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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 23, 2015 16:19:09 GMT -8
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Post by myownwords on Jul 23, 2015 16:28:03 GMT -8
P3?
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Post by aztech on Jul 23, 2015 18:23:15 GMT -8
IF such a thing happens, I think that would really open the door for G5 schools located in the East to be invited to the ACC. Without TX the Big 12 would have nowhere to go, but West. The ACC would snag the schools that the Big 12 would target to suit WVa. The Big 10 controls the BTN. ESPN tried to broker them, but they told them to FO so the Big 10 owns the inventory that ESPN could have sold to other networks. The more markets the Big acquires, the richer they become. They're making a ton as it is. For our sake I hope the Big pulls it off.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 24, 2015 11:41:21 GMT -8
BIG XII forms Expansion CommitteeWell, Gee is on the Big 12’s expansion committee. And get this: There are only three members. When reached via Big 12 Associate Commissioner Bob Burda, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said those on the “Composition Committee” are Gee, Boren and Baylor University President Ken Starr. That’s it. 3-Member Committee 1. Gordon Gee - West Virginia University President 2. David Boren - Oklahoma University President 3. Ken Starr - Baylor University President Possible candidates for expansion include BYU, Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Houston and Memphis. I asked Gee, though, if there are any serious contenders currently before the committee.“If there were,” he replied, “I wouldn’t tell you.”As you might surmise, the No. 1 reason to expand would be to hold a conference football title game and be on equal footing with other leagues in regard to the CFP.
www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20150723/GZ02/150729694
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 12:01:17 GMT -8
The feelings of a blogger tied to West Virginia regarding expansion candidates isn't all that relevant... but the rest certainly is. You can bet BYU will be bolstered by this, as Gee is LDS and was previously a faculty member there. SDSU ties... Boren went to Yale, Hirshman earned his PhD at Yale. Starr went to George Washington, Hirshman was chief research officer there. Yeah, I'm reaching a bit... I think only a 3-man committee helps SDSU. Hirshman only has to convince two people about SDSU's legitimacy as a candidate for expansion.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 24, 2015 12:03:14 GMT -8
BIG XII forms Expansion CommitteeWell, Gee is on the Big 12’s expansion committee. And get this: There are only three members. When reached via Big 12 Associate Commissioner Bob Burda, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said those on the “Composition Committee” are Gee, Boren and Baylor University President Ken Starr. That’s it. 3-Member Committee 1. Gordon Gee - West Virginia University President 2. David Boren - Oklahoma University President 3. Ken Starr - Baylor University President Possible candidates for expansion include BYU, Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Houston and Memphis. I asked Gee, though, if there are any serious contenders currently before the committee.“If there were,” he replied, “I wouldn’t tell you.”As you might surmise, the No. 1 reason to expand would be to hold a conference football title game and be on equal footing with other leagues in regard to the CFP.
www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20150723/GZ02/150729694 As anyone can see--with yet another glaring SDSU omission--Sterky is doing a "bang-up" job, of raising SDSU's profile. Perhaps someday we'll reach the status of that powerhouse, Colorado State. Just keep pushing that Rock, Sisyphus, Jr.
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Post by hoobs on Jul 24, 2015 13:01:37 GMT -8
BIG XII forms Expansion CommitteeWell, Gee is on the Big 12’s expansion committee. And get this: There are only three members. When reached via Big 12 Associate Commissioner Bob Burda, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said those on the “Composition Committee” are Gee, Boren and Baylor University President Ken Starr. That’s it. 3-Member Committee 1. Gordon Gee - West Virginia University President 2. David Boren - Oklahoma University President 3. Ken Starr - Baylor University President Possible candidates for expansion include BYU, Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Houston and Memphis. I asked Gee, though, if there are any serious contenders currently before the committee.“If there were,” he replied, “I wouldn’t tell you.”As you might surmise, the No. 1 reason to expand would be to hold a conference football title game and be on equal footing with other leagues in regard to the CFP.
www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20150723/GZ02/150729694 As anyone can see--with yet another glaring SDSU omission--Sterky is doing a "bang-up" job, of raising SDSU's profile. Perhaps someday we'll reach the status of that powerhouse, Colorado State. Just keep pushing that Rock, Sisyphus, Jr. Seriously? Come on. Hirshman (or Sterk, but really it's the Univ. President, not AD, who leads these issues) having "failed" to win over some random blogger affiliated with West Virginia is emblematic of exactly diddly & squat. No matter how much you want to see tangible proof of what SDSU leadership is doing with regards to its status as a P5 expansion target... you ain't gonna see it unless you are in a leadership role at of one of the P5 schools. Exactly as it should be.
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Post by standiego on Jul 24, 2015 13:13:10 GMT -8
Would make sense to have an expansion group IF they have the need to expand . Any chance the WVU President will join the group that is going to Vegas for the Vegas Invitational Basketball Tournament around Thanksgiving . Both WVU and SDSU are participants .
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Post by aztecfan1 on Jul 24, 2015 13:23:51 GMT -8
As anyone can see--with yet another glaring SDSU omission--Sterky is doing a "bang-up" job, of raising SDSU's profile. Perhaps someday we'll reach the status of that powerhouse, Colorado State. Just keep pushing that Rock, Sisyphus, Jr. Seriously? Come on. Hirshman (or Sterk, but really it's the Univ. President, not AD, who leads these issues) having "failed" to win over some random blogger affiliated with West Virginia is emblematic of exactly diddly & squat. No matter how much you want to see tangible proof of what SDSU leadership is doing with regards to its status as a P5 expansion target... you ain't gonna see it unless you are in a leadership role at of one of the P5 schools. Exactly as it should be. Good job of clarifying for the non researchers and viscerally negative who post here.
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Post by 94sdsu on Jul 24, 2015 13:32:02 GMT -8
Unfortunately, SDSU is so far removed geographically from the Big 12, we make no sense, not even dollar and cents. They only took UWV as they were in survival mode. Which if they're forced into again due to the other conferences expanding and taking their teams, then maybe we'll get picked up. But I just don't see it happening.
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Post by standiego on Jul 24, 2015 13:51:09 GMT -8
would guess The primary focus for the quality teams is to get into the playoffs . Do that and even get into the final game changes a lot of things for the B12 . The expansion group is most likely a just in case .
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Post by myownwords on Jul 24, 2015 14:11:11 GMT -8
As anyone can see--with yet another glaring SDSU omission--Sterky is doing a "bang-up" job, of raising SDSU's profile. Perhaps someday we'll reach the status of that powerhouse, Colorado State. Just keep pushing that Rock, Sisyphus, Jr. Seriously? Come on. Hirshman (or Sterk, but really it's the Univ. President, not AD, who leads these issues) having "failed" to win over some random blogger affiliated with West Virginia is emblematic of exactly diddly & squat. No matter how much you want to see tangible proof of what SDSU leadership is doing with regards to its status as a P5 expansion target... you ain't gonna see it unless you are in a leadership role at of one of the P5 schools. Exactly as it should be. Sort of "pick your poison" I guess.
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Post by SD Johnny on Jul 25, 2015 9:53:48 GMT -8
BIG XII forms Expansion CommitteeWell, Gee is on the Big 12’s expansion committee. And get this: There are only three members. When reached via Big 12 Associate Commissioner Bob Burda, Big 12 Commissioner Bob Bowlsby said those on the “Composition Committee” are Gee, Boren and Baylor University President Ken Starr. That’s it. 3-Member Committee 1. Gordon Gee - West Virginia University President 2. David Boren - Oklahoma University President 3. Ken Starr - Baylor University President Possible candidates for expansion include BYU, Boise State, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado State, Houston and Memphis. I asked Gee, though, if there are any serious contenders currently before the committee.“If there were,” he replied, “I wouldn’t tell you.”As you might surmise, the No. 1 reason to expand would be to hold a conference football title game and be on equal footing with other leagues in regard to the CFP.
www.wvgazettemail.com/article/20150723/GZ02/150729694 Stan, please review the link above and get ready to enjoy lots more expansion talk.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jul 25, 2015 10:18:34 GMT -8
Unfortunately, SDSU is so far removed geographically from the Big 12, we make no sense, not even dollar and cents. They only took UWV as they were in survival mode. Which if they're forced into again due to the other conferences expanding and taking their teams, then maybe we'll get picked up. But I just don't see it happening. Not true. They took WVU due to its location and inclusion in the Pittsburgh TV and recruiting markets; and their tradition of winning in football & basketball. SDSU makes financial sense if the BIG XII has the intention of forming a BIG XII Network. Particularly in light of the automatic TV $ distribution written in the TV contract that new members would get. With the addition of BIG XII Network money from our #29 DMA, bowl $ & NCAA BB $ we would add a significant amount of money to the BIG XII payout.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 25, 2015 15:50:04 GMT -8
As anyone can see--with yet another glaring SDSU omission--Sterky is doing a "bang-up" job, of raising SDSU's profile. Perhaps someday we'll reach the status of that powerhouse, Colorado State. Just keep pushing that Rock, Sisyphus, Jr. Seriously? Come on. Hirshman (or Sterk, but really it's the Univ. President, not AD, who leads these issues) having "failed" to win over some random blogger affiliated with West Virginia is emblematic of exactly diddly & squat. No matter how much you want to see tangible proof of what SDSU leadership is doing with regards to its status as a P5 expansion target... you ain't gonna see it unless you are in a leadership role at of one of the P5 schools. Exactly as it should be. Alas, that is your choice to believe in Fairy Tales. These matters always have a way of leaking to the press. Beyond our Pretenders' absolute and copious silence---especially compared to other programs, within and without the Big 12---our supposed "conversations" with the upper tiered programs would seem to make the CIA proud. Never, NEVER are there any leaks about our imagined "movements". And I ask myself, are these two clowns REALLY that good? Or is it a secret, about which, nobody gives a damn? Or, since we never hear them cogently speak about it, these secret meetings and discussions are, well, imaginary?
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 25, 2015 16:15:12 GMT -8
Every time I read one of these articles from Midwestern or East Coast writers there is a definite bias.Yet in SanDiego we read about it and it starts a discussion. I wonder why we don't see our San Diego writers doing more to promote SDSU as a good expansion partner for a P5 Conference ? It couldn't hurt.
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Post by myownwords on Jul 25, 2015 16:33:41 GMT -8
Every time I read one of these articles from Midwestern or East Coast writers there is a definite bias.Yet in SanDiego we read about it and it starts a discussion. I wonder why we don't see our San Diego writers doing more to promote SDSU as a good expansion partner for a P5 Conference ? It couldn't hurt. I've wondered, and "stressed" over that for years. The press, as well as, our political and civic leaders never promote, or create "buzz" about SDSU, other than the obligatory "news". But then, neither do our otiose leaders at SDSU. So if Sterk, Hirshman and Rocky cannot create a buzz, or promote with something other than random and vacuous statements, why should the others put any effort into it?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 25, 2015 20:00:33 GMT -8
SDSU alums like Canepa are masochists.
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Post by MontezumaPhil on Jul 26, 2015 8:57:12 GMT -8
Seriously? Come on. Hirshman (or Sterk, but really it's the Univ. President, not AD, who leads these issues) having "failed" to win over some random blogger affiliated with West Virginia is emblematic of exactly diddly & squat. No matter how much you want to see tangible proof of what SDSU leadership is doing with regards to its status as a P5 expansion target... you ain't gonna see it unless you are in a leadership role at of one of the P5 schools. Exactly as it should be. Alas, that is your choice to believe in Fairy Tales. These matters always have a way of leaking to the press. Beyond our Pretenders' absolute and copious silence---especially compared to other programs, within and without the Big 12---our supposed "conversations" with the upper tiered programs would seem to make the CIA proud. Never, NEVER are there any leaks about our imagined "movements". And I ask myself, are these two clowns REALLY that good? Or is it a secret, about which, nobody gives a damn? Or, since we never hear them cogently speak about it, these secret meetings and discussions are, well, imaginary? Can't agree here, MOW. No one should believe that the Big 12 isn't already far along in the expansion vetting process, because for economic reasons--for the sake of its survival-- it has to be. It can't survive at ten. There will be additions by the end of the decade, with the only question being who? But consider: how many substantive rumors have you heard regarding any schools joining the league? It isn't just SDSU under a cone of silence, it's everybody. The usual suspects get listed by know-nothing webloggers, but the professional press have no solid scoops. You can bet the B12 is looking hard at, and talking with, the Florida schools, BYU, maybe Houston, and others. But I've neither heard nor read any credible reports to that effect. These men are apparently quite good at keeping stuff quiet when they really want to. Recall how the Utah thing sneaked up on us several years ago. All things being equal, if you were in Sterk's position, what would you be doing every day? You would be trying to save the major-college status of your athletic program by getting your football team into a real conference that would assure its survival. You would know that the Mtn West is no long-term solution to anything. You would be trying to save your own job. So why think Sterk is not behaving the same way you would? Surely not because he's doing a good job at stifling leaks. The assumption here is that Sterk and Hirshman are talking often with their colleagues in the B12, that they have a fairly well-developed stadium plan in their files, and that they are coordinating with other western schools, most likely BSU, UNLV and/or BYU, on a unified pitch that would add a lot of TV homes and scheduling flexibility to a conference badly in need of them. I for one find the quiet to be somewhat reassuring. The more people talk, the less they do.
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Post by jdaztec on Jul 26, 2015 9:15:13 GMT -8
Phil, you make a lot of sense. I hope you are right.
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