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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 27, 2015 19:47:57 GMT -8
SDSU joins Louisville, Michigan State and Wisconsin as the only four programs in the country to advance to bowl games each of the last five seasons and play in the six most recent NCAA men's basketball tournaments. Since the beginning of the 2010-11 school year, the Aztecs have posted a 182-60 record (75.2 percent) in football and men's basketball games, the fourth-best record in the country (Ohio State, Louisville and Wisconsin). In addition, San Diego State and Louisville are the only two schools in the country to earn three straight trips to the NCAA baseball tournament, play in each of the last six consecutive NCAA men's basketball tournament appearances and play in bowl games each of the last five seasons. San Diego State Athletics Sets NCAA APR School Record www.goaztecs.com/genrel/052715aab.html
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Post by tonatiuh on May 27, 2015 20:12:29 GMT -8
If, I hear any more complaints about Jim Sterk, and the job he is doing at San Diego State I will just point them to this thread, and tell them to read carefully. This is more important than any accomplishments we gain in any athletic event at any time, and I am very proud of all our Student-Athletes both male and female. Well done Aztecs!
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Post by keepersdsu on May 27, 2015 20:15:38 GMT -8
If, I hear any more complaints about Jim Sterk, and the job he is doing at San Diego State I will just point them to this thread, and tell them to read carefully. This is more important than any accomplishments we gain in any athletic event at any time, and I am very proud of all our Student-Athletes both male and female. Well done Aztecs! +1000
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Post by laaztec on May 27, 2015 21:21:53 GMT -8
And yet no P5 conference wants us. Sweet.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 27, 2015 21:29:54 GMT -8
And still no P5 conference wants us. Sweet. Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently.
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Post by sdsudevil on May 27, 2015 22:00:24 GMT -8
And still no P5 conference wants us. Sweet. Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently. All that, and the accompanying fanbase folks like retired and the rest of the sad sacks to switch from nega-'Tecs to back on the bus, and it could lead to some consideration. As of now, I don't consider us as one, whatsoever. We gotta build.
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Post by Luchador El Guerrero Azteca on May 28, 2015 2:08:49 GMT -8
M.O.W. was right all along...
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Post by sdcoug on May 28, 2015 7:02:01 GMT -8
And still no P5 conference wants us. Sweet. Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently. That's not what gets you into a P5 conference. Moving the needle within their TV footprint does, and we're fine in that department.
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Post by AccessBowlTime on May 28, 2015 7:22:43 GMT -8
And still no P5 conference wants us. Sweet. Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently. Queue the tag team of aztecspearedu and sdcoug for the inevitable opposing view. Edit: Oops. Having said that, I now notice one of the two is already in the house.
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Post by pbaztec17 on May 28, 2015 8:09:08 GMT -8
Go aztecs. Lets add anther year for all again this year!
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 28, 2015 8:11:43 GMT -8
Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently. That's not what gets you into a P5 conference. Moving the needle within their TV footprint does, and we're fine in that department. West Virginia to the BIG XII was a head scratcher then.
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Post by AztecSports95 on May 28, 2015 8:18:21 GMT -8
If, I hear any more complaints about Jim Sterk, and the job he is doing at San Diego State I will just point them to this thread, and tell them to read carefully. This is more important than any accomplishments we gain in any athletic event at any time, and I am very proud of all our Student-Athletes both male and female. Well done Aztecs! THIS!
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Post by sdcoug on May 28, 2015 8:26:26 GMT -8
That's not what gets you into a P5 conference. Moving the needle within their TV footprint does, and we're fine in that department. West Virginia to the BIG XII was a head scratcher then. No it wasn't. See the other thread.
Morgantown is 70+ miles from Pittsburgh, the #22 TV market in the nation, and expands the reach of the B12 to major metro areas (Cleveland/DC all within 200 miles). All prime recruiting territory. In addition, the B12 is located in a area (Midwest - not necessarily Texas) where the population is flat if not in decline, while the east is growing. Adding WVU expands their reach, and thus their footprint.
WVU was added to move the TV needle with ESPN/Fox.
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Post by sdcoug on May 28, 2015 8:27:45 GMT -8
Football drives the bus. Until we make significant noise in that area we won't get a sniff from the P5. Significant noise means beating P5 teams, winning significant bowl games (Las Vegas Bowl, New Years Day Bowl) and cracking the top 25 consistently. Queue the tag team of aztecspearedu and sdcoug for the inevitable opposing view. Edit: Oops. Having said that, I now notice one of the two is already in the house. Opposing view to you? Sorry if it hurts your feelings to have someone with a differing opinion than you.
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Post by standiego on May 28, 2015 8:38:59 GMT -8
As BYU and other G5 schools seem to forget , it does not help if you pray , wish , dream , hope or come up with other schemes , stats ..... if a conference does not want or need to expand it is not going to . B12 will have permission shortly to have same rights as others(with only 10 teams) to get into the football play offs , so no need to expand . Unless a TV network says they will pay more MONEY if it does expand , they are not going to go in that direction . If the money from the networks is the same why would schools want a smaller piece of the pie, right now B12 schools get 1/10 of the conference money , why go to 1/12 , 1/14 or 1/16 ? They will work on a 8 team playoff that gets them more MONEY first.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on May 28, 2015 8:48:47 GMT -8
West Virginia to the BIG XII was a head scratcher then. No it wasn't. See the other thread.
Morgantown is 70+ miles from Pittsburgh, the #22 TV market in the nation, and expands the reach of the B12 to major metro areas (Cleveland/DC all within 200 miles). All prime recruiting territory. In addition, the B12 is located in a area (Midwest - not necessarily Texas) where the population is flat if not in decline, while the east is growing. Adding WVU expands their reach, and thus their footprint.
WVU was added to move the TV needle with ESPN/Fox.
So are you inferring that SDSU can lay claim to Orange County and LA TV markets? To an extent I suppose that is true but we mainly own the San Diego County DMA. I would think Pitt owns the Pittsburgh market and they suck even though they are in the ACC. If Pittsburgh is so great it sure doesn't seem to help the Panthers. They do share a pro stadium with the Steelers so that is a big negative just as it is for the Aztecs. IMO SDSU is superior in almost every category when compared to WVU. However, as I have said, they have had some football/basketball success and have good attendance. They also have a great game day environment with their own stadium; something both SDSU and Pitt don't have. I do agree that the talking heads in Bristol made the final decision There seems to be many parallels between Pitt and SDSU. Similar market size. Share an NFL stadium. Have to compete with a pro sports team. Have to compete with bigger NCAA FB programs (Pitt vs. Ohio State/Penn State - B1G; SDSU vs USC/UCLA - PAC 12). Both are land locked campuses. Both built basketball facilities on their on campus football stadiums. Seems we can learn much from studying Pitt.
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Post by sdcoug on May 28, 2015 8:55:53 GMT -8
As BYU and other G5 schools seem to forget , it does not help if you pray , wish , dream , hope or come up with other schemes , stats ..... if a conference does not want or need to expand it is not going to . B12 will have permission shortly to have same rights as others(with only 10 teams) to get into the football play offs , so no need to expand . Unless a TV network says they will pay more MONEY if it does expand , they are not going to go in that direction . If the money from the networks is the same why would schools want a smaller piece of the pie, right now B12 schools get 1/10 of the conference money , why go to 1/12 , 1/14 or 1/16 ? They will work on a 8 team playoff that gets them more MONEY first. That's what they look at creating a more attractive package overall, which is done primarily by a) adding inventory (MORE GAMES); and b) adding significant reach (large markets). If you add 4-6 teams you're adding 30-45 more football games to your TV package, and increasing your ratings/share if going into the right markets.
No one is or has ever expanded based on CURRENT revenues; it's based on FUTURE revenues, and any broadcast network would consider renegotiating a contract if the package/offer is significantly improved.
If the B12 does decide to add a championship game (they haven't decided), that alone with force ESPN/FSN to bid on its rights, as it's not part of the current TV contract. If you add that (or even a 4-team conference playoff in a 16-team conference) while increasing inventory AND improving reach and ratings.... They may just come back to the table in a big way.
Plus, from the coaches perspective, they want more exposure nationally. So adding teams in key recruiting areas is worth a slightly smaller payout. You're basically paying for advertising the university. So if they're getting $20MM each now (roughly) & a future 14 or 16 team conference gets you $18MM per but significantly more reach, I think the majority would be in favor.
But no, no one is splitting the current allotment more ways but that's not part of expansion. Improving the contract is.
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Post by aztecmusician on May 28, 2015 9:05:23 GMT -8
I think a couple of National Championships in any sport is about all that is missing from SDSU's resume. After all, even Long Beach and Fresno have some national accolades in their trophy case. Wouldn't that be something if the Baseball team could come through with a groundbreaking win?
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Post by aztecsiggy on May 28, 2015 9:10:17 GMT -8
If, I hear any more complaints about Jim Sterk, and the job he is doing at San Diego State I will just point them to this thread, and tell them to read carefully. This is more important than any accomplishments we gain in any athletic event at any time, and I am very proud of all our Student-Athletes both male and female. Well done Aztecs! +1000 Well done SDSU athletes. I'm proud of your continued accomplishments and I look forward to witnessing more! It's a great time to be an Aztec!
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Post by pbaztec17 on May 28, 2015 9:11:55 GMT -8
No it wasn't. See the other thread.
Morgantown is 70+ miles from Pittsburgh, the #22 TV market in the nation, and expands the reach of the B12 to major metro areas (Cleveland/DC all within 200 miles). All prime recruiting territory. In addition, the B12 is located in a area (Midwest - not necessarily Texas) where the population is flat if not in decline, while the east is growing. Adding WVU expands their reach, and thus their footprint.
WVU was added to move the TV needle with ESPN/Fox.
So are you inferring that SDSU can lay claim to Orange County and LA TV markets? To an extent I suppose that is true but we mainly own the San Diego County DMA. I would think Pitt owns the Pittsburgh market and they suck even though they are in the ACC. If Pittsburgh is so great it sure doesn't seem to help the Panthers. They do share a pro stadium with the Steelers so that is a big negative just as it is for the Aztecs. IMO SDSU is superior in almost every category when compared to WVU. However, as I have said, they have had some football/basketball success and have good attendance. They also have a great game day environment with their own stadium; something both SDSU and Pitt don't have. I do agree that the talking heads in Bristol made the final decision There seems to be many parallels between Pitt and SDSU. Similar market size. Share an NFL stadium. Have to compete with a pro sports team. Have to compete with bigger NCAA FB programs (Pitt vs. Ohio State/Penn State - B1G; SDSU vs USC/UCLA - PAC 12). Both are land locked campuses. Both built basketball facilities on their on campus football stadiums. Seems we can learn much from studying Pitt. That map is rad.
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