight room upgrades, and the assistant football coaches are as good as we've had.
Instead of bitching & whining and asking what's been done & being a burden to everyone else on this board, why don't you take a proactive stance & actually check it out yourself? Google can be a friendly tool, as can the phone. Or hit the Champions tent at Aztec Village & figure it out for yourself.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Aug 27, 2015 11:08:55 GMT -8
Sterk has already answered this question. SDSU has already studied the feasibility of an on campus (main campus) stadium and it can be done for around $200 million. However, it is not his first choice due to the inevitable law suits that would take years to resolve. SDSU's first choice is campus expansion at the Q site with a stadium built at that site in conjunction with the city, county and bowls. Ya got a link to where/when he said that? thx (I must have missed that email) I don't have the link (though you can search for them on youtube/goaztecs/mighty 1090 etc). It is information he has given during interviews over the last several months on the mighty 1090.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Aug 27, 2015 11:13:00 GMT -8
Months ago some profit wrote those very words on the subway walls and tenement halls.
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 27, 2015 12:24:39 GMT -8
You quoted a guy who was spoofing the original quote. For your own sake, don't use your version of the quote in public because you'll look dumb.
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Post by ab on Aug 27, 2015 15:14:04 GMT -8
You quoted a guy who was spoofing the original quote. For your own sake, don't use your version of the quote in public because you'll look dumb. You look dumb no matter what you say or write. Having that photo of your icon Schilling as your avatar is impressive. I didn't know you had him as your idol.
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