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Post by aztecfanatic on May 25, 2015 13:15:20 GMT -8
What is the status of the 4-star wide reciever, Desean Holmes, that signed with us on national signing day. Is he on track to be here when fall practise starts? Or is he a non-qualifier? Thanks in advance for your help.
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Post by originalshow00 on May 25, 2015 13:37:37 GMT -8
Won't find out anything until summer school starts.
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Post by Old School on May 25, 2015 15:42:26 GMT -8
The next Az Hakim?
Oldie Out
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Post by originalshow00 on May 25, 2015 15:57:59 GMT -8
The next Az Hakim? Oldie Out Hope so,Also fired up about Tenzino the four star linebacker. |
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Post by Pasadenaztec on May 26, 2015 3:48:48 GMT -8
The next Az Hakim? Oldie Out Hope so,Also fired up about Tenzino the four star linebacker. Didn't even know we got a 4-star linebacker. |
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Post by vision on May 26, 2015 11:16:42 GMT -8
does a 4-star receiver play immediately for the Aztecs? I mean, can a freshman be better than what we already have on the team with collegiate experience?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 11:31:31 GMT -8
does a 4-star receiver play immediately for the Aztecs? I mean, can a freshman be better than what we already have on the team with collegiate experience? It's an athletic position...so just like RB with Pump, you can have a young guy come in with game breaking speed and agility, maybe not the size, but still have a big impact on the game. If Holmes can make grades and get on campus this fall he'll def get his shot to have an impact year one. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on May 26, 2015 11:34:56 GMT -8
Judging by our receivers last year and who's coming back, I'd say he definitely has a shot to play immediately. Receivers were almost as bad as the quarterbacking last year. So many drops
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Post by sdcoug on May 26, 2015 11:39:19 GMT -8
does a 4-star receiver play immediately for the Aztecs? I mean, can a freshman be better than what we already have on the team with collegiate experience? It's an athletic position...so just like RB with Pump, you can have a young guy come in with game breaking speed and agility, maybe not the size, but still have a big impact on the game. If Holmes can make grades and get on campus this fall he'll def get his shot to have an impact year one. All true, plus add in the fact we have a new position coach so no one has any history in practice to hold them above the others. If he can quality I agree - he easily could start.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 11:41:07 GMT -8
Judging by our receivers last year and who's coming back, I'd say he definitely has a shot to I still think 2013 was the worst I've ever seen, but both 13 and 14 were horrific in terms of drops. |
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Post by sdcoug on May 26, 2015 11:55:52 GMT -8
Judging by our receivers last year and who's coming back, I'd say he definitely has a shot to I still think 2013 was the worst I've ever seen, but both 13 and 14 were horrific in terms of drops. Don't forget another key 2014 "drop" - a certain WR "dropped" the ball OFF the field & got himself suspended for the Poinsettia bowl. That was a moronic move, never mind dropping a few during the season. |
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Post by vision on May 26, 2015 12:26:26 GMT -8
freshman tend to drop as much or more than others. I'd like to see some speed!
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Post by originalshow00 on May 26, 2015 18:00:07 GMT -8
does a 4-star receiver play immediately for the Aztecs? I mean, can a freshman be better than what we already have on the team with collegiate experience? It's an athletic position...so just like RB with Pump, you can have a young guy come in with game breaking speed and agility, maybe not the size, but still have a big impact on the game. If Holmes can make grades and get on campus this fall he'll def get his shot to have an impact year one. No doubt they will have him in summer school if he graduates high school on time if not he must finish high school before August in order to enroll @sdsu. |
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Post by originalshow00 on May 26, 2015 18:05:10 GMT -8
freshman tend to drop as much or more than others. I'd like to see some speed! I read 4.58 on 40 which is not good. |
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Post by Sdsu4life on May 26, 2015 18:45:52 GMT -8
freshman tend to drop as much or more than others. I'd like to see some speed! I read 4.58 on 40 which is not good. LOL 4.58 is very good. Hilarious how confused people are about the 40 time. If a guy runs a legit laser 4.5, that is ELITE speed. Plus, a 4.4 guy isn't necessarily faster than a 4.5-4.6 guy on the field. I've seen 4.7 guys burn 4.3 guys plenty of times. Yes, a 4.58 won't get Mike Mayock slobbering over you at the combine, but a 4.58 will have you as one of the fastest on the field. Plus besides all that, the 40 time means nothing, it measures something that is completely irrelevant to football. |
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Post by originalshow00 on May 26, 2015 18:49:13 GMT -8
I read 4.58 on 40 which is not good. LOL 4.58 is very good. Hilarious how confused people are about the 40 time. If a guy runs a legit laser 4.5, that is ELITE speed. Plus, a 4.4 guy isn't necessarily faster than a 4.5-4.6 guy on the field. I've seen 4.7 guys burn 4.3 guys plenty of times. Yes, a 4.58 won't get Mike Mayock slobbering over you at the combine, but a 4.58 will have you as one of the fastest on the field. Plus besides all that, the 40 time means nothing, it measures something that is completely irrelevant to football. It is break away sideline speed it measures and I would rather see 4.45. |
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Post by robthevol on May 26, 2015 22:22:44 GMT -8
None of this means anything if he is not admitted. When does summer school begin?
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Post by sdcoug on May 26, 2015 22:24:53 GMT -8
LOL 4.58 is very good. Hilarious how confused people are about the 40 time. If a guy runs a legit laser 4.5, that is ELITE speed. Plus, a 4.4 guy isn't necessarily faster than a 4.5-4.6 guy on the field. I've seen 4.7 guys burn 4.3 guys plenty of times. Yes, a 4.58 won't get Mike Mayock slobbering over you at the combine, but a 4.58 will have you as one of the fastest on the field. Plus besides all that, the 40 time means nothing, it measures something that is completely irrelevant to football. It is break away sideline speed it measures and I would rather see 4.45. If all things remain equal of course faster is better, but Kelvin Benjamin ran over 4.6 at the combine & was a 1st round pick. There's a difference between track fast & football fast. Plus, where & how was the measurement taken, if indeed accurate?
Ultimately it's about creating separation, which can be done via raw speed, running great routes, having good hands & power off the line, and/or simply understanding the game. It sounds like he may not be lightening fast but is very capable of creating separation.
If UCLA, ASU & Cal all offered I'm sure he's plenty "fast".
Let's just hope he qualifies. Most highly recruited athletes who go to B5 schools tend to have warts of some type, typically academic issues forcing some to back off. Hopefully that's not the case here.
Can't wait until fall camp when all these questions are answered.
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Post by Sdsu4life on May 26, 2015 22:33:20 GMT -8
LOL 4.58 is very good. Hilarious how confused people are about the 40 time. If a guy runs a legit laser 4.5, that is ELITE speed. Plus, a 4.4 guy isn't necessarily faster than a 4.5-4.6 guy on the field. I've seen 4.7 guys burn 4.3 guys plenty of times. Yes, a 4.58 won't get Mike Mayock slobbering over you at the combine, but a 4.58 will have you as one of the fastest on the field. Plus besides all that, the 40 time means nothing, it measures something that is completely irrelevant to football. and I would rather see 4.45. LOL no it doesnt. Well, maybe if the guy was breaking down the sideline naked. Running in gear and in the elements is completely different than standing there in complete control of your environment and running the 40 with nothing but spandex on. That is the only thing that the 40 measures, and since none of those situations ever exist in football, the 40 is completely irrelevant. But besides that, how much of a difference do you think a 4.45 and a 4.55, or even a 4.6 is? It is practically zero. It is a sliver of a difference, and it just so happened if the 4.5 guy farted, he would most likely pass the 4.4 guy. Bystanders truly believe that 4.4's and 4.6's are astronomical differences, and they aren't, and can barely be seen by the naked eye. Can you count a 10th of sec? In a straight race, a 10th of a sec slower is still making a easy tackle, a 4.6 is still tackling a 4.4, Now, in a game, when you see a guy absolutely burn past people, that is not a 4.4 vs a 4.6 or 4.8 or 4.9, that is a 4.4 running past a guy who is going 0.00, or even in the opposite direction. So, a guy getting past another guy has very little to do with top end speed. It has to do with several factors from the runner and several factors from the defender that have nothing to do with speed. That is why Jerry Rice was the best, he was a deceptive runner. His routes made you doubt yourself. All it took was that split second hesitation by a 4.3 CB and a clean route by a 4.7 wr, and he was gone and there was no catching him. 4.3 is no longer faster than a 4.7 when the WR got a 10-15 yard head start from the point of breaking his route and the cb hesitating. The 40 measures you and the opponent side by side running. That never happens in the game. So, to sum that up, you nor anyone else will be able to SEE the difference between a 4.45 running down a sideline or a 4.55 running down the sideline. They are both exceptionally fast. |
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Post by aztecfanatic on May 27, 2015 5:28:50 GMT -8
None of this means anything if he is not admitted. When does summer school begin? This was my immediate reaction. I vaguely remember something about other schools backing off because of his grades; then the rivals guy said something about maybe he would make it in after all. Was just hoping to hear some good off-season news. Hopefully we'll see him in Red and Black soon. |
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