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Post by pbbroker on Jul 6, 2015 13:18:59 GMT -8
July 6, 2015
SAN DIEGO - San Diego State men’s basketball . . . . . . and seventh straight with at least 23 victories.
GoAztecs.comwww.goaztecs.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/070615aaa.htmlI have removed almost all of the quoted material since the link allows readers to go directly to the source. Let's remember that when there is a URL that allows easy access to a piece, it is unnecessary to post more than a brief portion of the copyrighted material. This is per the fair use doctrine. When a piece is of interest but not available to the general public (e.g., a subscription site), it is okay to summarize the main points of that piece and even selected verbatim quotes. However, be careful not to quote more than a relatively small percentage of the copyrighted piece. WLR
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 6, 2015 14:59:09 GMT -8
Maybe basketball and football should swap venues?  |
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Post by McQuervo on Jul 6, 2015 15:01:55 GMT -8
Maybe Football needs to start closing some of the big games with a Victory?
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Post by tttrojan4life on Jul 6, 2015 15:51:15 GMT -8
UCLA's attendance is awful. No support from students.
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Post by docmm on Jul 6, 2015 16:17:22 GMT -8
And USC is outside of the top 100 with 4370. I can see why players would want to go there. For all the crap we get as a conference, we're ahead of the Pac 12 and have 3 teams in the top 27, #16 New Mexico and #22 UNLV and 4 in the top 50, Utah State #43.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 16:18:29 GMT -8
The thing is, if the Arena was larger, SDSU Hoops would probably draw 15K plus.
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Post by AztecBill on Jul 6, 2015 16:22:27 GMT -8
July 6, 2015 SAN DIEGO - San Diego State men’s basketball led all California Division I schools in average home attendance in 2014-15 for the fifth consecutive season. The Aztecs averaged a sellout, or 12,414 fans, for their 17 home dates at Viejas Arena, which ranked 27th nationally. SDSU’s national ranking marks the third straight season it has landed at the spot and matches a school-record high. The Aztecs are the only school from the state of California in top 50 nationally and outdistanced their next closest state competitor, California, by 27 spots. The Golden Bears find themselves looking up at San Diego State from their perch at No. 54 after averaging 8,099 fans for their 18 home games. Third in the state is UCLA at No. 60 with their 7,711 average (17 home games). SDSU is tops in average home attendance in a state that is home to 24 Division I programs. Since topping out at 12,414 the last three seasons, the Aztecs have seen their average home attendance figure rise every season starting with 2008-09 when it drew 7,023 fans (No. 76 nationally). In 2009-10, the number moved to 7,227 (No. 72), then to 11,668 in 2010-11 (No. 30) and finally 12,096 (No. 29) in 2011-12, before drawing sold-out crowds in 2012-13, 2013-14 and 2014-15. Moving into the upcoming 2015-16 campaign, San Diego State has played in front of a home sellout 55 straight times, including 48 in a row covering the last three seasons. Since the start of the 2010-11 season, SDSU has played in front of a full house at Viejas Arena 72 out of 82 games. The Aztecs will return their leading scorer and rebounder in Winston Shepard and three of its top five scorers from last year (Shepard, Trey Kell and Malik Pope). SDSU will also welcome back four of its top six three-point threats (Matt Shrigley, Pope, Shepard and Kell) and five of its top seven rebounders (Shepard, Skylar Spencer, Angelo Chol, Kell, Pope), which does not include the 6-7, 210-pound Zylan Cheatham, who will be a redshirt freshman and arrived on campus last summer as part of a consensus top-15 recruiting class. Joining them will be incoming four-star freshman Jeremy Hemsley, who was the 2015 Los Angeles Times Player of the Year and the 74th-ranked player on the Rivals 150. The Aztecs, who return three starters, will enter the upcoming campaign fresh off their sixth straight NCAA tournament berth. SDSU is one of eight schools nationally to have reached the NCAAs six years in a row and one of nine programs in America to reach the Round of 32 three straight seasons. Overall, San Diego State finished 2014-15 with a 27-9 record (14-4 Mountain West), its 10th consecutive 20-win campaign and seventh straight with at least 23 victories. GoAztecs.com www.goaztecs.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/070615aaa.htmlThe Stat I love about the Aztecs is 5 straight years in the top half of the NCAA seeding. The teams we share that with are much more impressive than teams sharing the other stats. |
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Post by aardvark on Jul 6, 2015 18:47:40 GMT -8
The thing is, if the Arena was larger, SDSU Hoops would probably draw 15K plus. And if Duke had a larger arena, they could draw more as well. It is what it is (doing my best AJ Smith imitation). Or, we could be like UCLA, and spend over $150 mil to add about 1,000 seats. |
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Post by rolf tomato on Jul 6, 2015 20:09:39 GMT -8
The thing is, if the Arena was larger, SDSU Hoops would probably draw 15K plus. I actually think Viejas is the perfect size. I think if they had a bigger arena, the overall attendance would be less. I know it sounds stupid to say that, but ... Sure, there would be some games that would still sell out, but there are plenty of games now that are technically sell-outs, but there's only about 8K actual butt's-in-the-seats. Bigger isn't always better. |
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Post by sdsudevil on Jul 6, 2015 21:20:52 GMT -8
The thing is, if the Arena was larger, SDSU Hoops would probably draw 15K plus. I actually think Viejas is the perfect size. I think if they had a bigger arena, the overall attendance would be less. I know it sounds stupid to say that, but ... Sure, there would be some games that would still sell out, but there are plenty of games now that are technically sell-outs, but there's only about 8K actual butt's-in-the-seats. Bigger isn't always better. Completely agree, Viejas isn't a small arena by any stretch of the imagination, and the impact our crowd makes is because we are on top of the court, and close together. Seeing as how we see the terribleness of playing in Qualcomm (I know, it's an exaggerated comparison, but still), I think it really brings out the contrast of what happens in a near perfect size arena. And yes, sell-outs doesn't mean a packed house, no need to increase just for a couple big games a season, at the cost of a less dense crowd for the lesser games. |
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Post by AzTex on Jul 6, 2015 21:32:29 GMT -8
I actually think Viejas is the perfect size. I think if they had a bigger arena, the overall attendance would be less. I know it sounds stupid to say that, but ... Sure, there would be some games that would still sell out, but there are plenty of games now that are technically sell-outs, but there's only about 8K actual butt's-in-the-seats. Bigger isn't always better. Completely agree, Viejas isn't a small arena by any stretch of the imagination, and the impact our crowd makes is because we are on top of the court, and close together. Seeing as how we see the terribleness of playing in Qualcomm ( I know, it's an exaggerated comparison, but still), I think it really brings out the contrast of what happens in a near perfect size arena. And yes, sell-outs doesn't mean a packed house, no need to increase just for a couple big games a season, at the cost of a less dense crowd for the lesser games. No, it is not an exaggerated comparison. It is spot on. The crowd's distance from the court/field and the density of the crowd around the court/field amplifies the emotion and atmosphere of the games. I keep bringing up that Aztec Bowl was such a great place to watch a football game in because of the pitch of the seats and the closeness to the field. Viejas is built with that same seat pitch. I just hope the new on campus, or near campus, stadium is designed with that in mind. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Jul 6, 2015 21:53:40 GMT -8
If you have not read the edited thread intro, please do so. There is some administrative information, admittedly not new, which is important.
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Post by sdsuballer on Jul 6, 2015 22:27:03 GMT -8
I actually think Viejas is the perfect size. I think if they had a bigger arena, the overall attendance would be less. I know it sounds stupid to say that, but ... Sure, there would be some games that would still sell out, but there are plenty of games now that are technically sell-outs, but there's only about 8K actual butt's-in-the-seats. Bigger isn't always better. Completely agree, Viejas isn't a small arena by any stretch of the imagination, and the impact our crowd makes is because we are on top of the court, and close together. Seeing as how we see the terribleness of playing in Qualcomm (I know, it's an exaggerated comparison, but still), I think it really brings out the contrast of what happens in a near perfect size arena. And yes, sell-outs doesn't mean a packed house, no need to increase just for a couple big games a season, at the cost of a less dense crowd for the lesser games. Spot on... I love Viejas because there is "no bad seats" in the arena and when the place gets rolling you can feel the vibration on the court. Every seat in the house was designed with the fan in mind.. No obstructed seats since the arena is a perfect bowl shape. The slope of the Arena was made for the crowd to be on top of the players and the sound bounces off the court... I get goose bumps of when Billy White almost brought down the house with his power dunk (NIT game St Marys) or when New Mexico melted like butter with the 1-3-1 zone. In those two games the opposing coaches called multiple time outs and every time they would huddle, the teams would inch closer to half court. |
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Post by docmm on Jul 7, 2015 5:01:12 GMT -8
Completely agree, Viejas isn't a small arena by any stretch of the imagination, and the impact our crowd makes is because we are on top of the court, and close together. Seeing as how we see the terribleness of playing in Qualcomm (I know, it's an exaggerated comparison, but still), I think it really brings out the contrast of what happens in a near perfect size arena. And yes, sell-outs doesn't mean a packed house, no need to increase just for a couple big games a season, at the cost of a less dense crowd for the lesser games. Spot on... I love Viejas because there is "no bad seats" in the arena and when the place gets rolling you can feel the vibration on the court. Every seat in the house was designed with the fan in mind.. No obstructed seats since the arena is a perfect bowl shape. The slope of the Arena was made for the crowd to be on top of the players and the sound bounces off the court... I get goose bumps of when Billy White almost brought down the house with his power dunk (NIT game St Marys) or when New Mexico melted like butter with the 1-3-1 zone. In those two games the opposing coaches called multiple time outs and every time they would huddle, the teams would inch closer to half court. I'm 66 years old and like most of you, have been a rabid sports fan all my life. But watching New Mexico lose that lead while the crowd got louder and louder and then finally, crazy louder, was one of my all time sports moments. When we finally went ahead I thought the top of my head would literally pop off from screaming so loud. Rushing the floor, screaming like a student cemented the complete euphoria of the last 15 minutes of that game. DAMN, I love me some Aztecs. Can't WAIT!!!!!! |
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Post by obboy13 on Jul 7, 2015 7:58:10 GMT -8
Funny how winning and higher attendance go hand in hand. Are you listening Rocky?
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Post by AccessBowlTime on Jul 7, 2015 8:14:37 GMT -8
UCLA's attendance is awful. No support from students. Yeah. Kinda like football at SDSU but UCLA students don't have a non-closing team of the magnitude referenced by McQ to use as an excuse. |
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Post by standiego on Jul 7, 2015 8:49:30 GMT -8
Do not think a facility that would allow us to host NCAA regionals would hurt and still could draw a sell out enthusiastic crowd.
even though we out draw UCLA , they still do a good job of recruiting
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Post by Old School on Jul 7, 2015 9:04:53 GMT -8
With the Chargers leaving, we'll be the only game left in town.
Oldie Out
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Post by vision on Jul 7, 2015 9:06:59 GMT -8
great stat. We knew it, but nice to see it published
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Post by aardvark on Jul 7, 2015 9:29:58 GMT -8
Completely agree, Viejas isn't a small arena by any stretch of the imagination, and the impact our crowd makes is because we are on top of the court, and close together. Seeing as how we see the terribleness of playing in Qualcomm ( I know, it's an exaggerated comparison, but still), I think it really brings out the contrast of what happens in a near perfect size arena. And yes, sell-outs doesn't mean a packed house, no need to increase just for a couple big games a season, at the cost of a less dense crowd for the lesser games. No, it is not an exaggerated comparison. It is spot on. The crowd's distance from the court/field and the density of the crowd around the court/field amplifies the emotion and atmosphere of the games. I keep bringing up that Aztec Bowl was such a great place to watch a football game in because of the pitch of the seats and the closeness to the field. Viejas is built with that same seat pitch. I just hope the new on campus, or near campus, stadium is designed with that in mind. Isn't Viejas built with the same pitch as Aztec Bowl due to the fact they are IN Aztec Bowl? Not disagreeing with you, but I thought that was part of the idea of building the arena in that location. And I completely agree with you in that any new stadium (if built) should have that same pitch so the fans can be right on top of the action. Might make for a REALLY steep upper deck though. |
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