Post by HighNTight on Jul 5, 2015 11:18:51 GMT -8
I thought I'd share what an Aztec fan on another board posted:
www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/topic/60075-big-12-expansion/&do=findComment&comment=1701483
MORE WISDOM FROM TWITTER AND THE REALIGNMENT BOARD. TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
Note: if this appears in whole or part anywhere on any of the realignment posts please erase this post. Or pm me and I will do it, thanks.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
First, B10 perceptions, the B12 (as was said April 17th) is not stable….not a shocker with Boren’s recent statements in the background
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
But the B10 does not believe the B12 will get stable….it is almost impossible….there is only 1 route to B12 stability.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
The pathway toward stability for B12 is to expand to 12 - big markets and large schools 1st importance - fan bases size and academics - 2nd
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
2nd step toward stability is the creation of the B12N. Expansion won’t create stability alone.This why Boren brought up LHN being a failure.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Tonight I’m not going to waste time discussing the high value of a Conf Net - either believe in it or not at this point-Boren is a believer.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Before I get into what the B1G believes what they have to do to acquire OU/KU years out from now….lets 1st discuss B12 expansion
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 perception of B12 expansion is it is going to happen period.Sooner rather than later.High probability of next year-ready 2017 FB season
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Now this is where it gets very interesting.B10 perception(which could be wrong of course)is coming from this at a different angle than most.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Because of B12 situation with their contracts -with different factions being for/against expansion -11/12 will be a compromise choice.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Especially…..now get this…..especially between ESPN & FOX. According to “Big Ten Man” there is no way in hell both 11/12 come from the East.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN will not allow it..not happening.ESPN would be willing to “support” 1 new Eastern B12 school.but not 2.Big Ten Man very strong on this
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN does not want FOX to increase their P5 stock in the Eastern portion of the United States. FOX has some stock in WVU-RUT-UMD-PSU…
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN wants to limit “FOX schools/content” in the East,even if its shared content in some form/manner with ESPN.ESPN will stop 2 Eastern adds
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So what does it mean? Look for ESPN to Champion Cincinnati over UCF. Look for FOX to champion UCF over Cincinnati...FOX already in Ohio
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
FOX is already in state of Ohio in P5 content…so ESPN would have no problem a CINCY addition to B12. FOX wants to get into Florida with UCF.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
“B10 Man” says B10 perception is FOX will get their 1st choice & UCF will become #11 for the B12 & ESPN and Texas will choose #12-compromise
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 perception UT will try to let out a little steam in pot of boiling water by finally agreeing to B12 expansion. But UT/ESPN choose 12.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Keep this in mind before I pass along what the B10 perception is on what UT/ESPN will do with 12. Texas is not choosing 12 based upon a B12N
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Texas and ESPN will not throw in LHN in the dumpster…they may change it a bit if they bolt to ACC/PAC in future…but not put LHN in dumpster.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
According to B10 perceptions they believe Houston or BYU will be 12. B10 at this moment says Houston has inside track to 12. Why?
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
For 1 reason:Because of internal state politics…UT politicians can gain GIANT IOU’s in the state legislature if it deals in Houston at B12.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
According to B10 perception its wildly known the SECN/TAMU has gutted the B12 from the Houston/ Metro…this is also a BIG + for UH inception.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN will fight for Houston….but ESPN is also close with BYU….but Texas politics make UH a slight favorite for 12….less headache.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
I personally believe UH addition would be a mistake.. just passing along B10 perceptions.UT is only looking to let steam out of boiling pot.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
UT is not looking to create B12N…not going to happen. UH fulfills what UT/ESPN is looking at out West…
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN not concern with FOX gaining “stock” in Houston....as they would be in FOX gaining "stock" in Memphis-Tulane-New Orleans-ect
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So now what happens?….with an expanded B12 to 12 schools (UCF+Houston or BYU) but without a B12N? Instability in B12 is what happens
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 is already talking with Kansas & Oklahoma….every once in a while….these discussions are happening. SEC is talking with OU all-the-time!
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
This is the reality. B10 has a “long road to hoe” in acquiring KU/OU but it has taken first steps.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 believes Boren’s comments about LHN failure - mocking UT on not giving it up….is a message from OU to UT to go ahead and bolt-were fine.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
It’s almost if…from a B10 perception….OU is telling UT nothing will ever again be cool between us b/c we want different environments.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So what do we have from a Big 10 perspective? 1)Big 12 will expand next year. 2)Big 12 will expand with UCF/Houston (or BYU)
Daniel Freer @dwfreer
@chiucfgal @flugempire Wonder if U Houston because of recruiting? Actually better choice than Memphis
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
3)Big 12 can’t create B12N (Texas-LHN)...even with additional markets. 4)No sugar daddy to create/support B12N without Texas content
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
8)B12 will stay P5 even if it implodes w/o KU/OU or even UT. Why? It has to do with Autonomy rules and other stuff-Tomorrow explanation
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Most common question I'm getting..why UCF + Houston or BYU? I will do a better job tomorrow in explaining what was told B10 perspective.
www.mwcboard.com/index.php?/topic/60075-big-12-expansion/&do=findComment&comment=1701483
MORE WISDOM FROM TWITTER AND THE REALIGNMENT BOARD. TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
Note: if this appears in whole or part anywhere on any of the realignment posts please erase this post. Or pm me and I will do it, thanks.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
First, B10 perceptions, the B12 (as was said April 17th) is not stable….not a shocker with Boren’s recent statements in the background
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
But the B10 does not believe the B12 will get stable….it is almost impossible….there is only 1 route to B12 stability.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
The pathway toward stability for B12 is to expand to 12 - big markets and large schools 1st importance - fan bases size and academics - 2nd
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
2nd step toward stability is the creation of the B12N. Expansion won’t create stability alone.This why Boren brought up LHN being a failure.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Tonight I’m not going to waste time discussing the high value of a Conf Net - either believe in it or not at this point-Boren is a believer.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Before I get into what the B1G believes what they have to do to acquire OU/KU years out from now….lets 1st discuss B12 expansion
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 perception of B12 expansion is it is going to happen period.Sooner rather than later.High probability of next year-ready 2017 FB season
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Now this is where it gets very interesting.B10 perception(which could be wrong of course)is coming from this at a different angle than most.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Because of B12 situation with their contracts -with different factions being for/against expansion -11/12 will be a compromise choice.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Especially…..now get this…..especially between ESPN & FOX. According to “Big Ten Man” there is no way in hell both 11/12 come from the East.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN will not allow it..not happening.ESPN would be willing to “support” 1 new Eastern B12 school.but not 2.Big Ten Man very strong on this
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN does not want FOX to increase their P5 stock in the Eastern portion of the United States. FOX has some stock in WVU-RUT-UMD-PSU…
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN wants to limit “FOX schools/content” in the East,even if its shared content in some form/manner with ESPN.ESPN will stop 2 Eastern adds
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So what does it mean? Look for ESPN to Champion Cincinnati over UCF. Look for FOX to champion UCF over Cincinnati...FOX already in Ohio
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
FOX is already in state of Ohio in P5 content…so ESPN would have no problem a CINCY addition to B12. FOX wants to get into Florida with UCF.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
“B10 Man” says B10 perception is FOX will get their 1st choice & UCF will become #11 for the B12 & ESPN and Texas will choose #12-compromise
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 perception UT will try to let out a little steam in pot of boiling water by finally agreeing to B12 expansion. But UT/ESPN choose 12.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Keep this in mind before I pass along what the B10 perception is on what UT/ESPN will do with 12. Texas is not choosing 12 based upon a B12N
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Texas and ESPN will not throw in LHN in the dumpster…they may change it a bit if they bolt to ACC/PAC in future…but not put LHN in dumpster.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
According to B10 perceptions they believe Houston or BYU will be 12. B10 at this moment says Houston has inside track to 12. Why?
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
For 1 reason:Because of internal state politics…UT politicians can gain GIANT IOU’s in the state legislature if it deals in Houston at B12.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
According to B10 perception its wildly known the SECN/TAMU has gutted the B12 from the Houston/ Metro…this is also a BIG + for UH inception.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN will fight for Houston….but ESPN is also close with BYU….but Texas politics make UH a slight favorite for 12….less headache.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
I personally believe UH addition would be a mistake.. just passing along B10 perceptions.UT is only looking to let steam out of boiling pot.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
UT is not looking to create B12N…not going to happen. UH fulfills what UT/ESPN is looking at out West…
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
ESPN not concern with FOX gaining “stock” in Houston....as they would be in FOX gaining "stock" in Memphis-Tulane-New Orleans-ect
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So now what happens?….with an expanded B12 to 12 schools (UCF+Houston or BYU) but without a B12N? Instability in B12 is what happens
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 is already talking with Kansas & Oklahoma….every once in a while….these discussions are happening. SEC is talking with OU all-the-time!
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
This is the reality. B10 has a “long road to hoe” in acquiring KU/OU but it has taken first steps.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
B10 believes Boren’s comments about LHN failure - mocking UT on not giving it up….is a message from OU to UT to go ahead and bolt-were fine.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
It’s almost if…from a B10 perception….OU is telling UT nothing will ever again be cool between us b/c we want different environments.
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
So what do we have from a Big 10 perspective? 1)Big 12 will expand next year. 2)Big 12 will expand with UCF/Houston (or BYU)
Daniel Freer @dwfreer
@chiucfgal @flugempire Wonder if U Houston because of recruiting? Actually better choice than Memphis
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
3)Big 12 can’t create B12N (Texas-LHN)...even with additional markets. 4)No sugar daddy to create/support B12N without Texas content
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
8)B12 will stay P5 even if it implodes w/o KU/OU or even UT. Why? It has to do with Autonomy rules and other stuff-Tomorrow explanation
Greg Flugaur @flugempire
Most common question I'm getting..why UCF + Houston or BYU? I will do a better job tomorrow in explaining what was told B10 perspective.