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Post by Montezumas Revenge 88 on Aug 24, 2015 17:11:25 GMT -8
UT San Diego's Mark Ziegler weighs in on the success of the JAM Center fundraising drive on 1090 and gives a comparative view on what the football team could potentially do to reach the same stature as the basketball team. radio interview chimes in on SDSU's programs at about the 9:50 mark: www.mighty1090.com/episode/mark-zeigler-on/
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 17:34:25 GMT -8
Ziegler is a clown.
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Post by standiego on Aug 24, 2015 17:53:12 GMT -8
Disagree Zeigler is correct . JAM Center money came primarily from private donors to the MBB program . Why because they are a high level team . Big money donors are not even alums but like Basketball . Fowler liked football so he game 5 million to football . Big raise in MBB tickets went to fund all athletes stipends . Football team needs to get its act together and win the MW as a starter .
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Post by SD Johnny on Aug 24, 2015 17:55:02 GMT -8
Ziegler wanted SDSU to cancel its football program. Eff that guy.
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Post by aero1 on Aug 24, 2015 17:58:16 GMT -8
Ziegler wanted SDSU to cancel its football program. Eff that guy. When did he say this?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 18:08:08 GMT -8
Ziegler wanted SDSU to cancel its football program. Eff that guy. When did he say this? Do a google search, Aztec sports were around prior to the Zag game. Of note in his logic gaps, he advocated for the basketball team to go to the Big West, then he advocated for the basketball team not to go to the Big West as part of the Big East Deal, and now he says it doesn't matter where the basketball team plays. Eff that clown.
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Post by Sdsu4life on Aug 24, 2015 18:24:04 GMT -8
Do a google search, Aztec sports were around prior to the Zag game. Of note in his logic gaps, he advocated for the basketball team to go to the Big West, then he advocated for the basketball team not to go to the Big West as part of the Big East Deal, and now he says it doesn't matter where the basketball team plays. Eff that clown. All that is besides the topic of this article. Regardless, he brings up a point. Basketball is on a national level. Donors are contributing financially to help the basketball team. If we got our football team to that level (i.e. Boise state) and sustain that for a few years, the donors (Alumn and non Alumn) will start handing over a lot of money. A big part of that is the foundation of the staff. Fish and Co are a massive part of all this. The donors believe in the coaches. We need a Hoke who will stay for a decade. But that just isn't possible. Being in a smaller conference in basketball isn't as detrimental as being in a smaller conference for football.
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Post by azteca on Aug 24, 2015 18:27:53 GMT -8
Ziegler, by far, is the most intelligent and best writer for the UT. He supports ALL Aztec programs. When he said what he said years ago, he was looking at what the possibilities for Aztec athletics to survive. Fortunately he was wrong. I have spoken with him on several occasions at mutual friends end of summer bbqs and he is in the Aztec camp. Hope for another chance to talk to him this year in a couple of weeks. But to call him a clown is weak at best!!!
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 18:30:37 GMT -8
Do a google search, Aztec sports were around prior to the Zag game. Of note in his logic gaps, he advocated for the basketball team to go to the Big West, then he advocated for the basketball team not to go to the Big West as part of the Big East Deal, and now he says it doesn't matter where the basketball team plays. Eff that clown. All that is besides the topic of this article. Regardless, he brings up a point. Basketball is on a national level. Donors are contributing financially to help the basketball team. If we got our football team to that level (i.e. Boise state) and sustain that for a few years, the donors (Alumn and non Alumn) will start handing over a lot of money. A big part of that is the foundation of the staff. Fish and Co are a massive part of all this. The donors believe in the coaches. We need a Hoke who will stay for a decade. But that just isn't possible. Being in a smaller conference in basketball isn't as detrimental as being in a smaller conference for football. Well then you and Ziegler disagree, State Football has a Ceiling no matter what it does per the douchebag. And the smaller conference for Basketball was a problem to Ziegler just a few years ago. Eff him.
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Post by sdsuballer on Aug 24, 2015 20:28:33 GMT -8
I agree with Ziegler. "He told it like it is." I donated money towards the Jam Center which I would not do for the football program. No matter how much Sterk and Long try to spin the numbers the football program is in a decline. Don't get me wrong I like Rocky as a person, I just get a feeling he is comfortable with having a mediocre program. We hit a peak as a program in Ronny Hillman's and Hoke's last year. Since then we have filled our scheduled with a bunch of cupcakes which have inflated Rocky's record. I have a fat check waiting for the football program if they win 3 out of 4 big games this year. Rocky's progress will be evaluated in my mind by the following games: Cal, Penn St, MWC Championship, and Bowl Game. The rest of the games are like watching a Varsity team vs a Frosoph team play each other. Therefore, even a mediocre coach should easily win 10 games. #No more Excuses#
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 20:34:57 GMT -8
I agree with Ziegler. "He told it like it is." I donated money towards the Jam Center which I would not do for the football program. No matter how much Sterk and Long try to spin the numbers the football program is in a decline. Don't get me wrong I like Rocky as a person, I just get a feeling he is comfortable with having a mediocre program. We hit a peak as a program in Ronny Hillman's and Hoke's last year. Since then we have filled our scheduled with a bunch of cupcakes which have inflated Rocky's record. I have a fat check waiting for the football program if they win 3 out of 4 big games this year. Rocky's progress will be evaluated in my mind by the following games: Cal, Penn St, MWC Championship, and Bowl Game. The rest of the games are like watching a Varsity team vs a Frosoph team play each other. Therefore, even a mediocre coach should easily win 10 games. #No more Excuses# Lol, clueless. Hoke and Hillmans last year were different years. And the school nor the coaches have control over the CONFERENCE schedule, which is the only thing that's changed since 2010. Oh, we do have home games against regional PAC schools now though.
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Post by rednblk on Aug 24, 2015 20:39:11 GMT -8
Can we get TES to do a rap video for the football squad?!?!
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 20:55:44 GMT -8
I agree with Ziegler. "He told it like it is." I donated money towards the Jam Center which I would not do for the football program. No matter how much Sterk and Long try to spin the numbers the football program is in a decline. Don't get me wrong I like Rocky as a person, I just get a feeling he is comfortable with having a mediocre program. We hit a peak as a program in Ronny Hillman's and Hoke's last year. Since then we have filled our scheduled with a bunch of cupcakes which have inflated Rocky's record. I have a fat check waiting for the football program if they win 3 out of 4 big games this year. Rocky's progress will be evaluated in my mind by the following games: Cal, Penn St, MWC Championship, and Bowl Game. The rest of the games are like watching a Varsity team vs a Frosoph team play each other. Therefore, even a mediocre coach should easily win 10 games. #No more Excuses# Did you donate to the Excellence Campaign after the 2010 Season or was there another excuse you used back in 2010 not to support the football program?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 20:56:58 GMT -8
Can we get TES to do a rap video for the football squad?!?! Google Tim Shelton and Run it Back.
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Post by matteosandiego on Aug 24, 2015 21:02:52 GMT -8
Sterks interview after Zieglar was also noteworthy. After winning championships, the football program is really handcuffed to a certain degree without a new stadium facility.
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Post by sdsudevil on Aug 24, 2015 21:05:07 GMT -8
I agree with Ziegler. "He told it like it is." I donated money towards the Jam Center which I would not do for the football program. No matter how much Sterk and Long try to spin the numbers the football program is in a decline. Don't get me wrong I like Rocky as a person, I just get a feeling he is comfortable with having a mediocre program. We hit a peak as a program in Ronny Hillman's and Hoke's last year. Since then we have filled our scheduled with a bunch of cupcakes which have inflated Rocky's record. I have a fat check waiting for the football program if they win 3 out of 4 big games this year. Rocky's progress will be evaluated in my mind by the following games: Cal, Penn St, MWC Championship, and Bowl Game. The rest of the games are like watching a Varsity team vs a Frosoph team play each other. Therefore, even a mediocre coach should easily win 10 games. #No more Excuses# Name Hoke's biggest win. Now name Rocky's. You are looking at Hoke like an old ex-girlfriend, all sunshine, while downplaying what you currently have.
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Post by sdsuballer on Aug 24, 2015 21:12:56 GMT -8
This whole tread was started by a "Stu**d" question by Darren Smith. Darren sounded jeoulous of SDSU basketball having their own practice facility. 15 million dollars would do jack squat for the football program. The facilities at SDSU are great if he actually takes a walk around campus. What we don't have is an on Campus Stadium. A 40,000 seat stadium with some bell and whistles would cost around 200 mil. The San Jose Quake just built a 18,000 seat soccer stadium at a cost of 100 mil. San Jose construction cost is little more pricier than San Diego.
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Post by sdsuballer on Aug 24, 2015 21:22:57 GMT -8
I agree with Ziegler. "He told it like it is." I donated money towards the Jam Center which I would not do for the football program. No matter how much Sterk and Long try to spin the numbers the football program is in a decline. Don't get me wrong I like Rocky as a person, I just get a feeling he is comfortable with having a mediocre program. We hit a peak as a program in Ronny Hillman's and Hoke's last year. Since then we have filled our scheduled with a bunch of cupcakes which have inflated Rocky's record. I have a fat check waiting for the football program if they win 3 out of 4 big games this year. Rocky's progress will be evaluated in my mind by the following games: Cal, Penn St, MWC Championship, and Bowl Game. The rest of the games are like watching a Varsity team vs a Frosoph team play each other. Therefore, even a mediocre coach should easily win 10 games. #No more Excuses# Name Hoke's biggest win. Now name Rocky's. You are looking at Hoke like an old ex-girlfriend, all sunshine, while downplaying what you currently have. #23 Air Force and Navy (Brady Hoke). This even after no one would touch this program in two years worth of rebuilding. The real question is how many FCS teams did Brady Hoke or/and Rocky Long lose while head coach SDSU?
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Post by FULL_MONTY on Aug 24, 2015 22:03:46 GMT -8
Sterks interview after Zieglar was also noteworthy. After winning championships, the football program is really handcuffed to a certain degree without a new stadium facility. Sterk basically lowered some boom on some nonsense from Ziegler and USA Today and then just chummed the stadium waters. Damn good 30 minutes.
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Post by sdcoug on Aug 24, 2015 22:03:57 GMT -8
This whole tread was started by a "Stu**d" question by Darren Smith. Darren sounded jeoulous of SDSU basketball having their own practice facility. 15 million dollars would do jack squat for the football program. The facilities at SDSU are great if he actually takes a walk around campus. What we don't have is an on Campus Stadium. A 40,000 seat stadium with some bell and whistles would cost around 200 mil. The San Jose Quake just built a 18,000 seat soccer stadium at a cost of 100 mil. San Jose construction cost is little more pricier than San Diego. It's a legit question and debate. We are definitely greatly hamstrung by our football stadium, but $15m can do a LOT for the football program. For one, the next project is expanding Fowler, and that would fund or come close to funding the expansion. Improving the weight facilities, training room, training table, etc. can pay huge dividends. With the stadium situation we're not going to be able to do a FOB like BSU and others are adding, but we NEED to be doing everything possible to improve Fowler. The bar has been reset. SIGNIFICANTLY. This perception that our football facilities are perfectly fine is a myth. We need the Chargers issue to be settled, ASAP.
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