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Post by tuff on Jul 30, 2015 13:05:42 GMT -8
Football runs the engine. I will bet in the last 6 years or so more people in the country tuned in to Boise State football games than SDSU. Certainly more people have attended their home games. And they beat quality P-5 competition in big time games,also. SDSU, what a joke.. Fans in San Diego area have such an inflated ego over nothing. We should have applied to the Big 12 when we had Marshall Faulk 20+ years ago. No disrespect to Boise State; they have a great football program. However, if winning was a primary factor in conference expansion why have they already not received an invitation from the PAC 12, B1G or BIG XII? And actually, Boise State home attendance and SDSU home attendance is very similar. Well, they never really pursued it until this realignment stuff took off. In fact, no one did. I did push for the Big 12 in the early nineties, but fell on deaf ears. And in the world of sports, football is the biggie. I just think that previous administrations were just too small, or shnall, thinking back then.
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Jul 30, 2015 13:41:26 GMT -8
The day that BYU/BSU are asked to join the BigXII...
...will be the exact same day that Texas and Oklahoma announce that they are leaving the conference...
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Post by retiredaztec on Jul 30, 2015 13:55:21 GMT -8
Football runs the engine. I will bet in the last 6 years or so more people in the country tuned in to Boise State football games than SDSU. Certainly more people have attended their home games. And they beat quality P-5 competition in big time games,also. SDSU, what a joke.. Fans in San Diego area have such an inflated ego over nothing. We should have applied to the Big 12 when we had Marshall Faulk 20+ years ago. No disrespect to Boise State; they have a great football program. However, if winning was a primary factor in conference expansion why have they already not received an invitation from the PAC 12, B1G or BIG XII? And actually, Boise State home attendance and SDSU home attendance is very similar. Living in SLC for the last 15 years, I've read all the qualities that allowed Utah to ascend to the next level, none of which Aztec football possesses. As far as comparing home attendance, BSU doesn't have fans dressed as empty seats. You'd apparently be surprised what a full stadium, regardless of its size, can do to build up a program.
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Post by alamobruin on Jul 30, 2015 15:57:36 GMT -8
No disrespect to Boise State; they have a great football program. However, if winning was a primary factor in conference expansion why have they already not received an invitation from the PAC 12, B1G or BIG XII? And actually, Boise State home attendance and SDSU home attendance is very similar. Well, they never really pursued it until this realignment stuff took off. In fact, no one did. I did push for the Big 12 in the early nineties, but fell on deaf ears. And in the world of sports, football is the biggie. I just think that previous administrations were just too small, or shnall, thinking back then. I can understand how your "push" for inclusion into the Big 12 may have fallen on deaf ears in the early 90s, since the Big 12 didn't exist in the early 90s. But kudos for being ahead of the curve. If TCU had pushed to get into the Big 12 before the league was envisioned, they might not have had to wait so long.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 30, 2015 21:50:39 GMT -8
No disrespect to Boise State; they have a great football program. However, if winning was a primary factor in conference expansion why have they already not received an invitation from the PAC 12, B1G or BIG XII? And actually, Boise State home attendance and SDSU home attendance is very similar. Living in SLC for the last 15 years, I've read all the qualities that allowed Utah to ascend to the next level, none of which Aztec football possesses. As far as comparing home attendance, BSU doesn't have fans dressed as empty seats. You'd apparently be surprised what a full stadium, regardless of its size, can do to build up a program. It's difficult to have fans dressed as empty seats when you only have 37,000 seats to fill as Boise State does vs 72,000 seats as SDSU does. This Is precisely one of the reasons it is not in SDSU's best interest to share an NFL stadium but rather build a 40,000 seat college football stadium that is more appropriate for their needs. What are these qualities that allowed Utah to ascend to the next level?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 8:19:57 GMT -8
MWC Connection is the same guy who ran Surf the Spear. Let that sink in for a moment. Good job on the new avatar.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 8:22:57 GMT -8
No disrespect to Boise State; they have a great football program. However, if winning was a primary factor in conference expansion why have they already not received an invitation from the PAC 12, B1G or BIG XII? And actually, Boise State home attendance and SDSU home attendance is very similar. Living in SLC for the last 15 years, I've read all the qualities that allowed Utah to ascend to the next level, none of which Aztec football possesses.As far as comparing home attendance, BSU doesn't have fans dressed as empty seats. You'd apparently be surprised what a full stadium, regardless of its size, can do to build up a program. And those would be?
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jul 31, 2015 8:52:21 GMT -8
Watch any game from Boise State and check out a wide shot of the stands. They never sell out, not even against BYU, and they have a consistent problem with no shows. Petersen used to complain about it.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 31, 2015 9:08:51 GMT -8
Phil, Boise suffers from the same attendance disease that plagues us: uninteresting MWC opponents.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 31, 2015 9:36:32 GMT -8
Phil, Boise suffers from the same attendance disease that plagues us: uninteresting MWC opponents. Boise rarely sells out their 37,000 seat stadium but it still has a great atmosphere because it is an appropriate size stadium for their program. We need to do the same.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jul 31, 2015 10:38:42 GMT -8
Phil, Boise suffers from the same attendance disease that plagues us: uninteresting MWC opponents. But we suffer from a disease Boise State has not had: Ours has been a dull, frustrating, underachieving football team that gave us no good reason to go see it. BSU has spent a decade as a crowd-pleasing college football phenomenon that has cranked kids into the pros and had the whole country buzzing. At a place like Boise, what are the fans doing getting jaded about the low quality of the opponents? Their own team is supposed to be the draw. The Aztecs would be a hot ticket here if they were as entertaining and as highly regarded as the Broncos. It's happened before. Boise's big problem is that it's located in Boise, a city of roughly 600K. The Big 12 will not want them, no matter how many football games they win.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 31, 2015 10:42:14 GMT -8
Phil, Boise suffers from the same attendance disease that plagues us: uninteresting MWC opponents. But we suffer from a disease Boise State has not had: Ours has been a dull, frustrating, underachieving football team that gave us no good reason to go see it. BSU has spent a decade as a crowd-pleasing college football phenomenon that has cranked kids into the pros and had the whole country buzzing. At a place like Boise, what are the fans doing getting jaded about the low quality of the opponents? Their own team is supposed to be the draw. The Aztecs would be a hot ticket here if they were as entertaining and as highly regarded as the Broncos. It's happened before. Boise's big problem is that it's located in Boise, a city of roughly 600K. The Big 12 will not want them, no matter how many football games they win. The metropolitan (and that term is used loosely for rural Idaho) area may be 600k+... but the city itself is 200k+.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 31, 2015 10:43:33 GMT -8
Phil, Boise suffers from the same attendance disease that plagues us: uninteresting MWC opponents. But we suffer from a disease Boise State has not had: Ours has been a dull, frustrating, underachieving football team that gave us no good reason to go see it. BSU has spent a decade as a crowd-pleasing college football phenomenon that has cranked kids into the pros and had the whole country buzzing. At a place like Boise, what are the fans doing getting jaded about the low quality of the opponents? Their own team is supposed to be the draw. The Aztecs would be a hot ticket here if they were as entertaining and as highly regarded as the Broncos. It's happened before. Boise's big problem is that it's located in Boise, a city of roughly 600K. The Big 12 will not want them, no matter how many football games they win. Unfortunately, when it comes to football, we have a disinterested Administration, sprinkled with incompetence and a HC with no fire, afflicted with LE---Low Expectations.
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Post by standiego on Jul 31, 2015 10:51:14 GMT -8
Preseason poll came out the other day had TCU and Baylor in the top 4 or 5 teams . Do you really think there is any other focus for B12 then to try to get a team in the playoffs , championship game and possibly win it ? Right now B12 is seen near bottom of the P5 conferences . Get into the playoffs and win a game or two and their power increases greatly, makes their TV games value increase , and who knows what becomes of the expansion talks .
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